The Cost of the Rioting

[ClosedCaption]

Rioting is wrong no matter who does it.

Posting an example of a white riot doesn't negate the wrongess of a black riot.

And NO ONE denied that whites riot, this thread as C_Clayton_Jones would say (except that unlike him, I'm right) is a strawman fallacy and a failure at that.

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

You're right, White leaders didnt show up, werent outraged, didnt condemn it or anything. I think thats a bold move to say that doing nothing is a virtue....really

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

No, actually they dont...MB was dead before they went, people were mad before they went, the news covered before they went.

You just waited until a black leader showed up (like always) to claim that the real problem is them and not the dead bodies piling up.

Pretty bold to step over a crime scene to yell at the people talking about the crime scene

 

[Asclepias]

Rioting is wrong no matter who does it.

Posting an example of a white riot doesn't negate the wrongess of a black riot.

And NO ONE denied that whites riot, this thread as C_Clayton_Jones would say (except that unlike him, I'm right) is a strawman fallacy and a failure at that.

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

White people dont need an Al Sharpton. They own the political and legal structure.

White people scream about supposed Black leaders because they are deflecting from the issues. Your presumption of "like it or not" is another manifestation of the white need to control the narrative. Doesnt work on me.

 

[boedicca]

Rioting is wrong no matter who does it.

Posting an example of a white riot doesn't negate the wrongess of a black riot.

And NO ONE denied that whites riot, this thread as C_Clayton_Jones would say (except that unlike him, I'm right) is a strawman fallacy and a failure at that.

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

White people dont need an Al Sharpton. They own the political and legal structure.

White people scream about supposed Black leaders because they are deflecting from the issues. Your presumption of "like it or not" is another manifestation of the white need to control the narrative. Doesnt work on me.

Damn, you are clueless.

Look at the areas where the looting occurred: controlled by Progressives for decades.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Rioting is wrong no matter who does it.

Posting an example of a white riot doesn't negate the wrongess of a black riot.

And NO ONE denied that whites riot, this thread as C_Clayton_Jones would say (except that unlike him, I'm right) is a strawman fallacy and a failure at that.

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

Quite the contrary. Whites rioting is dismissed as blowing of steam or being disruptive. In history its simply swept under the rug and causes anger when brought to light.

even Two Thumbs did it and didnt realize it:

this has got to be the worst "It's ok b/c .... did it." ever


grow the **** u, what is going on isn't ok, the Pres making it worse isn't ok, blacks killing people with hammers, isn't ok, b/c some hockey fans went nuts for a cuple of days

Just "went nuts" for a "couple days" thats all

 

[Asclepias]

Rioting is wrong no matter who does it.

Posting an example of a white riot doesn't negate the wrongess of a black riot.

And NO ONE denied that whites riot, this thread as C_Clayton_Jones would say (except that unlike him, I'm right) is a strawman fallacy and a failure at that.

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

White people dont need an Al Sharpton. They own the political and legal structure.

White people scream about supposed Black leaders because they are deflecting from the issues. Your presumption of "like it or not" is another manifestation of the white need to control the narrative. Doesnt work on me.

Damn, you are clueless.

Look at the areas where the looting occurred: controlled by Progressives for decades.

Look at the areas of white rioting. Controlled by Conservatives for centuries.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Rioting is wrong no matter who does it.

Posting an example of a white riot doesn't negate the wrongess of a black riot.

And NO ONE denied that whites riot, this thread as C_Clayton_Jones would say (except that unlike him, I'm right) is a strawman fallacy and a failure at that.

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

You don't like white people. We get it.

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

White people dont need an Al Sharpton. They own the political and legal structure.

White people scream about supposed Black leaders because they are deflecting from the issues. Your presumption of "like it or not" is another manifestation of the white need to control the narrative. Doesnt work on me.

You don't like white people. We get it.

 

[CherryPanda]

We have a rioting culture, people. Just think about it: 300 riots within 200 years. That's at least 1 riot per year.
And there's no end in the foreseeable future. Too much tension, too many controversies.

 

[Asclepias]

We have a rioting culture, people. Just think about it: 300 riots within 200 years. That's at least 1 riot per year.
And there's no end in the foreseeable future. Too much tension, too many controversies.

Whites have a rioting culture. How many of those 300 riots were by white people vs people of color?

 

[boedicca]

Rioting is wrong no matter who does it.

Posting an example of a white riot doesn't negate the wrongess of a black riot.

And NO ONE denied that whites riot, this thread as C_Clayton_Jones would say (except that unlike him, I'm right) is a strawman fallacy and a failure at that.

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

White people dont need an Al Sharpton. They own the political and legal structure.

White people scream about supposed Black leaders because they are deflecting from the issues. Your presumption of "like it or not" is another manifestation of the white need to control the narrative. Doesnt work on me.

Damn, you are clueless.

Look at the areas where the looting occurred: controlled by Progressives for decades.

