The curse of socialism…

[francoHFW]

TRANSPARENT COMPETITION. ACA when implemented.

When the PPACA was implemented, it hurt competition.

What the hell is transparent competition?

Go on the exchanges DUHHHHHH. After GOP and crony insurers stop sabotaging it, dupe.

 

[Onyx]

Go on the exchanges DUHHHHHH. After GOP and crony insurers stop sabotaging it, dupe.

Man, just define what you mean by transparent competition.

 

[francoHFW]

JESUS CHRIST!!! GOPers blocked everything you want in this area. HELLOOOOO????

The federal government are all progressives, no one blocked shit they all spent more than what they have to spend. fact

Your ignorance is amazing.

Bills Republicans Have Blocked Since President Obama Took Office ...
Bills Republicans Have Blocked Since President Obama Took Office: Off Topic Forum: Digital Photography Review
DP Review
I keep hearing this argument that Obama did not do enough....there is a long list of achievement I posted...http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3292812.
The Cost To Our Economy From Republican Obstruction And Sabotage
https://ourfuture.org/.../the-cost-to-our-economy-from...
Campaign for America's Future
Sep 23, 2014 - Since the 2009 “stimulus,” Republicans have obstructed pretty much every ... of bills Senate Republicans have filibustered since President Obama took ..... was no public support whatsoever for the policies being attempted.
Obama: GOP blocked 500 bills - POLITICO
www.politico.com/story/.../republicans-legislation-obama-dccc-event-106481
Politico
May 8, 2014 - He says the midterm elections are crucial because the GOP is willing ... Obama saysRepublicans have been obstructionist since even before ...►
Just the Facts: House Republicans' Record on Obstruction | The Office ...
https://www.democraticwhip.gov/.../just-facts-house-republicans-record-obstruction
Sep 11, 2014 - Senate Republicans have blocked debate on bill after bill, including: ... “Mitch McConnell has a game plan to confront President Barack Obama with a ... year: Accept bills reining in the administration's policies or veto them and ...
Obama: GOP has filibustered 500 bills | MSNBC
www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/obama-gop-has-blocked-500-bills
May 8, 2014 - The president slammed congressional Republicans for blocking legislation in a fundraising pitch on Wednesday.

You do realize that it is one party rule in Washington? The progressive party

Absolute idiocy. And we STILL have reaganist tax rates that give almost all new wealth to the richest, and wreck the middle class and the country. see sig PP1.

A progressive income tax has never made a healthy country, in fact it's been all downhill since... Or I should say uphill. LOL

Hilarious. Proven totally ignorant. Move on lol. Downhill since REAGANISM started, brainwashed functional moron. Read something. Later, chumps. lol

 

[Rustic]

TRANSPARENT COMPETITION. ACA when implemented.

When the PPACA was implemented, it hurt competition.

What the hell is transparent competition?

Go on the exchanges DUHHHHHH. After GOP and crony insurers stop sabotaging it, dupe.

Dupe, The whole process has been corrupt since the way it was voted in.

 

[Onyx]

Hilarious. Proven totally ignorant. Move on lol. Downhill since REAGANISM started, brainwashed functional moron. Read something. Later, chumps. lol

Reagan was a big government spender.

You said earlier that government spending helps the economy. You should be defending Reagan.

 

[Rustic]

The federal government are all progressives, no one blocked shit they all spent more than what they have to spend. fact

Your ignorance is amazing.

Bills Republicans Have Blocked Since President Obama Took Office ...
Bills Republicans Have Blocked Since President Obama Took Office: Off Topic Forum: Digital Photography Review
DP Review
I keep hearing this argument that Obama did not do enough....there is a long list of achievement I posted...http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3292812.
The Cost To Our Economy From Republican Obstruction And Sabotage
https://ourfuture.org/.../the-cost-to-our-economy-from...
Campaign for America's Future
Sep 23, 2014 - Since the 2009 “stimulus,” Republicans have obstructed pretty much every ... of bills Senate Republicans have filibustered since President Obama took ..... was no public support whatsoever for the policies being attempted.
Obama: GOP blocked 500 bills - POLITICO
www.politico.com/story/.../republicans-legislation-obama-dccc-event-106481
Politico
May 8, 2014 - He says the midterm elections are crucial because the GOP is willing ... Obama saysRepublicans have been obstructionist since even before ...►
Just the Facts: House Republicans' Record on Obstruction | The Office ...
https://www.democraticwhip.gov/.../just-facts-house-republicans-record-obstruction
Sep 11, 2014 - Senate Republicans have blocked debate on bill after bill, including: ... “Mitch McConnell has a game plan to confront President Barack Obama with a ... year: Accept bills reining in the administration's policies or veto them and ...
Obama: GOP has filibustered 500 bills | MSNBC
www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/obama-gop-has-blocked-500-bills
May 8, 2014 - The president slammed congressional Republicans for blocking legislation in a fundraising pitch on Wednesday.

