The breakup of the United Kingdom???

[Correll]

BUT in doing that they have served up a stinging defeat for the type of Anti-nationalism the the Left has embraced, including Obama and HIllary.

If your other half of your brain were functioning, you too would see that too much "nationalism" is the precursor of bloody wars.

And nationalism is also the anti-dote to imperial schemes and dictatorial power mongering.

Hitler was the ultimate nationalist.

 

[martybegan]

Then amend the constitution to reflect those realities, don't use Judges to re-write it.

Why don't YOU amend the Constitution to take the power of judicial review away from the Court?

What we are seeing now is not judicial review, it is judicial legislating.

I would make some comment about you not seeing it, but that would be a lie. OF COURSE you see it, you just notice that most of the re-writes suit you, so you allow the process to be subjugated in the interest of your own expediency.

No. You just don't like a judiciary that doesn't make the decisions you would prefer. That's a partisan objection, not an objection on principle.

Actually I would prefer if Gay marriage is the law of the land in all States, however I do not see a mechanism for forcing the States to issue them via the federal courts, only a method of forcing them to accept marriages from other States.

I would prefer if abortion was legal throughout the US, up to the start of the 3rd trimester for any reason, and for risks to the mother after, however again, I do not see a mechanism in the constitution that forces States to accept this.

You mistake my criticism of the method for opposition for the results. As a strict constructional federalist, my desire for an outcome is overruled by my respect for the document as written and intended, particularly when it comes to the relegation of powers to the various levels of government, and the people.

States are required to have constitutional laws. If you have a state marriage law, it has to be constitutional, and can be struck down if it is not.

Considering the constitution doesn't get into marriage contracts at all, yammering about it is meaningless.

 

[martybegan]

Again,see my post to NYCarb, my issue is usually not with end results, but with the process. and Scalia was as close to a strict constructionist as you will get, with the exception of Thomas.

There is much "interpretation" and subsequent biases in "strict constructionist" policies....and Thomas....almost by his own admission, was just a puppet to Scalia.

Why don't you just call Thomas "Boy" while you are at it?

 

[nat4900]

So, you admit that "anti-nationalism" is part of the modern lefty ideology. Thus my point about this being a defeat for Obama and Hillary.

The above is a conclusion drawn from one of your lower orifices. Nationalism is what leads to first isolation and later, to civil unrest.

 

[nat4900]

Why don't you just call Thomas "Boy" while you are at it?

Cheap shot....Check out how many decisions Thomas disagreed with Scalia...AND, how many rulings were actually written by Thomas.

 

[Pete7469]

What we are seeing now is not judicial review, it is judicial legislating.

I would make some comment about you not seeing it, but that would be a lie. OF COURSE you see it, you just notice that most of the re-writes suit you, so you allow the process to be subjugated in the interest of your own expediency.

I think you're giving it too much credit. He's a drone. Just a computer generated algorithm programmed to regurgitate democrook propaganda and untruths while completely ignoring the facts. I don't believe some of these posters are real people.

No one could be that stupid and actually live.

 

[Correll]

So, you admit that "anti-nationalism" is part of the modern lefty ideology. Thus my point about this being a defeat for Obama and Hillary.

The above is a conclusion drawn from one of your lower orifices. Nationalism is what leads to first isolation and later, to civil unrest.

So you seem to disagree with my point that anti-nationalism is part of the modern left's ideology in the SAME SENTENCE that you claim that nationalism leads to isolation and civil unrest?


Liberals: All the self awareness of a turnip.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hitler was the ultimate nationalist.

No, actually he was not, he was a Pan-German ethnic racist, quite the opposite of a Nationalist.

A nationalist respects the differences of various nations, like the Netherlands, Austria, the Sudetenland, Poland, etc, but Hitler had no respect for any of that, or any borders either.

In his mind if you spoke a Germanic language then you belonged in Germany, and if you spoke a Slavic language then you deserved nothing more than to be a serf to the superior Germanic people.

That is not nationalism, it is leftwing Eugenics posing as nationalism.

Hitler was an anti-Borders Leftwing Socialist, nothing more.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hitler was the ultimate nationalist.

No, actually he was not, he was a PAn-German ethnic racist, quite the opposite of a Nationalist.

A nationalist respects the differences of various nations, like the Netherlands, Austria, the Sudetenland, Poland, etc, but Hitler had no respect for any of that, or any borders either.

In his mind if you spoke a Germanic language then you belonged in Germany, and if you spoke a Slavic language then you deserved nothing more than to be a serf to the superior Germanic people.

That is not nationalism, it is leftwing Eugenics posing as nationalism.

Hitler was an anti-Borders Leftwing Socialist, nothing more.

You could not be more wrong.

 

[nat4900]

So you seem to disagree with my point that anti-nationalism is part of the modern left's ideology in the SAME SENTENCE that you claim that nationalism leads to isolation and civil unrest?


Liberals: All the self awareness of a turnip.

Either you're being purposefully stupid...or you just do not even understand what your spewing.....a condition often found among right wingers overdosing on FOX.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hitler was the ultimate nationalist.

No, actually he was not, he was a PAn-German ethnic racist, quite the opposite of a Nationalist.

A nationalist respects the differences of various nations, like the Netherlands, Austria, the Sudetenland, Poland, etc, but Hitler had no respect for any of that, or any borders either.

In his mind if you spoke a Germanic language then you belonged in Germany, and if you spoke a Slavic language then you deserved nothing more than to be a serf to the superior Germanic people.

That is not nationalism, it is leftwing Eugenics posing as nationalism.

