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There were several hidden gems in the 2010 Obamacare Act. I think we’ve all seen how our premiums have taken off, or the fact that our doctors were smart and either went into concierge medicine or stopped accepting your crappy insurance. But now, it seems like the wizards of wellness that were released with this monstrosity want to regulate your pizza.
Yep. On May 7th all businesses that sell food and have 20 or more locations to post calories in a place where their customers can see them. The FDA thinks it’s a great idea for these calories to be put on the walls of the establishment.
Why? Why do businesses have to go to all this trouble and expense to post the nutrition info on their delicious, affordable food? Because the nanny state demands it. You see, the nanny state wants to nudge you into different behaviors. Therefore, if the nutrition information is posted on the wall, you might see that the #2 Combo at Whataburger will probably take up most of your caloric intake for the day. If you have that info, the nanny staters say, you will make healthier choices. Because you’re fat and too stupid to realize that eating that double meat double cheese with bacon and extra large fries is causing you to be fat.
The regulation requires that the nutrition info be posted in stores, which is problematic for at least one major category of fast food—pizza.
Think about it—Domino’s estimates that there are 34 MILLION different combinations available to their customers. The government wants the person who walks into the Domino’s store to be able to see EXACTLY how many calories their 16 inch hand tossed crust with extra sauce, four kinds of cheese, green peppers, olives, and every meat known to a delicatessen will set them back. That kind of info has to be posted for every combination. In the store.
But, the FDA is refusing to look at reality here. According to one Domino’s franchisee who owns 18 stores, 90% of his customers don’t come into his store at all. They either order on-line, through the app, or occasionally call. They. Do. Not. Come. In. The. Store. So, they won’t have access to all this nanny state goodness.
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Do not worry though. The left wing rich white elitists can have all of the cheese they want. Just like THEY can live behind walls. Just like THEY can be protected by guns. Just like THEY can have enormous carbon footprints.
However, the middle class cannot.
And idiot RWNJs will celebrate that they no longer know what they're feeding their kids.
Information.Your wrong. Anyone who is trying to lose weight wants to know the calorie content of what they are eating. It is part of the entire package of information to help weight loss.There is nothing wrong with pizza and it can have healthy ingredients and it helps to build that pizza if the consumer is informed of the choices and the specific details of the ingredients..
Not everyone in the world has access to the internet..
You don't need access to the internet if you have common sense. Most Republicans have it but only a few Democrats do.
I know what's in a pizza for crying out loud. I know the amount of calories they have and affects to the body. But for the life of me, I never heard one story about a fat person getting skinny because the government forced restaurants to post calorie count on their items. All it is is an expense to the businesses that they didn't need, and of course, what us consumers ultimately pay for. They have to change their wall menus, their table menus, have to hire labs or agencies to figure out what each item contains, and for what? Nothing.
Where the real money is spent is people still breast feeding off of the government because they can't feed themselves.
Which has what to do with laws mandating that the information be provided in a specific place, in a specific way?
In other words, you have nothing. You just assume the information is not now available, and will not be available without this law.
Sorry, but that isn't good enough. Show me that this information is not already easily available, and that this law is required for some measurable net improvement. Your assumptions that this is the case will not work.
I think the mandated nutritional posters should also have pictures of aborted fetuses. Kill two birds with one stone. So to speak.
Well, if the goal is to make people lose weight, that would certainly kill their appetites.
My less-than-subtle point was that this is the same kind of busybody legislation as rules requiring 'counseling', or whatever, to ensure that a woman is 'fully informed' before having an abortion. It's the same dynamic: they'd like to make something illegal outright (abortion, gluttony, etc ..) but they can't, so they try to use regulation to pursue the change that they want to force on society.
And idiot RWNJs will celebrate that they no longer know what they're feeding their kids.
And libertarians will celebrate because government has better things to do than telling us how to eat.
But you are advocating a nanny state, simply because you like this regulation.Indeed. We need to get the police involved in this. We need laws requiring that each citizen keep a food intake log that can be spot checked by dietary agents.
Is that what I said? No.
No, I'm simply saying people should be informed so they can make an informed decision they still have the freedom to decide. If after so warned they choose to eat a triple bacon cheeseburger with chili cheese fries and a XL Coke well that's their choice. We provide warning information on many products that may harm you and consuming meals that are north of 3,500 calories will harm you.
And we're simply saying that you're conflating "info should be available" and "therefore, the government must mandate it".
What is it with leftists that they can't stop doing this?