You do realize that it is one party rule in Washington? The progressive party

Absolute idiocy. And we STILL have reaganist tax rates that give almost all new wealth to the richest, and wreck the middle class and the country. see sig PP1.

A progressive income tax has never made a healthy country, in fact it's been all downhill since... Or I should say uphill. LOL

Hilarious. Proven totally ignorant. Move on lol. Downhill since REAGANISM started, brainwashed functional moron. Read something. Later, chumps. lol

Deflection

 

[gipper]

Hilarious. Proven totally ignorant. Move on lol. Downhill since REAGANISM started, brainwashed functional moron. Read something. Later, chumps. lol

Reagan was a big government spender.

You said earlier that government spending helps the economy. You should be defending Reagan.

Well done.

 

[francoHFW]

Trickle down never worked. Trump complained of Reagans Tax cuts, said the wealthy would rather pay capital gains tax than invest in real estate. Bush Sr , had no choice but to raise taxes.

We need a more powerful IRS, EPA, and the ACA with GOP Governors expanding Medicaid.

Socialism has been tried thousands of times, it has a 100% fail rate long-term. And no, it will not work "this time"...

Those entities you speak of are the the very definition of greed, corruption and waste fraud and abuse…

That's communism dupe. Socialism outside your dupe bubble is always democratic, communism never and only put in by violent revolution.

Tell us where Socialism has worked a long term?

Original EU, Scandinavia, Canada, Japan, australia, and NZ.

 

[francoHFW]

Your ignorance is amazing.

Bills Republicans Have Blocked Since President Obama Took Office ...
Bills Republicans Have Blocked Since President Obama Took Office: Off Topic Forum: Digital Photography Review
DP Review
I keep hearing this argument that Obama did not do enough....there is a long list of achievement I posted...http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3292812.
The Cost To Our Economy From Republican Obstruction And Sabotage
https://ourfuture.org/.../the-cost-to-our-economy-from...
Campaign for America's Future
Sep 23, 2014 - Since the 2009 “stimulus,” Republicans have obstructed pretty much every ... of bills Senate Republicans have filibustered since President Obama took ..... was no public support whatsoever for the policies being attempted.
Obama: GOP blocked 500 bills - POLITICO
www.politico.com/story/.../republicans-legislation-obama-dccc-event-106481
Politico
May 8, 2014 - He says the midterm elections are crucial because the GOP is willing ... Obama saysRepublicans have been obstructionist since even before ...►
Just the Facts: House Republicans' Record on Obstruction | The Office ...
https://www.democraticwhip.gov/.../just-facts-house-republicans-record-obstruction
Sep 11, 2014 - Senate Republicans have blocked debate on bill after bill, including: ... “Mitch McConnell has a game plan to confront President Barack Obama with a ... year: Accept bills reining in the administration's policies or veto them and ...
Obama: GOP has filibustered 500 bills | MSNBC
www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/obama-gop-has-blocked-500-bills
May 8, 2014 - The president slammed congressional Republicans for blocking legislation in a fundraising pitch on Wednesday.

You do realize that it is one party rule in Washington? The progressive party

Absolute idiocy. And we STILL have reaganist tax rates that give almost all new wealth to the richest, and wreck the middle class and the country. see sig PP1.

A progressive income tax has never made a healthy country, in fact it's been all downhill since... Or I should say uphill. LOL

Hilarious. Proven totally ignorant. Move on lol. Downhill since REAGANISM started, brainwashed functional moron. Read something. Later, chumps. lol

Deflection

a) why is it that every other industrialized nation on Earth manages to deliver health care to a larger percentage of its population at a lower cost?

First off, the US population is only surpassed in population by China and India, so obviously the budget is always going to be a higher cost per percentage of population.

Healthcare does not have a one track cost. The best healthcare in the world exists in the United States, being pretty much the medical capital of the world. That means the most expensive surgeries, the highest costs for hospital care, and the largest selection of drugs at huge mark ups set by the corporations that produce them,

Relatively over 40% of healthcare costs go to seniors, so old people can stop themselves from croaking for several more years. The other 40% goes into health supply companies. (that's your corporate welfare PPACA) The rest is spread out lightly among the general population and research and development for new antibiotics and stuff.

