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The conventional thinking that unemployment benefits are discouraging job seeking simply isn’t true
- Thread starter Billy000
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If I’m right, I’m right.And yet the stimulus law is in full force.No. He has barely been in office for 3 1/2 months.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Regardless of why jobs are being created, the point of my thread is that those benefits are not discouraging seeking employment.
Nice deflection and dodge.
Hence the use of the word "regardless"
You are dismissed.
Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Take your pre-spun facts with you, too.
Just because you insist upon being right does not in fact make you right. There are business owners on this board who would swiftly disagree with your "facts".
Facts and experience are two different things, Billy. You don't have any experience whatsoever. You don't even ask these people, the people who are experiencing this first hand, what's actually happening on the ground.
So stuff it, hack.
I did read, and I just read the title.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Just read.
Consumer spending almost always goes up when a stimulus is passed. That doesn't necessarily translate into economic recovery.
But TK the facts are facts. Manchin (and me) were concerned that extending UI would cause more people to file until benefits were exhausted. Yet fewer people are filing for UI. The predicted cause-effect is not happening. We should be seeing people hanging onto benefits through Aug, but we aren't.If I’m right, I’m right.And yet the stimulus law is in full force.No. He has barely been in office for 3 1/2 months.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Regardless of why jobs are being created, the point of my thread is that those benefits are not discouraging seeking employment.
Nice deflection and dodge.
Hence the use of the word "regardless"
You are dismissed.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Take your pre-spun facts with you, too.
Just because you insist upon being right does not in fact make you right. There are business owners on this board who would swiftly disagree with your "facts".
Facts and experience are two different things, Billy. You don't have any experience whatsoever. You don't even ask these people, the people who are experiencing this first hand, what's actually happening on the ground.
So stuff it, hack.
- Thread starter
- #45
The facts speak for themselves.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Just read.
Right...
After he leaves office, Joe can be a spokesman for
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- Thread starter
- #46
As you may have noticed, incomes rose in part because of the stimulus.I did read, and I just read the title.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Just read.
Consumer spending almost always goes up when a stimulus is passed. That doesn't necessarily translate into economic recovery.
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The facts speak for themselves.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Just read.
Right...
After he leaves office, Joe can be a spokesman for
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Yes, they do.
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2017---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.
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Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.
Ewe do know in May of 2016 Obama was still in office right,
MAGA
As you may have noticed, incomes rose in part because of the stimulus.I did read, and I just read the title.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Just read.
Consumer spending almost always goes up when a stimulus is passed. That doesn't necessarily translate into economic recovery.
And when the money is spent, the incomes drop again.
You seriously don't know how this works do you? Stimuli in this case are temporary.
And since that is an indisputable fact, that only means the economic recovery will be too.
You think stimulus bills are some sort of permanent solution to our economic crises. The only permanent stimulus is a steady income, a job.
Please, continue demonstrating how clueless you are on this subject.
But TK the facts are facts. Manchin (and me) were concerned that extending UI would cause more people to file until benefits were exhausted. Yet fewer people are filing for UI. The predicted cause-effect is not happening. We should be seeing people hanging onto benefits through Aug, but we aren't.If I’m right, I’m right.And yet the stimulus law is in full force.No. He has barely been in office for 3 1/2 months.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Regardless of why jobs are being created, the point of my thread is that those benefits are not discouraging seeking employment.
Nice deflection and dodge.
Hence the use of the word "regardless"
You are dismissed.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Take your pre-spun facts with you, too.
Just because you insist upon being right does not in fact make you right. There are business owners on this board who would swiftly disagree with your "facts".
Facts and experience are two different things, Billy. You don't have any experience whatsoever. You don't even ask these people, the people who are experiencing this first hand, what's actually happening on the ground.
So stuff it, hack.
As I said, facts do not tell the story of experience.
So no. I don't accept facts unless they are backed by the combined experiences of more than just a few employers on a statistical survey.
I think you are totally misreading what Billy posts. He didn't advocate extending UI benefits forever simply to extend them.As you may have noticed, incomes rose in part because of the stimulus.I did read, and I just read the title.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Just read.
Consumer spending almost always goes up when a stimulus is passed. That doesn't necessarily translate into economic recovery.
And when the money is spent, the incomes drop again.
You seriously don't know how this works do you? Stimuli in this case are temporary.
And since that is an indisputable fact, that only means the economic recovery will be too.
You think stimulus bills are some sort of permanent solution to our economic crises. The only permanent stimulus is a steady income, a job.
Please, continue demonstrating how clueless you are on this subject.
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Some local restaurants facing employee shortages
These restaurants believe people aren't applying because of stimulus checks.
www.wtap.com
I think you are totally misreading what Billy posts. He didn't advocate extending UI benefits forever simply to extend them.As you may have noticed, incomes rose in part because of the stimulus.I did read, and I just read the title.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Just read.
Consumer spending almost always goes up when a stimulus is passed. That doesn't necessarily translate into economic recovery.
And when the money is spent, the incomes drop again.
You seriously don't know how this works do you? Stimuli in this case are temporary.
And since that is an indisputable fact, that only means the economic recovery will be too.
You think stimulus bills are some sort of permanent solution to our economic crises. The only permanent stimulus is a steady income, a job.
Please, continue demonstrating how clueless you are on this subject.
The inference was made the moment Billy claimed the stimulus was the direct cause of the economic recovery.
