The Condemned - Indonesia

[Indofred]

Have a list.
You'll see most of your drug dealing bastards were left to rot slowly, not executed as they should have been.

List of Australians imprisoned or executed abroad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[bianco]

Anti-Australian sentiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indonesia and Anti-Australian sentiment[edit]
Indonesia has been alleged to have a rise in "anti-Australian sentiment" over any suggestion of Australia interfering with its internal affairs.[4]
A 2003 study on Indonesian aspirants for a diplomatic position reported that 95% of them had Anti-Australian sentiment.[5]
The Post-Suharto era period also saw Anti-Australian sentiment in Indonesia over East Timor.[6] In Indonesia this relates to generalized Anti-Western sentiment.

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No great surprise.
You wouldn't have to be Einstein to see it.

All Australian aid to Indonesia should've been stopped decades ago.
Australian citizens should've been banned from travelling there, the phone should've been cut off, and Indonesia's embassies in Australia demolished.

 

[theliq]

Anti-Australian sentiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indonesia and Anti-Australian sentiment[edit]
Indonesia has been alleged to have a rise in "anti-Australian sentiment" over any suggestion of Australia interfering with its internal affairs.[4]
A 2003 study on Indonesian aspirants for a diplomatic position reported that 95% of them had Anti-Australian sentiment.[5]
The Post-Suharto era period also saw Anti-Australian sentiment in Indonesia over East Timor.[6] In Indonesia this relates to generalized Anti-Western sentiment.

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No great surprise.
You wouldn't have to be Einstein to see it.

All Australian aid to Indonesia should've been stopped decades ago.
Australian citizens should've been banned from travelling there, the phone should've been cut off, and Indonesia's embassies in Australia demolished.

Are you Crackers or what.......2003 ain't 2013 we have both moved on and get on well with Indonesia and everyone else,by your analogy we then should hate the Japanese etc,. sorry but we live for the future,not dwell on the past.

Australia...GREAT ONE DAY...........BRILLIANT THE NEXT. Of course it issteven

 

[Indofred]

No no no.

Hate come first and stick understanding up your arses.
We must hate, kill, despise and generally make as many enemies as possible.

Oddly enough, those sentiments are all coming from the pro human rights posters.
What a silly old world we live in.

 

[irosie91]

Indonesia is being painted as a hell hole, full of extremist Muslims out for blood.
Of course, there are a few thousand extremists Muslims, some out for blood but the vast majority are not even close to that picture.
You'll notice on the first page, Muslims visiting the Buddhist temples; far from the version some would have you believe.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/general-global-topics/236791-page-47-and-a-strange-fruit.html

So? there were lots of nice Germans in 1942 too.
There were lots of nice Catholics in Spain in 1492

 

[bianco]

Are you Crackers or what.......2003 ain't 2013 we have both moved on and get on well with Indonesia

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We have?
We do?
Not according to talk-back radio.

Indonesia has sentenced two of our children to death, and has them on death row awaiting execution-shredding in the jungle.
People-smuggling boats are leaving Indonesia for Australia every other day.

Australia gets on well with Indonesia whilever Australia is a doormat and licks Indonesia's boots.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott defends policy to turn boats back after Indonesian MP sais it was 'offensive' | News.com.au

Prime Minister Tony Abbott defends policy to turn boats back after Indonesian MP said it was 'offensive'

Prime Minister Tony Abbott insists he respects Indonesia's sovereignty after an Indonesian MP condemned his plan to turn back asylum seeker boats as illegal and offensive.

Tantowi Yahya is a member of the Indonesian Foreign Affairs Commission and said the first he and his colleagues knew of Prime Minister Tony Abbott's Operation Sovereign Borders was when it appeared in newspapers.

"It's very offensive," he told ABC TV, adding there was consensus between Indonesia's government and parliament not to agree with the coalition's plans.

"What Australia should do right now in relation (to) asylum seekers is sit with any countries that will be involved in this issue ... and we have to fight against it in the spirit of friends."



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Talk, talk, talk...that's all Indonesia does...and the boats keep coming.
Indonesia could stop them if it wanted to...it has all those patrol boats Australia gave it, and that it's not using south of Indonesia to stop the boats.

The time for talk is over...Australia has a new 'king'...and there's a new order in place...no more boot licking.

 

[Indofred]

Indonesia is being painted as a hell hole, full of extremist Muslims out for blood.
Of course, there are a few thousand extremists Muslims, some out for blood but the vast majority are not even close to that picture.
You'll notice on the first page, Muslims visiting the Buddhist temples; far from the version some would have you believe.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/general-global-topics/236791-page-47-and-a-strange-fruit.html

So? there were lots of nice Germans in 1942 too.
There were lots of nice Catholics in Spain in 1492

So the vast majority of Indonesians are perfectly nice people.
The OP is painting Indonesia as full of evil bastards but that simply isn't true.

Spain and the Inquisition is probably a good example but Indonesia has hardly gone that far; not that the extremists don't want it.
A small number of bastards gained power and proceeded to force their stupid ideals of hate, bigotry and cruelty on the whole country.
Ironically, the OP and his equally stupid ideals regarding drugs are exactly the same.
The OP believes his ideals should be forced onto others, with threats of violence if they aren't accepted.