Even though I totally oppose healthcare spending, your best bet for making it one of the best healthcare systems in the world is setting a significant spending cap on senior citizens. (stop expanding medicare Democrats) and ending corporate welfare in the health industry (never going to happen Democrats)

b) "Governments do not boost the economy. " This is ignorant codswallop......

They do not.

Would be nice to see an argument in support of your position though.

Transparent competition and gov't regulation. It's happening, dupe.

Admit it, socialism is a failure in all of its forms. Mainly because freedom and socialism cannot co-exist...

a) why is it that every other industrialized nation on Earth manages to deliver health care to a larger percentage of its population at a lower cost?

First off, the US population is only surpassed in population by China and India, so obviously the budget is always going to be a higher cost per percentage of population.

Healthcare does not have a one track cost. The best healthcare in the world exists in the United States, being pretty much the medical capital of the world. That means the most expensive surgeries, the highest costs for hospital care, and the largest selection of drugs at huge mark ups set by the corporations that produce them,

Relatively over 40% of healthcare costs go to seniors, so old people can stop themselves from croaking for several more years. The other 40% goes into health supply companies. (that's your corporate welfare PPACA) The rest is spread out lightly among the general population and research and development for new antibiotics and stuff.

Even though I totally oppose healthcare spending, your best bet for making it one of the best healthcare systems in the world is setting a significant spending cap on senior citizens. (stop expanding medicare Democrats) and ending corporate welfare in the health industry (never going to happen Democrats)

b) "Governments do not boost the economy. " This is ignorant codswallop......

They do not.

Would be nice to see an argument in support of your position though.

Transparent competition and gov't regulation. It's happening, dupe.

Admit it, socialism is a failure in all of its forms. Mainly because freedom and socialism cannot co-exist...

BS. That's communism, dupe.

 

[Rustic]

Trickle down never worked. Trump complained of Reagans Tax cuts, said the wealthy would rather pay capital gains tax than invest in real estate. Bush Sr , had no choice but to raise taxes.

We need a more powerful IRS, EPA, and the ACA with GOP Governors expanding Medicaid.

Socialism has been tried thousands of times, it has a 100% fail rate long-term. And no, it will not work "this time"...

Those entities you speak of are the the very definition of greed, corruption and waste fraud and abuse…

That's communism dupe. Socialism outside your dupe bubble is always democratic, communism never and only put in by violent revolution.

Tell us where Socialism has worked a long term?

Original EU, Scandinavia, Canada, Japan, australia, and NZ.

None of those are long-term, and most of them are on the verge of collapse under their own debt ridden weight...

 

[Rustic]

You do realize that it is one party rule in Washington? The progressive party

Absolute idiocy. And we STILL have reaganist tax rates that give almost all new wealth to the richest, and wreck the middle class and the country. see sig PP1.

A progressive income tax has never made a healthy country, in fact it's been all downhill since... Or I should say uphill. LOL

Hilarious. Proven totally ignorant. Move on lol. Downhill since REAGANISM started, brainwashed functional moron. Read something. Later, chumps. lol

Deflection

a) why is it that every other industrialized nation on Earth manages to deliver health care to a larger percentage of its population at a lower cost?

First off, the US population is only surpassed in population by China and India, so obviously the budget is always going to be a higher cost per percentage of population.

Healthcare does not have a one track cost. The best healthcare in the world exists in the United States, being pretty much the medical capital of the world. That means the most expensive surgeries, the highest costs for hospital care, and the largest selection of drugs at huge mark ups set by the corporations that produce them,

Relatively over 40% of healthcare costs go to seniors, so old people can stop themselves from croaking for several more years. The other 40% goes into health supply companies. (that's your corporate welfare PPACA) The rest is spread out lightly among the general population and research and development for new antibiotics and stuff.

Even though I totally oppose healthcare spending, your best bet for making it one of the best healthcare systems in the world is setting a significant spending cap on senior citizens. (stop expanding medicare Democrats) and ending corporate welfare in the health industry (never going to happen Democrats)

b) "Governments do not boost the economy. " This is ignorant codswallop......

They do not.

Would be nice to see an argument in support of your position though.

Transparent competition and gov't regulation. It's happening, dupe.

Admit it, socialism is a failure in all of its forms. Mainly because freedom and socialism cannot co-exist...

a) why is it that every other industrialized nation on Earth manages to deliver health care to a larger percentage of its population at a lower cost?

