The Danger Has Long Been Known.....

I understand your "sensitivity" to criticism.....based on the wonderful job government schooling, and by extension, you, are doing.




1666187916097.webp

https://imgix.mic.com/mic/20eb874267a80698de84a0a850b84e20fdb19c1c1795a88e14aed8b15a09a0ef.jpg?w=646&fit=max&auto=format,compress
http:// pisa - pisa - oecd www.oecd.xn--org pisa -fz6i/


PISA - PISA - OECD

www.oecd.org › pisa

PISA is the OECD's Programme for International Student Assessment. PISA measures 15-year-olds' ability to use their reading, mathematics and science ...






PISA Test - PISA
Just who in the fudge are you talking to? Is your English so poor that you do not understand that the only thing we were questioning was your false statement about teachers referring kids to doctors for ADHD? The only criticism is that you are wrong on that aspect.
 

SCHOOLS' BACKING OF BEHAVIOR DRUGS COMES ...

View attachment 1188637
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2001/08/19 › schools-backi...




Aug 19, 2001 — Children who take medication for emotional or learning problems in school tend to be labeled ''learning disabled'' under special education laws, ...




As I stated.


Ready to admit you are wrong?
Can teachers prescribe drugs? No. Can teachers recommend drugs to parents so doctors can prescribe them? No.

You are the one who is wrong! You said: 2. Teachers are often the ones who diagnose the child as unruly or inattentive, and send them to psychologist who puts them on ADHD drugs....."

You want reality, here it is:
When parents ask why their kids aren't learning in class, and constantly getting sent out of class to the principal's office for disrupting class, the teacher tells them that the kid is inattentive, won't stay focused on their work and doesn't turn in their homework whether they do it or not. Then the parent self-diagnoses that as ADHD and runs off to their primary care physician or pediatrician who usually knows little to nothing about ADHD, but can make a kickback for prescribing Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta and other drugs. So, they write the prescription and send you the forms to fill out to document that you know he/she is putting the student on the drugs, kicking off the paperwork avalanche that gets the kid labeled as special education, and you buried under more paperwork. Why would any teacher in their right mind want to do that? How do you think I know all of these drug names? Because my two grandsons actually have ADHD and they were taking the same drugs as my students!

You seem to think I disagree with your entire post, and I don't! I think some of the reasoning may be suspect, but I never got past the naked lies being told, blaming teachers for the problem when they are the innocent bystanders.

Your statement is wrong.
 
Just who in the fudge are you talking to? Is your English so poor that you do not understand that the only thing we were questioning was your false statement about teachers referring kids to doctors for ADHD? The only criticism is that you are wrong on that aspect.
I'm speaking to a dunce who won't admit what I proved several times.
 
Can teachers prescribe drugs? No. Can teachers recommend drugs to parents so doctors can prescribe them? No.

You are the one who is wrong! You said: 2. Teachers are often the ones who diagnose the child as unruly or inattentive, and send them to psychologist who puts them on ADHD drugs....."

You want reality, here it is:
When parents ask why their kids aren't learning in class, and constantly getting sent out of class to the principal's office for disrupting class, the teacher tells them that the kid is inattentive, won't stay focused on their work and doesn't turn in their homework whether they do it or not. Then the parent self-diagnoses that as ADHD and runs off to their primary care physician or pediatrician who usually knows little to nothing about ADHD, but can make a kickback for prescribing Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta and other drugs. So, they write the prescription and send you the forms to fill out to document that you know he/she is putting the student on the drugs, kicking off the paperwork avalanche that gets the kid labeled as special education, and you buried under more paperwork. Why would any teacher in their right mind want to do that? How do you think I know all of these drug names? Because my two grandsons actually have ADHD and they were taking the same drugs as my students!

You seem to think I disagree with your entire post, and I don't! I think some of the reasoning may be suspect, but I never got past the naked lies being told, blaming teachers for the problem when they are the innocent bystanders.

Your statement is wrong.
Teachers who can't control their charges refer them to psychologists who put them on psychotropic drugs.


he Psychiatric Peddlers in Your Schools​

1764359717630.webp
Mad In America
https://www.madinamerica.com › 2024/02 › psychiatric-...




Feb 20, 2024 — Educators and parents must equip children with necessary tools to meet the normal problems of childhood that psychiatry attempts to address.
 
I'm not ....

the mental health community was called in by my kids teachers, twice

i sat in a room for a parent/teacher conference twice

The teachers flat out advocated pharmaceuticals twice

YOU FOLKS are the liars

~S~
The mental health community wasn't called in by your school psychologist?

You are calling a retired teacher and school administrator who taught for 21 years, and another veteran teacher of I believe over 20 years, liars?

You may be some bizarre exception, but the federal law is very clear. We are NOT lying. You are misinformed or your school is not in compliance.
 