Hitler was an anti-Borders Leftwing Socialist, nothing more.

You could not be more wrong.

And yet I give facts that back what I claim while you simply dissent without explanation or facts to support your reflexive denials.

 

[JimBowie1958]

So you seem to disagree with my point that anti-nationalism is part of the modern left's ideology in the SAME SENTENCE that you claim that nationalism leads to isolation and civil unrest?


Liberals: All the self awareness of a turnip.

Either you're being purposefully stupid...or you just do not even understand what your spewing.....a condition often found among right wingers overdosing on FOX.

Correll is making sense while all you are doing is contradicting, obfuscating and distracting from the topic.

 

[Correll]

So you seem to disagree with my point that anti-nationalism is part of the modern left's ideology in the SAME SENTENCE that you claim that nationalism leads to isolation and civil unrest?


Liberals: All the self awareness of a turnip.

Either you're being purposefully stupid...or you just do not even understand what your spewing.....a condition often found among right wingers overdosing on FOX.

Nothing in your spin filled post addressed my point.


YOu attacked my claim that anti-nationalism is part of the modern Left's Ideology in the same sentence that you attacked nationalism as leading to isolation and civil unrest.


Anti-nationalism is part of the ideology of the Left and thus this vote was a defeat for the Left.

 

[kaz]

Scotland is put to bed for a while as the referendum to leave was voted down. And protestant Northern Ireland reconnecting with Catholic Ireland? Dream on

Scotland is wisely waiting on how the economic impact of England having to renegotiate key economic trade deals with the rest of Europe.....they'll go with whatever is best for Scotland and not to preserve the UK.

None of the Scottish I knew during the referendum brought that up in terms of secession

 

[JimBowie1958]

Scotland is put to bed for a while as the referendum to leave was voted down. And protestant Northern Ireland reconnecting with Catholic Ireland? Dream on

Scotland is wisely waiting on how the economic impact of England having to renegotiate key economic trade deals with the rest of Europe.....they'll go with whatever is best for Scotland and not to preserve the UK.

None of the Scottish I knew during the referendum brought that up in terms of secession

Scots are not generally known for bringing up relevant facts....more for their affinity for wearing skirts and following sheep up close.

 

[kaz]

With yesterday's historic vote for England to leave the EU, many repercussions will inevitably follow and not many of them in the "positive" column.

Currently the UK comprises 4 countries, and there are strong tendencies from countries such as Scotland and Northern Ireland to ALSO leave the tenuous compact to remain within the UK; this, coupled with the industrial sectors within England wanting to remain within the EU, will spell very hard economic times for the UK's future.

There is little doubt that the ripple effect of our wars in the middle east regions has taken its toll on the issue of immigration from those war-torn countries to Europe.....Britain has chosen to close its borders to such immigration, and yesterday's vote to separate itself from the EU will prove to be an economic and social downturn for that country.

We are indeed living in interesting times.

Scotland is put to bed for a while as the referendum to leave was voted down. And protestant Northern Ireland reconnecting with Catholic Ireland? Dream on

Scotland has a clause that states a new referendum on UK leaving EU.

Agree with you about Ireland, there is no chance of that happening.. The Republic of IReland couldn't afford Northern Ireland even if there wasn't a sh*tstorm fromt he unionists... Northern Ireland is UK's problem...

Interesting, I was just doing some reading and Scotland voted hugely to stay in the EU

 

[Montrovant]

Hitler was the ultimate nationalist.

No, actually he was not, he was a Pan-German ethnic racist, quite the opposite of a Nationalist.

A nationalist respects the differences of various nations, like the Netherlands, Austria, the Sudetenland, Poland, etc, but Hitler had no respect for any of that, or any borders either.

In his mind if you spoke a Germanic language then you belonged in Germany, and if you spoke a Slavic language then you deserved nothing more than to be a serf to the superior Germanic people.

That is not nationalism, it is leftwing Eugenics posing as nationalism.

Hitler was an anti-Borders Leftwing Socialist, nothing more.

How do you define nationalism?

Put basically, isn't it a sense of pride, loyalty, or duty to your nation? There is no need to respect other nations in nationalism, and in fact, one would probably put their own nation above all others as a nationalist.

 

[nat4900]

Hitler was the ultimate nationalist.

No, actually he was not, he was a Pan-German ethnic racist, quite the opposite of a Nationalist.

A nationalist respects the differences of various nations, like the Netherlands, Austria, the Sudetenland, Poland, etc, but Hitler had no respect for any of that, or any borders either.

In his mind if you spoke a Germanic language then you belonged in Germany, and if you spoke a Slavic language then you deserved nothing more than to be a serf to the superior Germanic people.

That is not nationalism, it is leftwing Eugenics posing as nationalism.

Hitler was an anti-Borders Leftwing Socialist, nothing more.

What was the role of nationalism in Germany before the war?

German nationalism that began to develop before World War II was a major motivation behind many individuals who joined the Nazi Party. Adolf Hitler, the leader of the Nazi Party, used his profound oratory skills to manipulate the German people into following his regime’s propaganda. The people were looking for something to improve the economic situation caused by the depression. The Nazi Party had a great propensity to purvey “mythical nationalist beliefs”; in 1933, they began deliberately blaming the Jewish population for the economic disparity in Germany

 

[nat4900]

Interesting, I was just doing some reading and Scotland voted hugely to stay in the EU

Indeed, an almost 2 to 1 majority in Scotland to remain part of the EU.

 

[Kristian]

Brussels Brits in shock after UK vote to leave EU

USA or U.K. in Brussels is disagree when British or englishmen vote say no from EU.