First off, the US population is only surpassed in population by China and India, so obviously the budget is always going to be a higher cost per percentage of population.

Healthcare does not have a one track cost. The best healthcare in the world exists in the United States, being pretty much the medical capital of the world. That means the most expensive surgeries, the highest costs for hospital care, and the largest selection of drugs at huge mark ups set by the corporations that produce them,

Relatively over 40% of healthcare costs go to seniors, so old people can stop themselves from croaking for several more years. The other 40% goes into health supply companies. (that's your corporate welfare PPACA) The rest is spread out lightly among the general population and research and development for new antibiotics and stuff.

Even though I totally oppose healthcare spending, your best bet for making it one of the best healthcare systems in the world is setting a significant spending cap on senior citizens. (stop expanding medicare Democrats) and ending corporate welfare in the health industry (never going to happen Democrats)

b) "Governments do not boost the economy. " This is ignorant codswallop......

They do not.

Would be nice to see an argument in support of your position though.

Transparent competition and gov't regulation. It's happening, dupe.

Admit it, socialism is a failure in all of its forms. Mainly because freedom and socialism cannot co-exist...

BS. That's communism, dupe.

Dupe, socialism breeds dictatorships, it's the best in the world at it...

 

[francoHFW]

That's communism dupe. Socialism outside your dupe bubble is always democratic, communism never and only put in by violent revolution.

You do realize Karl Marx popularized the term socialism? It is the revolutionary government geared towards transitioning the world into a communist utopia.

Liberal politics want to end up creating the perfect society through government. Try and differentiate the semantical differences between your definition of socialism and the communist definition of socialism...

Feq communism. Everyone else has. Start with what I said. The dictionary definition RWers always give says "means of production owned or REGULATED by the community"...REGULATED is socialism in the modern sense.

 

[francoHFW]

Trickle down never worked. Trump complained of Reagans Tax cuts, said the wealthy would rather pay capital gains tax than invest in real estate. Bush Sr , had no choice but to raise taxes.

We need a more powerful IRS, EPA, and the ACA with GOP Governors expanding Medicaid.

Socialism has been tried thousands of times, it has a 100% fail rate long-term. And no, it will not work "this time"...

Those entities you speak of are the the very definition of greed, corruption and waste fraud and abuse…

That's communism dupe. Socialism outside your dupe bubble is always democratic, communism never and only put in by violent revolution.

Tell us where Socialism has worked a long term?

Original EU, Scandinavia, Canada, Japan, australia, and NZ.

None of those are long-term, and most of them are on the verge of collapse under their own debt ridden weight...

BS. They do recover more slowly from corrupt GOP meltdowns without our natural resources. GD disastrous GOP, dupe.

 

[Rustic]

That's communism dupe. Socialism outside your dupe bubble is always democratic, communism never and only put in by violent revolution.

You do realize Karl Marx popularized the term socialism? It is the revolutionary government geared towards transitioning the world into a communist utopia.

Liberal politics want to end up creating the perfect society through government. Try and differentiate the semantical differences between your definition of socialism and the communist definition of socialism...

Feq communism. Everyone else has. Start with what I said. The dictionary definition RWers always give says "means of production owned or REGULATED by the community"...REGULATED is socialism in the modern sense.

 

[Onyx]

Original EU, Scandinavia, Canada, Japan, australia, and NZ.

Japan is actually closer to the US in almost every regard, so not sure why they are no that list. They have a larger debt to GDP than us too.

All those countries have produced an artificial economy for themselves. They are taking money from limited resource extraction that dwindles overtime to fuel a welfare system that is designed with permanency.

Scandinavia is the worst, since for most of their economies, 50% of their economic diversity is composed of non-sustainable resources. It is a heavily expanded bubble.

 

[Rustic]

Socialism has been tried thousands of times, it has a 100% fail rate long-term. And no, it will not work "this time"...

Those entities you speak of are the the very definition of greed, corruption and waste fraud and abuse…

That's communism dupe. Socialism outside your dupe bubble is always democratic, communism never and only put in by violent revolution.

Tell us where Socialism has worked a long term?

Original EU, Scandinavia, Canada, Japan, australia, and NZ.

None of those are long-term, and most of them are on the verge of collapse under their own debt ridden weight...

BS. They do recover more slowly from corrupt GOP meltdowns without our natural resources. GD disastrous GOP, dupe.

 

[Onyx]

Feq communism. Everyone else has. Start with what I said. The dictionary definition RWers always give says "means of production owned or REGULATED by the community"...REGULATED is socialism in the modern sense.