Teachers who can't control their charges refer them to psychologists who put them on psychotropic drugs.


he Psychiatric Peddlers in Your Schools

View attachment 1188641
Mad In America
https://www.madinamerica.com › 2024/02 › psychiatric-...




Feb 20, 2024 — Educators and parents must equip children with necessary tools to meet the normal problems of childhood that psychiatry attempts to address.
My God, you are the cut and paste queen. Do you ever read the material you post?

Not once do the teacher's recommend drugs. They recommend a doctor test the student toss if they have a learning disability or medical condition that is contributing to the behavior. That is not recommending drugs!
 
The mental health community wasn't called in by your school psychologist?

You are calling a retired teacher and school administrator who taught for 21 years, and another veteran teacher of I believe over 20 years, liars?

You may be some bizarre exception, but the federal law is very clear. We are NOT lying. You are misinformed or your school is not in compliance.
When considering the links that I have provided, you are either mentally incompetent or a liar.

You choose.
 
The mental health community wasn't called in by your school psychologist?

You are calling a retired teacher and school administrator who taught for 21 years, and another veteran teacher of I believe over 20 years, liars?

You may be some bizarre exception, but the federal law is very clear. We are NOT lying. You are misinformed or your school is not in compliance.
the MH community are self serving predators Admiral , they descend on our children IN public schools with any teacher who points out a child with 'behavioral problems' , basically any child that won't sit still

they then contact the parent, who attends parent/teacher conferences ,along with these so called 'mental health professionals' who no more a doctor than i am or you

said 'pro's entire shtick is to push pharma on the kids , who then contact a bona fide doctor to prescribe them

>>>>>THATS THE WAY IT WORKS ADMIRAL<<<<<

~S~
 
My God, you are the cut and paste queen. Do you ever read the material you post?

Not once do the teacher's recommend drugs. They recommend a doctor test the student toss if they have a learning disability or medical condition that is contributing to the behavior. That is not recommending drugs!
Cut and paste?????

You didn’t realize the ignorance you were revealing, did you?

a. You see, one who has been exposed to learning will often see the value of providing points of view from one with status or expertise in the area under discussion. And, in my view, to provide same without my words, adds the impact for which I strive.

b. Citing an authority with an established reputation is better, of course, than citing someone whose credentials are not so lofty. (http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/mla/practical_guide.shtml)

c. Now, here’s where you come in: “A valid objection to this selection of sources may be the type of audience being addressed. Is the ‘pasted selection’ aimed at a specialized or a general audience? Do you find the level ‘over your head’ or is this source too elementary?” http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/research/skill26.htm#LinkReason
 
...and the nation may finally be waking up to the Educator-Psychology Complex;


1. "Millions of Kids Are on ADHD Pills. For Many, It’s the Start of a Drug Cascade.

Powerful psychotropic drugs are often the next step, even though their combined effects in young children haven’t been studied closely. ‘I was living in a body hijacked by the medication.’​



2. Teachers are often the ones who diagnose the child as unruly or inattentive, and send them to psychologist who puts them on ADHD drugs.....


3. Then they need other drugs to help them sleep, and on and on....


4. Then there's this:

There is substantial evidence linking the consumption of psychotropic medications with leading to mania, hostility, violence, and even homicidal ideation yet little is still known regarding the link between psychiatric drugs and acts of senseless violence.
1756818194460.webp
ClinMed International Library
https://clinmedjournals.org › articles › jfmdp › journal-...
https://clinmedjournals.org/article...dence linking,and acts of senseless violence.
https://clinmedjournals.org/article...dence linking,and acts of senseless violence.
https://clinmedjournals.org/article...dence linking,and acts of senseless violence.
https://clinmedjournals.org/article...dence linking,and acts of senseless violence.
How many trans take psychotropic drugs?


The psychology industry is Left Liberal Democrat.https://clinmedjournals.org/article...dence linking,and acts of senseless violence.


5.
At least fourteen recent school shootings were committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. It is important to note the following lists cases where the information about the shooters psychiatric drug use was made public. To give an example, although it is known that James Holmes, suspected perpetrator of the Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooting, was seeing psychiatrist Lynne Fenton, there has been no mention of what psychiatric drugs he may have been taking—though it is highly probably he was taking psychiatric drugs considering he was under a psychiatrist’s “care”. Also note that all these mass shootings didn’t just occur in the United States.

Of these 14, seven were seeing either a psychiatrist (5 of them) or psychologist (2 of them). It is not known whether or not the other half were seeing a psychiatrist, as it has not been published.

1. Huntsville, Alabama – February 5, 2010: 15-year-old Hammad Memon shot and killed another Discover Middle School student Todd Brown. Memon had a history for being treated for ADHD and depression. He was taking the antidepressant Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.” He had been seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist.

2. Kauhajoki, Finland – September 23, 2008: 22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. He was also seeing a psychologist.

3. Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system. He had been seeing a psychiatrist.

4. Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.

5. Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.

6. Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 7 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.

7. Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”. He had previously seen a psychiatrist.