The OP is NOT "a few employers on a statistical survey"But TK the facts are facts. Manchin (and me) were concerned that extending UI would cause more people to file until benefits were exhausted. Yet fewer people are filing for UI. The predicted cause-effect is not happening. We should be seeing people hanging onto benefits through Aug, but we aren't.If I’m right, I’m right.And yet the stimulus law is in full force.No. He has barely been in office for 3 1/2 months.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Regardless of why jobs are being created, the point of my thread is that those benefits are not discouraging seeking employment.
Nice deflection and dodge.
Hence the use of the word "regardless"
You are dismissed.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Take your pre-spun facts with you, too.
Just because you insist upon being right does not in fact make you right. There are business owners on this board who would swiftly disagree with your "facts".
Facts and experience are two different things, Billy. You don't have any experience whatsoever. You don't even ask these people, the people who are experiencing this first hand, what's actually happening on the ground.
So stuff it, hack.
As I said, facts do not tell the story of experience.
So no. I don't accept facts unless they are backed by the combined experiences of more than just a few employers on a statistical survey.
facts are stubborn things.
Well the stimulus IS the cause of the RECOVERy. Both gop and dems agree upon how an economy is restarted. LOL
- Thread starter
- #57
Dude incomes are incomes lol. They are what people are making from their jobs.As you may have noticed, incomes rose in part because of the stimulus.I did read, and I just read the title.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Just read.
Consumer spending almost always goes up when a stimulus is passed. That doesn't necessarily translate into economic recovery.
And when the money is spent, the incomes drop again.
You seriously don't know how this works do you? Stimuli in this case are temporary.
And since that is an indisputable fact, that only means the economic recovery will be too.
You think stimulus bills are some sort of permanent solution to our economic crises. The only permanent stimulus is a steady income, a job.
Please, continue demonstrating how clueless you are on this subject.
The OP is NOT "a few employers on a statistical survey"But TK the facts are facts. Manchin (and me) were concerned that extending UI would cause more people to file until benefits were exhausted. Yet fewer people are filing for UI. The predicted cause-effect is not happening. We should be seeing people hanging onto benefits through Aug, but we aren't.If I’m right, I’m right.And yet the stimulus law is in full force.No. He has barely been in office for 3 1/2 months.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Regardless of why jobs are being created, the point of my thread is that those benefits are not discouraging seeking employment.
Nice deflection and dodge.
Hence the use of the word "regardless"
You are dismissed.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Take your pre-spun facts with you, too.
Just because you insist upon being right does not in fact make you right. There are business owners on this board who would swiftly disagree with your "facts".
Facts and experience are two different things, Billy. You don't have any experience whatsoever. You don't even ask these people, the people who are experiencing this first hand, what's actually happening on the ground.
So stuff it, hack.
As I said, facts do not tell the story of experience.
So no. I don't accept facts unless they are backed by the combined experiences of more than just a few employers on a statistical survey.
facts are stubborn things.
So is reading comprehension.
Billy never claimed to be an employer.
Dude incomes are incomes lol. They are what people are making from their jobs.As you may have noticed, incomes rose in part because of the stimulus.I did read, and I just read the title.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Just read.
Consumer spending almost always goes up when a stimulus is passed. That doesn't necessarily translate into economic recovery.
And when the money is spent, the incomes drop again.
You seriously don't know how this works do you? Stimuli in this case are temporary.
And since that is an indisputable fact, that only means the economic recovery will be too.
You think stimulus bills are some sort of permanent solution to our economic crises. The only permanent stimulus is a steady income, a job.
Please, continue demonstrating how clueless you are on this subject.
Stimulus checks are not from a job, you idiot. They are direct disbursements from the government treasury. Taxpayer money.
I got a stimulus check, and I can guarantee you I didn't earn a dime of it.
- Thread starter
- #60
Hey moron, the checks are not obviously not what I was referring to. I was referring to JOBS.Dude incomes are incomes lol. They are what people are making from their jobs.As you may have noticed, incomes rose in part because of the stimulus.I did read, and I just read the title.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now? It’s ALL Trump’s doing? Somehow Biden’s stimulus means dick but the other two do. Oh gee how convenient. You couldn’t explain how if your life depended on it.Uhh it does actually. Unemployment benefits were in the stimulus law.That has nothing to do with Biden's policies.
Except Trump passed the first two stimulus laws. And the recovery began during HIS administration.
That law was only playing off the successes of the previous two.
Of course a key difference with the laws Trump signed off on is that his dumbass had nothing to do with their designs. Congress created them. Biden’s law, on the other hand, is his signature legislation.Lol so Biden gets no credit whatsoever for the economy now?
Why should he?
May 2009---According to Dems, economy was still Bushs
May 2016---According to Dems, economy was still Obamas
May 2021---Biden created a miracle...ALL HAIL BIDEN.Incomes, consumer spending soared in March as stimulus boosted economy
Consumer spending and personal income rose sharply in March, according to data released Friday by the Commerce Department, driven in part by President Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic relief bill.Per…thehill.com
Just read.
Consumer spending almost always goes up when a stimulus is passed. That doesn't necessarily translate into economic recovery.
And when the money is spent, the incomes drop again.
You seriously don't know how this works do you? Stimuli in this case are temporary.
And since that is an indisputable fact, that only means the economic recovery will be too.
You think stimulus bills are some sort of permanent solution to our economic crises. The only permanent stimulus is a steady income, a job.
Please, continue demonstrating how clueless you are on this subject.
Stimulus checks are not from a job, you idiot. They are direct disbursements from the government treasury. Taxpayer money.
I got a stimulus check, and I can guarantee you I didn't earn a dime of it.
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