Do you think Red Lobster is going to voluntarily tell customers their dinner is 3,500 calories? Just being realistic.
And idiot RWNJs will celebrate that they no longer know what they're feeding their kids.
And libertarians will celebrate because government has better things to do than telling us how to eat.
You didn't read the OP.
That's not what the reg does.
Sheesh. You guys are really working hard. Desperate much?
And idiot RWNJs will celebrate that they no longer know what they're feeding their kids.
And libertarians will celebrate because government has better things to do than telling us how to eat.
You didn't read the OP.
That's not what the reg does.
Sheesh. You guys are really working hard. Desperate much?
No, I did read the OP. You are simply dodging. The entire point of these laws are to change our eating habits via the law. Do you deny that?
Why does the right always disagree with something as basic as knowing what they eat and drink?
You can CHOOSE to change or not. You can CHOOSE to educate yourself or not. But, why shouldn't I have the right to know what I'm eating? Why are you so against that?
There is nothing wrong with pizza and it can have healthy ingredients and it helps to build that pizza if the consumer is informed of the choices and the specific details of the ingredients..No the govt. is not protecting people from themselves since the pizza joint is not owned by the customer...There is no such thing as a free society....That's what you think the job of the federal government is, to protect people from themselves?
Maybe in a dictatorship or Communist country, but not in a free society. Our founders wrote what the duties of the federal government were, and not one was written on their responsibility to tell you WTF to eat.
Not if left to the Democrats there isn't.
The pizza joint doesn't have to be owned by the people to realize pizza is not the most healthy thing for you to eat. We have the internet now, and you can get that information anytime you need or want it.
Not everyone in the world has access to the internet..
Additionally, a new co-worker of mine has an allergy to fish. Turns out that fish by-products are found in a surprising number of items such as some Yogurts for example. So she has to be mindful of the ingredients, if the fried wings are cooked in the same oil they use for the fried fish, etc..
And it's impossible for her to access that information without the government mandating that reams of information be dumped on EVERY consumer, whether they want it or not? If that's really your premise, you'd best be prepared to prove it.
RWs like dblack believe we should just trust that Mr. Businessman has our best interests at heart and would gladly give up some profit if it benefits their customers.
I believe we have the right to know what we're eating, drinking, breathing ...
There is nothing wrong with pizza and it can have healthy ingredients and it helps to build that pizza if the consumer is informed of the choices and the specific details of the ingredients..No the govt. is not protecting people from themselves since the pizza joint is not owned by the customer...There is no such thing as a free society....
Not if left to the Democrats there isn't.
The pizza joint doesn't have to be owned by the people to realize pizza is not the most healthy thing for you to eat. We have the internet now, and you can get that information anytime you need or want it.
Not everyone in the world has access to the internet..
Additionally, a new co-worker of mine has an allergy to fish. Turns out that fish by-products are found in a surprising number of items such as some Yogurts for example. So she has to be mindful of the ingredients, if the fried wings are cooked in the same oil they use for the fried fish, etc..
And it's impossible for her to access that information without the government mandating that reams of information be dumped on EVERY consumer, whether they want it or not? If that's really your premise, you'd best be prepared to prove it.
Yeah, too much information is a big burden. You really should think before you type.
RWs like dblack believe we should just trust that Mr. Businessman has our best interests at heart and would gladly give up some profit if it benefits their customers.
Nope. Buyer beware. I just don't think we should trust the government to decide which businesses we're allowed to patronize.
I believe we have the right to know what we're eating, drinking, breathing ...
You do have have that right. But you make the usual mistake of assuming that means that someone else must provide that knowledge for you.
Socialism destroys everything it touch... factThere is nothing wrong with pizza and it can have healthy ingredients and it helps to build that pizza if the consumer is informed of the choices and the specific details of the ingredients..Not if left to the Democrats there isn't.
The pizza joint doesn't have to be owned by the people to realize pizza is not the most healthy thing for you to eat. We have the internet now, and you can get that information anytime you need or want it.
Not everyone in the world has access to the internet..
You don't need access to the internet if you have common sense. Most Republicans have it but only a few Democrats do.
I know what's in a pizza for crying out loud. I know the amount of calories they have and affects to the body. But for the life of me, I never heard one story about a fat person getting skinny because the government forced restaurants to post calorie count on their items. All it is is an expense to the businesses that they didn't need, and of course, what us consumers ultimately pay for. They have to change their wall menus, their table menus, have to hire labs or agencies to figure out what each item contains, and for what? Nothing.