Look at the areas of white rioting. Controlled by Conservatives for centuries.

What white riots?

 

[ClosedCaption]

We have a rioting culture, people. Just think about it: 300 riots within 200 years. That's at least 1 riot per year.
And there's no end in the foreseeable future. Too much tension, too many controversies.

Whites have a rioting culture. How many of those 300 riots were by white people vs people of color?

Probably somewhere around 285-290 range

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Still hammering on that white vs. everyone else thing, I see. How does it feel to be a racist?

 

[Asclepias]

Rioting is wrong no matter who does it.

Posting an example of a white riot doesn't negate the wrongess of a black riot.

And NO ONE denied that whites riot, this thread as C_Clayton_Jones would say (except that unlike him, I'm right) is a strawman fallacy and a failure at that.

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

You don't like white people. We get it.

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

White people dont need an Al Sharpton. They own the political and legal structure.

White people scream about supposed Black leaders because they are deflecting from the issues. Your presumption of "like it or not" is another manifestation of the white need to control the narrative. Doesnt work on me.

You don't like white people. We get it.

Only when they tell me Black people are animals and shouldnt riot.

 

[Asclepias]

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

White people dont need an Al Sharpton. They own the political and legal structure.

White people scream about supposed Black leaders because they are deflecting from the issues. Your presumption of "like it or not" is another manifestation of the white need to control the narrative. Doesnt work on me.

Damn, you are clueless.

Look at the areas where the looting occurred: controlled by Progressives for decades.

Look at the areas of white rioting. Controlled by Conservatives for centuries.

What white riots?

Read the thread. I have listed several instances.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Rioting is wrong no matter who does it.

Posting an example of a white riot doesn't negate the wrongess of a black riot.

And NO ONE denied that whites riot, this thread as C_Clayton_Jones would say (except that unlike him, I'm right) is a strawman fallacy and a failure at that.

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

You're right, White leaders didnt show up, werent outraged, didnt condemn it or anything. I think thats a bold move to say that doing nothing is a virtue....really

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

No, actually they dont...MB was dead before they went, people were mad before they went, the news covered before they went.

You just waited until a black leader showed up (like always) to claim that the real problem is them and not the dead bodies piling up.

Pretty bold to step over a crime scene to yell at the people talking about the crime scene

The REAL problem is them friend.

All these people who are dead by cop? Maybe 10% of them are due to something other than their own stupidity.


SURELY you can at least admit that Brown shouldn't have fought with a cop as an example.

 

[Asclepias]

Still hammering on that white vs. everyone else thing, I see. How does it feel to be a racist?

I dont know. You should enlighten us all since you cant produce an argument and need to deflect.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

White people dont need an Al Sharpton. They own the political and legal structure.

White people scream about supposed Black leaders because they are deflecting from the issues. Your presumption of "like it or not" is another manifestation of the white need to control the narrative. Doesnt work on me.

Damn, you are clueless.

Look at the areas where the looting occurred: controlled by Progressives for decades.

Look at the areas of white rioting. Controlled by Conservatives for centuries.

What white riots?

The one in Canada




that one time.


Oh and the one in NH at the Pumpkin festival LOL

 

[Asclepias]

Rioting is wrong no matter who does it.

Posting an example of a white riot doesn't negate the wrongess of a black riot.

And NO ONE denied that whites riot, this thread as C_Clayton_Jones would say (except that unlike him, I'm right) is a strawman fallacy and a failure at that.

No it doesnt negate the wrongness of anything but I have to wonder where are the calls for white leaders to do something? Where is the musings of what their upbringing and lack of role models discussion? No one called them animals or anything....Weird huh?

Well, it would be weird if you thought those questions were about riots in the first place hehehe

Well, one difference is that you don't see a white Al Sharpton flying into town making excuses for those morons who burn a town to celebrate a hockey win.

You're right, White leaders didnt show up, werent outraged, didnt condemn it or anything. I think thats a bold move to say that doing nothing is a virtue....really

That's why people are screaming about "black leaders" Sharpton , Jackson etc etc , like it or not they are perceived to be black leaders, and they cause problems rather than solve problems.

No, actually they dont...MB was dead before they went, people were mad before they went, the news covered before they went.

You just waited until a black leader showed up (like always) to claim that the real problem is them and not the dead bodies piling up.

Pretty bold to step over a crime scene to yell at the people talking about the crime scene

The REAL problem is them friend.

All these people who are dead by cop? Maybe 10% of them are due to something other than their own stupidity.


SURELY you can at least admit that Brown shouldn't have fought with a cop as an example.

Since Wilson assaulted Brown how can you say he shouldnt have fought Wilson?

 

[ClosedCaption]

"That kind of comparison is really important because it's those attitudes that make state violence possible," Murch said. "White youth are allowed to be children and have a sense of protection no matter how they behave, while black youth are criminalized by justice system. They're not allowed to have childhoods."

