The CRUSADES explained

[eagle1462010]

http:The Battle of Tours (October 732),[27] also called the Battle of Poitiers and in Arabic: معركة بلاط الشهداء‎ (ma'arakat Balâṭ ash-Shuhadâ - Battle of the Palace of Martyrs)[28][29][30] was fought in an area between the cities of Poitiers and Tours, in north-central France, near the village of Moussais-la-Bataille, about 20 kilometres (12 mi) northeast of Poitiers. The location of the battle was close to the border between the Frankish realm and then-independent Aquitaine. The battle pitted Frankish and Burgundian[31][32] forces under Austrasian Mayor of the Palace Charles Martel against an army of the Umayyad Caliphate led by 'Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi, Governor-General of al-Andalus//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours

The battle of Tours in Central France finally stopped the Muslim Caliphate which had conquered all of Northern Africa, Spain, Sicily, and failed to conquer France and the rest of Europe.

A turning point in the War against RADICAL ISLAM in Medieval times.

There's no real evidence that Tours was anything more than a raiding party.

But do keep on with your paranoia.

There's a big sweaty Arab man hiding under your bed right now.

This thread is about the CRUSADES..........remember............

BACK ON TOPIC.............The MUSLIM CALIPHATE was stopped.........A turning point against the ISLAMIC States trying to dominate the world,

The events leading up to the Crusades were to retake the LANDS taken BY MUSLIMS. EVENTUALLY leading to take back the Jerusalem

The why did the Crusaders sack Constantinople when it was under Byzantine rule?

I referred to the beginning Crusade............by the 4th Crusade, which you are referencing the Crusade had grown to killing all who were in their path, including their own....................

The 4th Crusade actually weakened the defenses against the rise of the OTTOMANS............The Crusades were eventually a failure..............they eventually turned against the very reason they started to begin with............To protect Europe and keep Constantinople from falling to the Turks of that day and age.

It's failure, led to Centuries of control by the Turks.................who were not defeated again until WWII.

WWI...

oops didn't see the double II.............THANKS FOR THE CORRECTION.

 

[Moonglow]

There's no real evidence that Tours was anything more than a raiding party.

But do keep on with your paranoia.

There's a big sweaty Arab man hiding under your bed right now.

This thread is about the CRUSADES..........remember............

BACK ON TOPIC.............The MUSLIM CALIPHATE was stopped.........A turning point against the ISLAMIC States trying to dominate the world,

The events leading up to the Crusades were to retake the LANDS taken BY MUSLIMS. EVENTUALLY leading to take back the Jerusalem

The why did the Crusaders sack Constantinople when it was under Byzantine rule?

I referred to the beginning Crusade............by the 4th Crusade, which you are referencing the Crusade had grown to killing all who were in their path, including their own....................

The 4th Crusade actually weakened the defenses against the rise of the OTTOMANS............The Crusades were eventually a failure..............they eventually turned against the very reason they started to begin with............To protect Europe and keep Constantinople from falling to the Turks of that day and age.

It's failure, led to Centuries of control by the Turks.................who were not defeated again until WWII.

WWI...

oops didn't see the double II.............THANKS FOR THE CORRECTION.

No problamo, I do it also....I have fat fingers and shake....that is why I add so many periods at the end...

 

[jon_berzerk]

lots of people talk about the Crusades but they talk about the Crusades like they know what they are talking about . Liars can then exploit ignorance and claim that the Crusaders were as bad as the islamic jihadists 'jihads' that are murdering today . Anyway , this video explains the Crusades and the reason for the Crusades . --- Take Five Minutes And Watch The Spread Of Islam Via Jihad Before The Crusades 8902 Dc Gazette# --- check it out , see what you think .

interesting factoid

obama has killed more folks with his dronestrikers

then the spanish Inquisition

--LOL

Yet the right claims Oblama has done nothing against Muslim terrorist...Which is it going to be?

Since when did Obama have anything to do with the Crusades.............this goes to all..............

This whole discussion is about BLOW back on his statements.......................Who basically condemned the Crusades and compared them to modern day terrorism.............................