 

[Indofred]

Talk, talk, talk...that's all Indonesia does...and the boats keep coming.
Indonesia could stop them if it wanted to...it has all those patrol boats Australia gave it, and that it's not using south of Indonesia to stop the boats.

The time for talk is over...Australia has a new 'king'...and there's a new order in place...no more boot licking.

You make it sound as if the boats are full of Indonesians - this isn't the case at all.
Indonesia is a stepping stone and one where these people aren't exactly welcomed. Most avoid Indonesia for that reason and never land on Indonesian soil.

Asylum Seekers in Australia - CrowdVoice.org

 

[bianco]

The crews are Indonesians...who should be tossed in prison for 20 years, like Schapelle Corby was.
bianco-ilk would go down to the courthouse and cheer with every twenty year sentence handed down to them.
As Indonesians did outside the Bali courthouse on Schapelle's sentencing day.

"Twenty years"! the judge shouted out...the local crowd outside erupted in delirious jubilation.
...after other judges had shouted at her with fire eyes of hatred, as she sat alone on the chair, made her cry.
Yes, good at verbally abusing women...not much good when armed men arrive though.

Some boats arrive from Sri Lanka...land at different islands from all the hundreds of boats arriving at Christmas Island from Indonesia.
The illegals fly into Indonesia from Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc, then board the virtual taxi service boats from Java etc bound for Australia and the welfare system gravy train for life.

...and the Indonesian Navy and govt see nothing...just like 'Sgt Schultz'.

In fact it's alleged that the Indon cops and army drive the illegals to the boats.

 

[Vikrant]

Indonesia has a better overall record than Australia on human rights. There is no doubt about it. Still, Australia has moral right to intervene on behalf of its citizens to protect their human rights provided Australia has the resources.

 

[Indofred]

The crews are Indonesians...who should be tossed in prison for 20 years, like Schapelle Corby was.

I agree.
People smuggling is a nasty game, extremely dangerous and commonly leads to death and misery.
I would go further and condemn crews who's actions cause death, to face a firing squad.

 

[Indofred]

Indonesia has a better overall record than Australia on human rights. There is no doubt about it. Still, Australia has moral right to intervene on behalf of its citizens to protect their human rights provided Australia has the resources.

Australia does intervene and, on many occasions, has saved its murderers from the death they deserve.
However, unlike some posters on here, they aren't stupid enough to make war on a country to save their scumbags.
Apart from decent Australians getting killed to protect killers, Australia is far better off without these turds anyway.... as is the whole world.

 

[bianco]

Indonesia has a better overall record than Australia on human rights. There is no doubt about it. Still, Australia has moral right to intervene on behalf of its citizens to protect their human rights provided Australia has the resources.

Australia does intervene and, on many occasions, has saved its murderers from the death they deserve.
However, unlike some posters on here, they aren't stupid enough to make war on a country to save their scumbags.
Apart from decent Australians getting killed to protect killers, Australia is far better off without these turds anyway.... as is the whole world.

Wars can be waged without guns and bullets.

 

[bianco]

The crews are Indonesians...who should be tossed in prison for 20 years, like Schapelle Corby was.

I agree.
People smuggling is a nasty game, extremely dangerous and commonly leads to death and misery.
I would go further and condemn crews who's actions cause death, to face a firing squad.

Indonesia says of the people smuggling crews from Indonesia.

"They're only poor fishermen who didn't know what they were doing".

 

[theliq]

The crews are Indonesians...who should be tossed in prison for 20 years, like Schapelle Corby was.
bianco-ilk would go down to the courthouse and cheer with every twenty year sentence handed down to them.
As Indonesians did outside the Bali courthouse on Schapelle's sentencing day.

"Twenty years"! the judge shouted out...the local crowd outside erupted in delirious jubilation.
...after other judges had shouted at her with fire eyes of hatred, as she sat alone on the chair, made her cry.
Yes, good at verbally abusing women...not much good when armed men arrive though.

Some boats arrive from Sri Lanka...land at different islands from all the hundreds of boats arriving at Christmas Island from Indonesia.
The illegals fly into Indonesia from Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc, then board the virtual taxi service boats from Java etc bound for Australia and the welfare system gravy train for life.

...and the Indonesian Navy and govt see nothing...just like 'Sgt Schultz'.

In fact it's alleged that the Indon cops and army drive the illegals to the boats.[/

..where you from Bianco ???steve

 

[bianco]

..where you from Bianco ???steve

Look top right corner in my posts ...'location;Sydney Australia'

 

[Indofred]

The crews are Indonesians...who should be tossed in prison for 20 years, like Schapelle Corby was.

I agree.
People smuggling is a nasty game, extremely dangerous and commonly leads to death and misery.
I would go further and condemn crews who's actions cause death, to face a firing squad.

Indonesia says of the people smuggling crews from Indonesia.

"They're only poor fishermen who didn't know what they were doing".