Where the real money is spent is people still breast feeding off of the government because they can't feed themselves.
How do you get from restaurants posting ingredients or calorie counts on their menus to “the government is telling you what to eat”?
Then you say that you thought car dealers posted mileage on the windows as a sales gimmick. Bet yo thought they never rolled the mileage back either.
And it’s just common sense that pizza is bad for you. It’s not common sense at all. It’s based on knowledge of which foods are high in fat or sugar, which are highly processed and what the ratios are. There’s a fair amount of technical knowledge required.
As for the cost of restaurants providing the information, it’s very cheap for the chain to do that. They all have set menus and test kitchens. And they have a head chef who sets the menu. They know from the get go what the ingredients and caloric values are but they haven’t been publishing it. The only change is that they’re now putting it on the menus at the next printing.
Ray, you go on and on about common sense as it you had it. You don’t have the good sense God have a goose.
Oh please. You mean to tell me that you don't know a Whopper combo with onion rings is fattening?
You may like waking up in bed with government every day and going to sleep the same, but as for the rest of us, the less government in our lives, the better.
How is having nutritional information readily available on the food you’re buying “waking up in bed every day with the government”? If you aren’t interested in this information, ignore it.
I don’t eat crap from Burger King or McDonalds and I’m not overweight but I find the information posted in the stores very useful. Why does this piss you off so very much.
The US has the highest rate of obesity in the world. Children growing up in America are eating so poorly that their life expectancy is going down. So this information isn’t a matter of “common sense”. This will lead to increased medical costs, reduced productivity and a shortened working lives, all of which will have a huge impact on the economy.
It never ceases to amaze me how invested some right wingers are in hating on stupid shit that has no effect on their lives at all, while utterly ignoring The big stuff which will directly impact your wallet.
How do you think people got along before that info was at their fingertips?But you are advocating a nanny state, simply because you like this regulation.Is that what I said? No.
No, I'm simply saying people should be informed so they can make an informed decision they still have the freedom to decide. If after so warned they choose to eat a triple bacon cheeseburger with chili cheese fries and a XL Coke well that's their choice. We provide warning information on many products that may harm you and consuming meals that are north of 3,500 calories will harm you.
And we're simply saying that you're conflating "info should be available" and "therefore, the government must mandate it".
What is it with leftists that they can't stop doing this?
Do you think Red Lobster is going to voluntarily tell customers their dinner is 3,500 calories? Just being realistic.
How do you think people got along before that info was at their fingertips?But you are advocating a nanny state, simply because you like this regulation.
No, I'm simply saying people should be informed so they can make an informed decision they still have the freedom to decide. If after so warned they choose to eat a triple bacon cheeseburger with chili cheese fries and a XL Coke well that's their choice. We provide warning information on many products that may harm you and consuming meals that are north of 3,500 calories will harm you.
And we're simply saying that you're conflating "info should be available" and "therefore, the government must mandate it".
What is it with leftists that they can't stop doing this?
Do you think Red Lobster is going to voluntarily tell customers their dinner is 3,500 calories? Just being realistic.
- More than 40 percent of 16 to 19-year-olds are obese and 36% of adults are obese.
- Over 100 million Americans have diabetes or pre-diabetes. Diabetes was the seventh leading cause of death in the United States and cost us $327 billion in 2017 alone.
Oh. So Dominoes has already posted this information?I don't understand why some folks are so opposed to believing people can and will do things without Mommy Government forcing them to.
There is nothing wrong with pizza and it can have healthy ingredients and it helps to build that pizza if the consumer is informed of the choices and the specific details of the ingredients..No the govt. is not protecting people from themselves since the pizza joint is not owned by the customer...There is no such thing as a free society....
Not if left to the Democrats there isn't.
The pizza joint doesn't have to be owned by the people to realize pizza is not the most healthy thing for you to eat. We have the internet now, and you can get that information anytime you need or want it.
Not everyone in the world has access to the internet..
Additionally, a new co-worker of mine has an allergy to fish. Turns out that fish by-products are found in a surprising number of items such as some Yogurts for example. So she has to be mindful of the ingredients, if the fried wings are cooked in the same oil they use for the fried fish, etc..
And it's impossible for her to access that information without the government mandating that reams of information be dumped on EVERY consumer, whether they want it or not? If that's really your premise, you'd best be prepared to prove it.
Yeah, too much information is a big burden. You really should think before you type.