Perceptions of behavior

Those perceptions extend to riots, too, which most people tend to associate with the black community, said Victoria W. Wolcott, director of undergraduate studies at the University of Buffalo-New York and author of "Race, Riots, and Roller Coasters: The Struggle Over Segregated Recreation in America."

"Race riots" tends to conjure memories of the Rodney King acquittal or 1967 Detroit, but those are anomalies, Wolcott said. Throughout history, white mobs have perpetrated the majority of racially motivated riots against the black community over integration in public and private life -- from the 1863 draft riots to the civil rights battles of the 1960s.

"It speaks to the notion that white violent behavior is not something talked about or stigmatized in the media or in mainstream society to extent that African-American rioting or looting behavior is," Wolcott said.

Pumpkin Fest was a dramatic version of that because of initial characterizations of crowd behavior as rowdy: vandalization of cars and streets signs, fighting police and setting fires in the streets. White people frequently get "rowdy" at sporting events or music festivals, but that behavior is not associated with the white community on the whole in the same way that instances of looting or vandalization tend to be associated with the black community, she said.

"White behavior gets normalized," she said. "In the African-American community, the long-term complaint is that the behavior of a small number of people stigmatizes the entire race or community. But you don't hear that same racialized language about small groups of white people that behave badly. They do not stigmatize the community in the same way."

Why Pumpkin Fest riots are not like Ferguson - CNN.com

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

"That kind of comparison is really important because it's those attitudes that make state violence possible," Murch said. "White youth are allowed to be children and have a sense of protection no matter how they behave, while black youth are criminalized by justice system. They're not allowed to have childhoods."

Perceptions of behavior

Those perceptions extend to riots, too, which most people tend to associate with the black community, said Victoria W. Wolcott, director of undergraduate studies at the University of Buffalo-New York and author of "Race, Riots, and Roller Coasters: The Struggle Over Segregated Recreation in America."

"Race riots" tends to conjure memories of the Rodney King acquittal or 1967 Detroit, but those are anomalies, Wolcott said. Throughout history, white mobs have perpetrated the majority of racially motivated riots against the black community over integration in public and private life -- from the 1863 draft riots to the civil rights battles of the 1960s.

"It speaks to the notion that white violent behavior is not something talked about or stigmatized in the media or in mainstream society to extent that African-American rioting or looting behavior is," Wolcott said.

Pumpkin Fest was a dramatic version of that because of initial characterizations of crowd behavior as rowdy: vandalization of cars and streets signs, fighting police and setting fires in the streets. White people frequently get "rowdy" at sporting events or music festivals, but that behavior is not associated with the white community on the whole in the same way that instances of looting or vandalization tend to be associated with the black community, she said.

"White behavior gets normalized," she said. "In the African-American community, the long-term complaint is that the behavior of a small number of people stigmatizes the entire race or community. But you don't hear that same racialized language about small groups of white people that behave badly. They do not stigmatize the community in the same way."

Why Pumpkin Fest riots are not like Ferguson - CNN.com

Anyone who "normalizes" a riot is an idiot. Regardless of who is rioting.

 

[Asclepias]

"That kind of comparison is really important because it's those attitudes that make state violence possible," Murch said. "White youth are allowed to be children and have a sense of protection no matter how they behave, while black youth are criminalized by justice system. They're not allowed to have childhoods."

Perceptions of behavior

Those perceptions extend to riots, too, which most people tend to associate with the black community, said Victoria W. Wolcott, director of undergraduate studies at the University of Buffalo-New York and author of "Race, Riots, and Roller Coasters: The Struggle Over Segregated Recreation in America."

"Race riots" tends to conjure memories of the Rodney King acquittal or 1967 Detroit, but those are anomalies, Wolcott said. Throughout history, white mobs have perpetrated the majority of racially motivated riots against the black community over integration in public and private life -- from the 1863 draft riots to the civil rights battles of the 1960s.

"It speaks to the notion that white violent behavior is not something talked about or stigmatized in the media or in mainstream society to extent that African-American rioting or looting behavior is," Wolcott said.

Pumpkin Fest was a dramatic version of that because of initial characterizations of crowd behavior as rowdy: vandalization of cars and streets signs, fighting police and setting fires in the streets. White people frequently get "rowdy" at sporting events or music festivals, but that behavior is not associated with the white community on the whole in the same way that instances of looting or vandalization tend to be associated with the black community, she said.

"White behavior gets normalized," she said. "In the African-American community, the long-term complaint is that the behavior of a small number of people stigmatizes the entire race or community. But you don't hear that same racialized language about small groups of white people that behave badly. They do not stigmatize the community in the same way."

Why Pumpkin Fest riots are not like Ferguson - CNN.com

Anyone who "normalizes" a riot is an idiot. Regardless of who is rioting.

How about people that pretend riots by whites have no effect?