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I've explained this many times already. I cannot help it if your intellect is limited to 8 word fortune cookie sentences.How do you envision that happening, and what role would YOU be willing to play?
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I've explained this many times already. I cannot help it if your intellect is limited to 8 word fortune cookie sentences.How do you envision that happening, and what role would YOU be willing to play?
No one is buying the horseshit that the Soviet Union wasn't communist/socialist. How do you put everyone in a cooperative without taking their property first?
Oh but there IS a place for it! It's in Washington, D.C. where it landed in January.There is absolutely no place in the 21st century for communism. None.
It is time the entire international community ban together and permanently remove Xi Jinping and the CCP from power.
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Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (someone should teach you how to use Google).
But that aside sweetie…quick lesson on propaganda. As you can see with North Korea here, dictators and oppressive governments employ tactics to make themselves look better - not worse, dummy
A capitalist, free society would not call themselves communists in an attempt to “trick” the world.
Wrong it is a relatively new idea. A political ideology invented in the 19th cenury and based on tyranny and slavery.
It is not as some people believe some idea of communal living.
The employer does not dictate those things the market does.
A wealthy minority forcing things on everyone else, is not communism.
That is capitalism.
All monarchs, dictators, feudal baron, etc., in all of history are all out for their own profit, so are capitalists.
Communism may put the means of production into a cooperative, but it has to be for the benefit of all to do that.
If it is just to benefit a few, that is capitalism.
Communism is at its heart old fashioned totalitarian dictatorship
No society is "free" from the laws of nature, but that's exactly what you mean by a "free society."Capitalist call their system a "free society" when it clearly isn't, so they will call it anything they think will help make them more wealthy.
The reality is that any capitalist society is never free, and in fact is always the most repressive and costly.
That is the whole point of capitalism, the most profits for a few.
I'm pleased you cleared that up.
Why are republicans so against the CCP if they are not communist any more?
Why does America invade countries like Vietnam and Iraq trying to democratize them?
No society is "free" from the laws of nature, but that's exactly what you mean by a "free society."
Painful experience has proven that communism is the most repressive kind of society there is.
In fact it was gough Whitlam from Australia who was there before Nixon.Republicans would be against anyone they can't make a profit from
But republicans are not against the CCP, and if you remember, it was Nixon who opened up western trade to China.
America invades countries like Vietnam and Iraq because the US arms dealers want war profits.
We never wanted democracies in any other country.
We tried to destroy democracy in Vietnam and installed a series of brutal dictators, like Diem, Theiu, Ky, etc.
We installed a religious Shiite dictatorship in Iraq.
china is opposed in USA because they're a competitor that is expected to overtake US economy in year 2032.
As for invading other countries to democratize them, thats just a façade to justify attacking a perceived threat. Iraq was a threat to its neighbors. Vietnam was just fear of communism 50 years ago. But today there are six billionaires in Vietnam, and China has nearly 700 billionaires.
In fact it was gough Whitlam from Australia who was there before Nixon.
If republicans don't mind CCP, why are you all demanding an inquiry, fearful of the a communist takeover and generally hate them. Don't give me tgatcrap that you love them. Fuck off. You're my Iying.
You went into Iraq to secure the oil because Saddam was putting it on the market cheaper than anyone because America placed sanctions on him.
You know nothing.
You went into Vietnam to stop the north vietnamese who were communist,from invading them. It was a democracy but You obviously didn't know that.
Clearly you have no idea. Instead of having a wild swing at me because you don't like criticism, go and get some facts. You're a fool
That’s not an answer.I've explained this many times already. I cannot help it if your intellect is limited to 8 word fortune cookie sentences.
How could an Australian lift US economic sanctions on China?
Clearly it was Nixon who did that, and it turned out terribly.
We blockaded Saddam and would not let him sell any oil except a small amount that we would exchange for food.
The program was called OFF, Oil For Food.
South Vietnam was not a democracy. It originally was under Bau Dai, but we encouraged the military to over throw the democracy and establish Diem as a dictator in 1955, later Theiu and Ky were also military dictators. When we were there, South Vietnam was always a dictatorship.
The Australian didn't lift US sanctions.
Many governments were allied to the US and told to not trade with them.
Whitlam said fuck the Americans and went and traded with them before Nixon who eventually realised the country wouldn't collapse if they did also.