Not much of an excuse.
The fishermen here tend to be very poorly educated and have little by way of much but people smuggling is pretty vile and exploits desperation for cash. Usually as much as they refugees have or, in the case of many groups, far more.
I had a pretty good insight into the Chinese snakehead smugglers and what they do so I can assure you, these people are not nice and deserve punishment.
A few fishermen may well be doing this because they earn little and are paid slightly better by people smuggling refugees but they aren't the problem; the bosses who are earning big money from this nasty trade, are and must be caught, tried and punished.

If they're gone, the trade will dry up.

 

[bianco]

Indonesia has arrested 3 people smugglers recently, with 500 asylum-seekers/economic migrants prevented from leaving Indonesia for Australia.

Marvellous what effect what a little tough love can have.

 

[theliq]

Are you Crackers or what.......2003 ain't 2013 we have both moved on and get on well with Indonesia

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We have?
We do?
Not according to talk-back radio.

Indonesia has sentenced two of our children to death, and has them on death row awaiting execution-shredding in the jungle.
People-smuggling boats are leaving Indonesia for Australia every other day.

Australia gets on well with Indonesia whilever Australia is a doormat and licks Indonesia's boots.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott defends policy to turn boats back after Indonesian MP sais it was 'offensive' | News.com.au

Prime Minister Tony Abbott defends policy to turn boats back after Indonesian MP said it was 'offensive'

Prime Minister Tony Abbott insists he respects Indonesia's sovereignty after an Indonesian MP condemned his plan to turn back asylum seeker boats as illegal and offensive.

Tantowi Yahya is a member of the Indonesian Foreign Affairs Commission and said the first he and his colleagues knew of Prime Minister Tony Abbott's Operation Sovereign Borders was when it appeared in newspapers.

"It's very offensive," he told ABC TV, adding there was consensus between Indonesia's government and parliament not to agree with the coalition's plans.

"What Australia should do right now in relation (to) asylum seekers is sit with any countries that will be involved in this issue ... and we have to fight against it in the spirit of friends."



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Talk, talk, talk...that's all Indonesia does...and the boats keep coming.
Indonesia could stop them if it wanted to...it has all those patrol boats Australia gave it, and that it's not using south of Indonesia to stop the boats.

The time for talk is over...Australia has a new 'king'...and there's a new order in place...no more boot licking.

A New "King" big talk Bull Shit artist in opposition,and obsequious lap dog with Indonesians as PM,Sly non reporting of Boat Arrivals.....now worse than under labour.

Shock Jocks those Scum Bag Racists for Scum Bag Racist Listeners.

New Order you reckon......You Will See.

Trouble with you is that you,do not represent Australians,only the few greedy,selfish,idiots that we have to put up with...Groan.

 

[bianco]

Are you Crackers or what.......2003 ain't 2013 we have both moved on and get on well with Indonesia

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We have?
We do?
Not according to talk-back radio.

Indonesia has sentenced two of our children to death, and has them on death row awaiting execution-shredding in the jungle.
People-smuggling boats are leaving Indonesia for Australia every other day.

Australia gets on well with Indonesia whilever Australia is a doormat and licks Indonesia's boots.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott defends policy to turn boats back after Indonesian MP sais it was 'offensive' | News.com.au

Prime Minister Tony Abbott defends policy to turn boats back after Indonesian MP said it was 'offensive'

Prime Minister Tony Abbott insists he respects Indonesia's sovereignty after an Indonesian MP condemned his plan to turn back asylum seeker boats as illegal and offensive.

Tantowi Yahya is a member of the Indonesian Foreign Affairs Commission and said the first he and his colleagues knew of Prime Minister Tony Abbott's Operation Sovereign Borders was when it appeared in newspapers.

"It's very offensive," he told ABC TV, adding there was consensus between Indonesia's government and parliament not to agree with the coalition's plans.

"What Australia should do right now in relation (to) asylum seekers is sit with any countries that will be involved in this issue ... and we have to fight against it in the spirit of friends."



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Talk, talk, talk...that's all Indonesia does...and the boats keep coming.
Indonesia could stop them if it wanted to...it has all those patrol boats Australia gave it, and that it's not using south of Indonesia to stop the boats.

The time for talk is over...Australia has a new 'king'...and there's a new order in place...no more boot licking.

A New "King" big talk Bull Shit artist in opposition,and obsequious lap dog with Indonesians as PM,Sly non reporting of Boat Arrivals.....now worse than under labour.

Shock Jocks those Scum Bag Racists for Scum Bag Racist Listeners.

New Order you reckon......You Will See.

Trouble with you is that you,do not represent Australians,only the few greedy,selfish,idiots that we have to put up with...Groan.

When dealing with Indonesia one must play the diplomacy game ... in public.
Can't be travelling to Indonesia to meet the head honchos and start throwing one's weight around on their soil.
Best to be nice, polite, diplomatic, advise them what you're thinking, and try to persuade them to see things your way.

The new 'king', Tony, was just elected by the vast majority of "We the People".
That's vast majority.
Why?
To stop the people-smuggling boats!
He's not hiding anything...just having weekly briefings for the media.
He's appointed the 3 star general to oversee his Operation Sovereign Borders policy...weekly briefings are part of that policy.