What his statement didn't show is the Conquest of the West and Europe by Muslims during this time period.................

And that the original CALL TO ARMS of the Crusades was to save Constantinople from the TURKS of that day.

Later, the Crusades changed to utter insanity as they killed their own as they didn't have the numbers or the money to proceed................Unsupported they chose the path to kill and main their own kind who refused to support them, in kind of a PAYBACK SITUATION....................

To them they came to fight for the church..................ONLY TO BE ABANDONED BY THE CHURCH...........so they attacked the church in response............leading to losses and expansion of the TURKS.

exactly

the prezbo was talkin out his ass on the crusades

 

[Moonglow]

lots of people talk about the Crusades but they talk about the Crusades like they know what they are talking about . Liars can then exploit ignorance and claim that the Crusaders were as bad as the islamic jihadists 'jihads' that are murdering today . Anyway , this video explains the Crusades and the reason for the Crusades . --- Take Five Minutes And Watch The Spread Of Islam Via Jihad Before The Crusades 8902 Dc Gazette# --- check it out , see what you think .

interesting factoid

obama has killed more folks with his dronestrikers

then the spanish Inquisition

--LOL

Yet the right claims Oblama has done nothing against Muslim terrorist...Which is it going to be?

Since when did Obama have anything to do with the Crusades.............this goes to all..............

This whole discussion is about BLOW back on his statements.......................Who basically condemned the Crusades and compared them to modern day terrorism.............................

What his statement didn't show is the Conquest of the West and Europe by Muslims during this time period.................

And that the original CALL TO ARMS of the Crusades was to save Constantinople from the TURKS of that day.

Later, the Crusades changed to utter insanity as they killed their own as they didn't have the numbers or the money to proceed................Unsupported they chose the path to kill and main their own kind who refused to support them, in kind of a PAYBACK SITUATION....................

To them they came to fight for the church..................ONLY TO BE ABANDONED BY THE CHURCH...........so they attacked the church in response............leading to losses and expansion of the TURKS.

exactly

the prezbo was talkin out his ass on the crusades

Actually if you read the entire statement it is relevant, but what is being argued about is only about what was said partially...

 

[jon_berzerk]

lots of people talk about the Crusades but they talk about the Crusades like they know what they are talking about . Liars can then exploit ignorance and claim that the Crusaders were as bad as the islamic jihadists 'jihads' that are murdering today . Anyway , this video explains the Crusades and the reason for the Crusades . --- Take Five Minutes And Watch The Spread Of Islam Via Jihad Before The Crusades 8902 Dc Gazette# --- check it out , see what you think .

interesting factoid

obama has killed more folks with his dronestrikers

then the spanish Inquisition

--LOL

Yet the right claims Oblama has done nothing against Muslim terrorist...Which is it going to be?

indeed

the reference is to citizens outside of the declared warzone

collateral damage so to speak

but hey who counts those in this day and age


--LOL

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Zionism -v- Islam
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BEWARE ZIONISM!​

Does anyone see any reason to believe that Islam is ZIONISTIC?
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[jon_berzerk]

lots of people talk about the Crusades but they talk about the Crusades like they know what they are talking about . Liars can then exploit ignorance and claim that the Crusaders were as bad as the islamic jihadists 'jihads' that are murdering today . Anyway , this video explains the Crusades and the reason for the Crusades . --- Take Five Minutes And Watch The Spread Of Islam Via Jihad Before The Crusades 8902 Dc Gazette# --- check it out , see what you think .

interesting factoid

obama has killed more folks with his dronestrikers

then the spanish Inquisition

--LOL

Yet the right claims Oblama has done nothing against Muslim terrorist...Which is it going to be?

Since when did Obama have anything to do with the Crusades.............this goes to all..............

This whole discussion is about BLOW back on his statements.......................Who basically condemned the Crusades and compared them to modern day terrorism.............................

What his statement didn't show is the Conquest of the West and Europe by Muslims during this time period.................

And that the original CALL TO ARMS of the Crusades was to save Constantinople from the TURKS of that day.