Saddam. You sanctioned him and he also said fuck America, I'll sell my oil where I like. Rumsfeld, rice and Cheney with their oil investments didn't like that so convinced GWB to go and kill him.
They first thing Saddam did was light all the oil wells. Does that ring a bell dickhead?. The first priority was to extinguish them. Are you warming up to it now?
In fact, oil was stolen from Iraq by Bush and taken to the gulf if Mexico and redeposited into empty wells. Never mind helping the remaining Iraqis rebuilt their economy. No siree. Steal as much oil as we can.
We did not invade VIetnamI'm pleased you cleared that up.
Why are republicans so against the CCP if they are not communist any more?
Why does America invade countries like Vietnam and Iraq trying to democratize them?
Quite wrong.Not true,
Communism is as old as human society.
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Many historical groups have been considered as following forms of communism. Karl Marx and other early communist theorists believed that hunter-gatherer societies as were found in the Paleolithic through to horticultural societies as found in the Chalcolithic were essentially egalitarian and he, therefore, termed their ideology to be primitive communism.[8] One of the first writers to espouse a belief in the primitive communism of the past was the Roman Stoic philosopher Seneca who stated," How happy was the primitive age when the bounties of nature lay in common...They held all nature in common which gave them secure possession of the public wealth."[9] Because of this he believed that such primitive societies were the richest as there was no poverty.[9] Other Greco-Roman writers that believed in a prehistoric humanity that practiced communism include Diodorus Siculus, Virgil, and Ovid.[10] Similarly the early Church Fathers, like their pagan predecessors, maintained that humans society had declined to its current state from a now lost egalitarian social order.[11]
Around the late 5th century BC in Ancient Greece, ideas similar to communism were becoming widespread to the extent that they were parodied by the dramatist Aristophanes in his comedy The Assemblywomen in which the women of Athens seize control of the Ecclesia or city government and abolish all private property while making the sharing or women and the collective rearing of children mandatory.[12] Over a decade later in Plato's Republic Socrates declares that an ideal state would eliminate all forms of private property among the elite of society to the extent that even children and wives are shared.[13][14] He asserts that such practices would prevent internal conflict within a society and promote a sense of unity and common identity.[15] Around AD 500 in Iran, the Zoroastrian priest and reformist Mazdak purportedly founded a movement preaching religious communism while under the patronage of the Sassanian King Kavad I who initially supported the priest and his reforms, but later had the Mazdakians repressed and Mazdak executed.[16]
Developments in Christian communism
Main articles: Christian communism and Communalism
Early Christianity supported a form of common ownership based on the teachings in the New Testament which emphasised sharing.[11] For example, in the Book of Acts the passages Acts 2:44-45 and Acts 4:32-45 state all believers held their possessions communally and would distribute goods based on need.[17] Additionally, the related Jewish sect known as the Essenes was committed to, "social and material egalitarianism."[18] Despite these practices falling into decline even before the era of Constantine, the principles of sharing property and holding goods in common continued within the Christian traditions of monasticism.[11][18]
From the High Middle Ages to the early modern period in Europe, various groups supporting Christian communist and communalist ideas were occasionally adopted by reformist Christian sects. An early 12th century proto-protestant group originating in Lyon, Kingdom of Burgundy-Arles known as the Waldensians held their property in common in accordance with the Book of Acts, but were persecuted by the Catholic Church and retreated to the Piedmont.[19] Around 1300 the Apostolic Brethren in northern Italy were taken over by Fra Dolcino who formed a sect known as the Dulcinians which advocated ending feudalism, dissolving hierarchies in the church, and holding all property in common.[19] The 14th century English scholastic and founder of Lollardy, John Wycliffe, preached of an idealized Christian state with collective ownership and disapproved of those rejecting the, "common charity and common property of Christian men."[20][21][22]:54 Around the same time the revolutionary priest John Ball, who was later executed for his prominent role in the doomed Wat Tyler Rebellion allegedly declared, "things cannot go well in England, nor ever will, until all goods are held in common."[23]
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History of communism - Wikipedia
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All hunter/gatherer tribes are always communist.
Yes indedd the market forces employers what to do/.No, the market does not decide what an employer wants to do.
The employer has to decide, based on things like expertise, long term stability vs quick maximum profits, business resale, etc.
When ever someone makes a new market like they have for EVs, that is not dictated by the market, but instead takes years of marketing in order to create the market for it.