The CCP must be removed

[bripat9643]

Nonsense.
First of all, Russia was never communist, and second is that communism never threatened anyone because it is communal, cooperative, and collaborative. Can't get any better than that. It is capitalism that is a danger. Hitler was a huge capitalist, for example.

No one is buying the horseshit that the Soviet Union wasn't communist/socialist. How do you put everyone in a cooperative without taking their property first?

 

[P@triot]

You left out a whole bunch of stuff.

Sensei Snowflake doing what he does best. Fortune Cookie posts. Always one (very short) sentence containing 8 or less words, of absolutely zero value.

Note how Sensei Snowflake here doesn’t post what was left out. Too lazy. Too ignorant. Nobody add less value to this board than this tool. Nobody.

 

[P@triot]

What does DPRK stand for?

Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (someone should teach you how to use Google).

But that aside sweetie…quick lesson on propaganda. As you can see with North Korea here, dictators and oppressive governments employ tactics to make themselves look better - not worse, dummy

A capitalist, free society would not call themselves communists in an attempt to “trick” the world.

 

[Mac-7]

No one is buying the horseshit that the Soviet Union wasn't communist/socialist.

Thats just marxist libs rewriting history

 

[postman]

A capitalist, free society would not call themselves communists in an attempt to “trick” the world.

Yet we call ourselves the "UNITED" states of America, yet we haven't been this divided since the Civil War.

 

[bripat9643]

Yet we call ourselves the "UNITED" states of America, yet we haven't been this divided since the Civil War.

That's the official name of our country, moron. It's not a slogan.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Communism has been around for millions of years, and without it humans likely would have died out before we learns how to develop defensive weapons against predators.

Wrong it is a relatively new idea. A political ideology invented in the 19th cenury and based on tyranny and slavery.

It is not as some people believe some idea of communal living.

 

[postman]

That's the official name of our country, moron. It's not a slogan.

Then we're just using it to fool other countries of our true nature. Just like the DPRK or the Nazi's.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Communism is an economic system where the people are allowed to collectively use tax money to start public enterprise if they want.
It is NOT a political system.
You could try communism under any form of political system you want, but it makes most sense under a democratic republic.
Capitalism however is about individual greed, so ideally any one who is a capitalist will also try to create a dictatorship if allowed to.

Communism is a political system which forces everyone to be a slave to the state and ultimately to everyone else.

Capitalism is about reality and human rights which works.

 

[bripat9643]

Then we're just using it to fool other countries of our true nature. Just like the DPRK or the Nazi's.

It doesn't mean that we are all "united" in the sense that we all have the same goals. It means that the states subject to the same federal government.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Nah, China has never been communist.
Mao learned from Stalin, who was a state capitalist.
Just ask yourself if the whole public collectively makes decisions that benefit everyone, or if an elite only are out to maximize their own profits and power.
When you have a wealthy elite controlling for profits, that is capitalism.
And that is what China has.
The only change lately is China is letting more small capitalists go it alone.
It is becoming less state capitalism and more individual capitalism.

Mao and Stalin were NOT state capitalists gthey were communist and china has been communist since Mao took over.

The current attempts to redefine communism is an abject and obscene lie


Capitalism is not about a wealthy elite it is about inidividual rights and consent which communsim forcibly strips away.

 

[Soupnazi630]

That's capitalism for you.
Remember slavery in the US?
That was capitalism.

Wrong.

Slavery predated capitalism and it was capitalism which provided the means to do away with slavery.

 

[Soupnazi630]

But China is NOT Communist anymore.

It is just an old-fashioned totalitarian dictatorship run by old men who dye their hair.

It is basically as capitalistic as many other countries. Or even more.

Communism is at its heart old fashioned totalitarian dictatorship

 

[Soupnazi630]

I have news for you, China has been pure capitalist for about 20 years now.

No they have not they have been communist all that time while allowing some limited and controlled capitalism.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Capitalism has nothing at all to do with democracy.
Capitalism defined by the employee - employer relationship.
The employer dictates what to produce, how to produce, where to produce, etc. Employees arent involved with those decisions in capitalism.

The employer does not dictate those things the market does.

 

[HappyJoy]

Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (someone should teach you how to use Google).

But that aside sweetie…quick lesson on propaganda. As you can see with North Korea here, dictators and oppressive governments employ tactics to make themselves look better - not worse, dummy

A capitalist, free society would not call themselves communists in an attempt to “trick” the world.

I guess my point went over at least a couple of wingnuts' heads.

 

[Unkotare]

You left out a whole bunch of stuff, such as the fact that capitalists put up all the capital to build factories, and assume all the cost and the risk in running those centers of manufacturing which produce jobs. The owners of all that risk also provide all the opportunities for people working for them to assume greater responsibilities over time for greater pay and benefits. You seem to favor a more communist (in name at least, socialist if you prefer). The CCP would love your attitude toward capitalism.

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[Unkotare]

Well if we remove Xi Jinping and the CCP from power....

How do you envision that happening, and what role would YOU be willing to play?

 

[Colin norris]

Capitalism has nothing at all to do with democracy.
Capitalism defined by the employee - employer relationship.
The employer dictates what to produce, how to produce, where to produce, etc. Employees arent involved with those decisions in capitalism.

I'm pleased you cleared that up.
Why are republicans so against the CCP if they are not communist any more?
Why does America invade countries like Vietnam and Iraq trying to democratize them?

 

[dudmuck]

I'm pleased you cleared that up.
Why are republicans so against the CCP if they are not communist any more?
Why does America invade countries like Vietnam and Iraq trying to democratize them?

china is opposed in USA because they're a competitor that is expected to overtake US economy in year 2032.

As for invading other countries to democratize them, thats just a façade to justify attacking a perceived threat. Iraq was a threat to its neighbors. Vietnam was just fear of communism 50 years ago. But today there are six billionaires in Vietnam, and China has nearly 700 billionaires.