Later, the Crusades changed to utter insanity as they killed their own as they didn't have the numbers or the money to proceed................Unsupported they chose the path to kill and main their own kind who refused to support them, in kind of a PAYBACK SITUATION....................

To them they came to fight for the church..................ONLY TO BE ABANDONED BY THE CHURCH...........so they attacked the church in response............leading to losses and expansion of the TURKS.

exactly

the prezbo was talkin out his ass on the crusades

Actually if you read the entire statement it is relevant, but what is being argued about is only about what was said partially...

the prezbo is an idiot

the next time a christian

straps on a suicide belt

and runs into a mosque

and blows the place up while yelling

god is great

let the board know

--LOL

 

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[JoeB131]

This thread is about the CRUSADES..........remember............

BACK ON TOPIC.............The MUSLIM CALIPHATE was stopped.........A turning point against the ISLAMIC States trying to dominate the world,

The events leading up to the Crusades were to retake the LANDS taken BY MUSLIMS. EVENTUALLY leading to take back the Jerusalem

For less than 100 years. And in exchange for that, Byzantium was so weakened the Ottomans were able to waltz into Europe.

How was this a good idea again?

 

[JoeB131]

Mother's should teach their children that two wrongs do not make a right. And Mother's should also teach their children that it is NEVER WRONG to defend innocent people from the savagery of a brutal cult.

Therefore a Mother would teach her children that the Crusades, wherein Christian's rescued Christians from the savage rule of Muslims, were NOT WRONG; that such was decidedly RIGHT... and a very GOOD THING. That the Crusades were a very minor series of battles fought in RESPONSE TO AND WHICH QUELLED A MASSIVE INVASION of a demonic cult, the result of which is what we know today, as "The Dark Ages!".

Unless mothers are qualified history teachers, you should probably take what she says with a grain of salt.

Point is, both sides could list a whole bunch of greivences on the other in their 1400 year game of "My Sky Pixie has a bigger dick than Your Sky Pixie"

 

[eagle1462010]

This thread is about the CRUSADES..........remember............

BACK ON TOPIC.............The MUSLIM CALIPHATE was stopped.........A turning point against the ISLAMIC States trying to dominate the world,

The events leading up to the Crusades were to retake the LANDS taken BY MUSLIMS. EVENTUALLY leading to take back the Jerusalem

For less than 100 years. And in exchange for that, Byzantium was so weakened the Ottomans were able to waltz into Europe.

How was this a good idea again?

and as you ignore the HISTORY that forced the fight....................as has already been shown.............

In current day France the CALIPHATE failed...............As the Caliphate had taken North Africa and SPAIN.............

The Muslims were at their door step......................

Would you have just converted to ISLAM AND BEEN THEIR BITCH.

 

[JoeB131]

I referred to the beginning Crusade............by the 4th Crusade, which you are referencing the Crusade had grown to killing all who were in their path, including their own....................

The 4th Crusade actually weakened the defenses against the rise of the OTTOMANS............The Crusades were eventually a failure..............they eventually turned against the very reason they started to begin with............To protect Europe and keep Constantinople from falling to the Turks of that day and age.

It's failure, led to Centuries of control by the Turks.................who were not defeated again until WWII.

Um, the Turks were neutral in World War II.

Is all your history this shoddy?

the Crusades were a failure because they were a terrible idea.

 

[eagle1462010]

Mother's should teach their children that two wrongs do not make a right. And Mother's should also teach their children that it is NEVER WRONG to defend innocent people from the savagery of a brutal cult.

Therefore a Mother would teach her children that the Crusades, wherein Christian's rescued Christians from the savage rule of Muslims, were NOT WRONG; that such was decidedly RIGHT... and a very GOOD THING. That the Crusades were a very minor series of battles fought in RESPONSE TO AND WHICH QUELLED A MASSIVE INVASION of a demonic cult, the result of which is what we know today, as "The Dark Ages!".

Unless mothers are qualified history teachers, you should probably take what she says with a grain of salt.

Point is, both sides could list a whole bunch of greivences on the other in their 1400 year game of "My Sky Pixie has a bigger dick than Your Sky Pixie"

again an ignorance in HISTORY.............