There is more than one dictionary definition, and there are always technical and philosophical definitions.

The technical and philosophical definitions say that the western world is communist.

 

[francoHFW]

Absolute idiocy. And we STILL have reaganist tax rates that give almost all new wealth to the richest, and wreck the middle class and the country. see sig PP1.

A progressive income tax has never made a healthy country, in fact it's been all downhill since... Or I should say uphill. LOL

Hilarious. Proven totally ignorant. Move on lol. Downhill since REAGANISM started, brainwashed functional moron. Read something. Later, chumps. lol

Deflection

a) why is it that every other industrialized nation on Earth manages to deliver health care to a larger percentage of its population at a lower cost?

First off, the US population is only surpassed in population by China and India, so obviously the budget is always going to be a higher cost per percentage of population.

Healthcare does not have a one track cost. The best healthcare in the world exists in the United States, being pretty much the medical capital of the world. That means the most expensive surgeries, the highest costs for hospital care, and the largest selection of drugs at huge mark ups set by the corporations that produce them,

Relatively over 40% of healthcare costs go to seniors, so old people can stop themselves from croaking for several more years. The other 40% goes into health supply companies. (that's your corporate welfare PPACA) The rest is spread out lightly among the general population and research and development for new antibiotics and stuff.

Even though I totally oppose healthcare spending, your best bet for making it one of the best healthcare systems in the world is setting a significant spending cap on senior citizens. (stop expanding medicare Democrats) and ending corporate welfare in the health industry (never going to happen Democrats)

b) "Governments do not boost the economy. " This is ignorant codswallop......

They do not.

Would be nice to see an argument in support of your position though.

Transparent competition and gov't regulation. It's happening, dupe.

Admit it, socialism is a failure in all of its forms. Mainly because freedom and socialism cannot co-exist...

a) why is it that every other industrialized nation on Earth manages to deliver health care to a larger percentage of its population at a lower cost?

First off, the US population is only surpassed in population by China and India, so obviously the budget is always going to be a higher cost per percentage of population.

Healthcare does not have a one track cost. The best healthcare in the world exists in the United States, being pretty much the medical capital of the world. That means the most expensive surgeries, the highest costs for hospital care, and the largest selection of drugs at huge mark ups set by the corporations that produce them,

Relatively over 40% of healthcare costs go to seniors, so old people can stop themselves from croaking for several more years. The other 40% goes into health supply companies. (that's your corporate welfare PPACA) The rest is spread out lightly among the general population and research and development for new antibiotics and stuff.

Even though I totally oppose healthcare spending, your best bet for making it one of the best healthcare systems in the world is setting a significant spending cap on senior citizens. (stop expanding medicare Democrats) and ending corporate welfare in the health industry (never going to happen Democrats)

b) "Governments do not boost the economy. " This is ignorant codswallop......

They do not.

Would be nice to see an argument in support of your position though.

Transparent competition and gov't regulation. It's happening, dupe.

Admit it, socialism is a failure in all of its forms. Mainly because freedom and socialism cannot co-exist...

BS. That's communism, dupe.

Dupe, socialism breeds dictatorships, it's the best in the world at it...

Never without violent revolution, dupe. Just like capitalism. Because it is capitalism. Just well regulated and fair. We barely qualify. Thanks GOP a-holes and dupes.

"We're all socialists now!"- Finland PM when ACA passed.

 

[francoHFW]

That's communism dupe. Socialism outside your dupe bubble is always democratic, communism never and only put in by violent revolution.

Tell us where Socialism has worked a long term?

Original EU, Scandinavia, Canada, Japan, australia, and NZ.

None of those are long-term, and most of them are on the verge of collapse under their own debt ridden weight...

BS. They do recover more slowly from corrupt GOP meltdowns without our natural resources. GD disastrous GOP, dupe.

Stop confusing the 2, stupid dupe.

 

[Clementine]

The political correctness of wanting something for nothing.

Tent Cities Full Of Homeless People Are Booming In Cities All Over America As Poverty Spikes | Zero Hedge

Betting that the takers likely aren't the ones living in the tents. The takers are comfy in their government housing. It's the givers that get screwed. Prices going up. Taxes going up. And when the middle class businesses got attacked by liberals with their over regulation and Obama care, jobs disappeared. Many businesses had to downsize to stay afloat. Many only offer part time work now since they can't afford full time employees due to the liberals making every employee a huge liability. People who were doing okay are suddenly vying for those part time jobs, but they aren't enough to keep their homes. So, they end up living worse than those who fed off them for years.