8. Wahluke, Washington – April 10, 2001: Sixteen-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. He had been taking the antidepressant Effexor.

9. El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

10. Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.

11. Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with the stimulant Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.

12. Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold’s medical records remain sealed. Both shooters had been in anger-management classes and had undergone counseling. Harris had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

13. Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.

14. Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending “anger control classes” and was under the care of a psychologist.

Note: Psychiatric Drugs Can Also Cause Severe Withdrawal Symptoms— Violent and Suicidal Thoughts – Watch This 2 Minute Video





There have been 22 international drug regulatory warnings issued on psychiatric drugs causing violence, mania, hostility, aggression, psychosis, and other violent type reactions. These warnings have been issued in the United States, European Union, Japan, United Kingdom, Australia and Canada.

Columbine | CCHR International
What giant story has the mainstream media refused to report on?
What segment of industry is the largest advertiser on television?
You do the math.
RFJ, Jr. wants to remove prescription Big Pharma advertising from television. It cannot happen soon enough for me.
 
Last edited:
When i attended these precanned parent/teacher meetings , it was clear that their diagnosis was nothing more than 'little Jimmy's acting up'.....i did in fact ask for a clinical diagnosis.

The MH community was all about doping up my kids ,with only parental approval.

The same sorts along with their gender bender shtick now have legislated the parent right out of the picture

Folks half way around the globe are noticing.......you'd have to be blind to miss this working within the system

~S~
 
Cut and paste?????

You didn’t realize the ignorance you were revealing, did you?

a. You see, one who has been exposed to learning will often see the value of providing points of view from one with status or expertise in the area under discussion. And, in my view, to provide same without my words, adds the impact for which I strive.

b. Citing an authority with an established reputation is better, of course, than citing someone whose credentials are not so lofty. (http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/mla/practical_guide.shtml)

c. Now, here’s where you come in: “A valid objection to this selection of sources may be the type of audience being addressed. Is the ‘pasted selection’ aimed at a specialized or a general audience? Do you find the level ‘over your head’ or is this source too elementary?” http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/research/skill26.htm#LinkReason
Try reading my post again. What you claimed your source said was not true. Why are you lying? Teachers did not diagnose the kids. They recommended doctors do the testing to determine the possible medical reasons for their disability. They never mentioned drugs. My grandson was 5 pounds at birth and was developmentally delayed. (Are you familiar with that term. Perhaps you can cut and paste some article you Googled and actually learn something.) we knew he was most likely going to have some issues, and he did. Diagnosed by doctors, not teachers.
 
Try reading my post again. What you claimed your source said was not true. Why are you lying? Teachers did not diagnose the kids. They recommended doctors do the testing to determine the possible medical reasons for their disability. They never mentioned drugs. My grandson was 5 pounds at birth and was developmentally delayed. (Are you familiar with that term. Perhaps you can cut and paste some article you Googled and actually learn something.) we knew he was most likely going to have some issues, and he did. Diagnosed by doctors, not teachers.
Time for you to go.
 
15th post
Try reading my post again. What you claimed your source said was not true. Why are you lying? Teachers did not diagnose the kids. They recommended doctors do the testing to determine the possible medical reasons for their disability. They never mentioned drugs. My grandson was 5 pounds at birth and was developmentally delayed. (Are you familiar with that term. Perhaps you can cut and paste some article you Googled and actually learn something.) we knew he was most likely going to have some issues, and he did. Diagnosed by doctors, not teachers.
They don't have to mention drugs , because hey know it'll end in drugging the kids Admiral

~S~
 
Time for you at admit when it comes to education you are a hack and the Queen of Cut and Paste from Google.
I'm perfectly willing to leave the determination up to readers of our posts.

One of us has clearly documented and proven a thesis, and the other is you.
 
They don't have to mention drugs , because hey know it'll end in drugging the kids Admiral

~S~
And this is pretty scary:


There is substantial evidence linking the consumption of psychotropic medications with leading to mania, hostility, violence, and even homicidal ideation yet little is still known regarding the link between psychiatric drugs and acts of senseless violence.
1756818194460.webp
ClinMed International Library
https://clinmedjournals.org › articles › jfmdp › journal-...
https://clinmedjournals.org/article...dence linking,and acts of senseless violence.
https://clinmedjournals.org/article...dence linking,and acts of senseless violence.
https://clinmedjournals.org/article...dence linking,and acts of senseless violence.
https://clinmedjournals.org/article...dence linking,and acts of senseless violence.
How many trans take psychotropic drugs?
 
They don't have to mention drugs , because hey know it'll end in drugging the kids Admiral

~S~
You know this how? Are you a doctor? I can't count the number of times I completed forms to indicate that I thought the parents need to break a switch across their kid's backside, in not so specific terms, rather than ADHD type of medications, but maybe that was just the sailor in me. It sure helped when I became an assistant principal. You were glad when they sent you to someone other than me for a discipline issue.
 
Back
Top Bottom