As the Christians were performing Peaceful Pilgrimage to Jerusalem before the early Turks...........they increased Trade and prosperity for the people in the Middle East, until the Muslims decided to INVADE..............and say convert or die.

 

[JoeB131]

and as you ignore the HISTORY that forced the fight....................as has already been shown.............

In current day France the CALIPHATE failed...............As the Caliphate had taken North Africa and SPAIN.............

The Muslims were at their door step......................

Would you have just converted to ISLAM AND BEEN THEIR BITCH.

I don't think I'd want to be a Christian or a Muslim in 8th century Europe. The whole period was full of major suckage and short brutish lives. And no WiFi.

But to say that one group of 8th century savages were somehow better than another is kind of silly. Technologically, politically, scientifically, the Muslims actually had the upper hand, in terms of trade, commerce, etc. Europe didn't really come into its own until it had the resources of the Americas to exploit.

that is when they weren't killing each other over whether Jesus was made of wafers or not.

 

[JoeB131]

again an ignorance in HISTORY.............

As the Christians were performing Peaceful Pilgrimage to Jerusalem before the early Turks...........they increased Trade and prosperity for the people in the Middle East, until the Muslims decided to INVADE..............and say convert or die.

Again, this is the guy who thinks the turks were defeated in World War II....

 

[eagle1462010]

I referred to the beginning Crusade............by the 4th Crusade, which you are referencing the Crusade had grown to killing all who were in their path, including their own....................

The 4th Crusade actually weakened the defenses against the rise of the OTTOMANS............The Crusades were eventually a failure..............they eventually turned against the very reason they started to begin with............To protect Europe and keep Constantinople from falling to the Turks of that day and age.

It's failure, led to Centuries of control by the Turks.................who were not defeated again until WWII.

Um, the Turks were neutral in World War II.

Is all your history this shoddy?

the Crusades were a failure because they were a terrible idea.

Again you ignorance shines through........................

I was talking about the History I've already shown.............when they controlled most of the land from Mongolia to almost Constantinople....................

They were the SEED of the OTTOMANS....................and Turkey was beaten in WWI and lost their control........which is why they didn't fight in WWII...............

Yet they had no problem committing GENOCIDE on the Armenians and placing their heads on pikes now did they.

 

[eagle1462010]

and as you ignore the HISTORY that forced the fight....................as has already been shown.............

In current day France the CALIPHATE failed...............As the Caliphate had taken North Africa and SPAIN.............

The Muslims were at their door step......................

Would you have just converted to ISLAM AND BEEN THEIR BITCH.

I don't think I'd want to be a Christian or a Muslim in 8th century Europe. The whole period was full of major suckage and short brutish lives. And no WiFi.

But to say that one group of 8th century savages were somehow better than another is kind of silly. Technologically, politically, scientifically, the Muslims actually had the upper hand, in terms of trade, commerce, etc. Europe didn't really come into its own until it had the resources of the Americas to exploit.

that is when they weren't killing each other over whether Jesus was made of wafers or not.

As you ignore why the Crusades happened to begin with all together................The Church sanctioned it as they knew it was the way to get the numbers needed to turn the tide.......................

It worked for a while, and then they abandoned the Crusades leading to blow back in the day..........as the 4th Crusade turned on them as they were left out to dry by the Church.

 

[eagle1462010]

again an ignorance in HISTORY.............

As the Christians were performing Peaceful Pilgrimage to Jerusalem before the early Turks...........they increased Trade and prosperity for the people in the Middle East, until the Muslims decided to INVADE..............and say convert or die.

Again, this is the guy who thinks the turks were defeated in World War II....

Again you twist the facts of the thread to defend your position.

aka YOU LIE................to quote a phrase used against your sugar daddy.............

What have you brought to this thread but LIES..............what sites have you quoted to confirm your position...........

Other than you are an Atheist who enjoys attacking any religion..........and ignore the barbaric attrocities of ISIS and would rather blame Christians for acts made over 800 years ago............that we have proven to initially be caused by the Muslims invading them.

YEP.......YOU'D BE THEIR BITCH.