The Born Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act passed a couple days ago

[JoeB131]

You know what? This is stupid. Here's a peace offering for you to masturbate to:

Guy, it's against the rules to post this kind of thing. The fact you know where to find this sort of thing says a lot.

 

[JoeB131]

That is again, what is known as a "Non Sequitur'. That her body exists, does justify her taking a distinct life, which she conceived through her own willful and wanton behavior, having MADE HER CHOICE to ENGAGE IN THE BEHAVIOR WHICH NATURE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY to induce the life she has conceived.

Thus there is no actual connection between her body and a choice which she does not have.

It's her choice who she wants to have sex with. It's her choice whether or not to abort.

Learn to deal.

There are ways to reduce the number of abortion, but you'd call them socialism.

But this isn't about reducing abortion, this is about slut-shaming.

 

[JoeB131]

ROFLMNAO!

Now how precious is THAT?

Abortion is not a function of nature. Natural failure of the prenatal biological processes are a function of nature.

GUy, a function of nature is to let everyone die at 40. We defy nature every day with medicine, sanitation, agriculture, etc.

Abortion is a function of evil; wherein one individuals uses the power it possesses to strip another of the life it possesses, because the life taken was seen as an inconvenience to the life possessing more power.

Okay, guy, but you see, human beings have done that all throughout history through war and slavery and genocide. and the Bible fully endorses those things. It also doesn't talk about abortion at all. Now you think your Sky Pixie would have made it a lot clearer that war and abortion and slavery were wrong, if those things were so "evil".

As such the process is destructive to the individual bearing superior power, which uses it unjustly, failing to bear the sacred responsibility it had to defend that life... and the life lost.

Or not. Frankly, I don't judge. Quite honestly, I think there is a lot of dishonesty on the pro-life and pro-choice sides. Most abortions are performed on fetuses 12 weeks old or less. But you guys talk about the 20+ week abortion like that's common. The Pro-Choicers talk about rape and incest like that's common, mostly because they can count on some Republican to put an unnecessary adjective in front of the word "Rape".

In terms of what legalized abortion means on the grand scale... it is merely a irrefutable sign of a rapidly declining culture.

Or it's just the sign of a society where we have a certain level of technology.

Probably in the future, surgical abortion will be a thing of the past because we'll perfect chemical abortion, and this issue won't be talked about at all.

But morality has nothing to do with it.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

ROFLMNAO!

Now how precious is THAT?

Abortion is not a function of nature. Natural failure of the prenatal biological processes are a function of nature.

GUy, a function of nature is to let everyone die at 40. We defy nature every day with medicine, sanitation, agriculture, etc.

ROFLMNAO!

SO you're defying nature, are ya?

LOL! Reader, the hubris of the lowly anti-theist is sometimes, simply not to be believed. Apparently, Joe here is operating outside the boundaries of nature. SO... watch yourself, it's likely to ... well, let's not encourage it.

Abortion is a function of evil; wherein one individuals uses the power it possesses to strip an innocent of the life it possesses, because the life taken was seen as an inconvenience to the life possessing more power.

Okay, guy, but you see, human beings have done that all throughout history...

OH! So you believe in Evil, just not God?

(Well now Reader... what's the worst that can come from THAT, Right?)

As such the process is destructive to the individual bearing superior power, which uses it unjustly, failing to bear the sacred responsibility it had to defend that life... and the life lost.

Or not.

No, there is no 'not' in regard to the destructive process of abusing one's power against an innocent. The process is injurious to both parties. Such is the nature of Evil.

In terms of what legalized abortion means on the grand scale... it is merely a irrefutable sign of a rapidly declining culture.

Or it's just the sign of a society where we have a certain level of technology.

That we've allowed to be used, in OUR NAME, beyond the boundary decency and outside any sense of soundly reasoned morality. (Thus the who 'decay' thing I mentioned. Do you not comprehend what you read and cite as the basis of your response? You really SUCK at this.)

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

That is again, what is known as a "Non Sequitur'. That her body exists, does justify her taking a distinct life, which she conceived through her own willful and wanton behavior, having MADE HER CHOICE to ENGAGE IN THE BEHAVIOR WHICH NATURE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY to induce the life she has conceived.

Thus there is no actual connection between her body and a choice which she does not have.

It's her choice who she wants to have sex with. It's her choice whether or not to abort.

Oh my... So she has the choice to freely conceive a child and to murder that child?

Sweet Mother!... you and she are one sick, depraved, evil den of snakes, aren't ya?

Sadly for your evil den, neither she nor you possess such rights.

And your ignorance of that, doesn't provide you such.

And the temporal cultural dive... which tends toward allowing it... also doesn't provide such. It merely appears to do so... which is the coolest thing about illusion. It's a deceiver..., which in a marvelous paradox, that's the least cool thing about Evil.

And if you've read your Bible, you know that Evil never stands for long. Because of its inherent acidic nature on the soul, it induces decay, which simply isn't sustainable. As eventually, or inevitably as it were, it consumes everything and the cycle begins anew.

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

Oh my... So she has the choice to freely conceive a child and to murder that child?

Sweet Mother!... you and she are one sick, depraved, evil den of snakes, aren't ya?

Sadly for your evil den, neither she nor you possess such rights.

And your ignorance of that, doesn't provide you such.

And the temporal cultural dive... which tends toward allowing it... also doesn't provide such. It merely appears to do so... which is the coolest thing about illusion. It's a deceiver..., which in a marvelous paradox, that's the least cool thing about Evil.

And if you've read your Bible, you know that Evil never stands for long. Because of its inherent acidic nature on the soul, it induces decay, which simply isn't sustainable. As eventually, or inevitably as it were, it consumes everything and the cycle begins anew.

Yeah, I realized last night that arguing with these people is pointless. This issue has become so important to them that they're willing to lie to themselves and commit doublethink just to keep it justified, encouraged, and common. We should stop letting them derail the thread and go back to discussing the actual topic they're so afraid of. What do you think will happen when Obama vetoes?

 

[the_human_being]

Even if a boyfriend punched a pregnant woman in the gut, killing her baby, you would acquit., apparently. Amazing how someone can be so ******* murderous in their desire to kill babies.

NO, i would happily convict him of aggravated assault, the only crime he's guilty of.

Not just religious people , people with morales are against it.

Juan Morales? I use to hang out with that guy!

Unwanted pregnancies are far more avoidable now than at any time in history. You seem to feel it is unavoidable. It's not. Men and women have been experiencing the same sexual urges since Adam and Eve. I had the same hormones raging in me as any male nowadays experience. I simply spent the fifty cents at the service station dispensary and assumed the responsibility myself. My wife had three children and we presently have seven grandchildren. Neither my wife, my son, or my two daughter ever even considered having an abortion. Actually, all three of our children were planned for and wanted.

That you know of. Hey, guy, I would love it if everyone practiced birth control and only had sex with people who were good life partners. That's not the world we live in. We live in a world where people show poor judgement, but I'm not about to grant civil rights to embryoes because I don't like their bad decision making.

I'm sorry for you. So full of hate it has eaten away your humanity. You are a very unhappy and discontented individual.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Not really. But what societies did do was throw their children into sacrificial fires to appease some irascible deity. You people have been killing children in every age of man and will not escape God's judgment.

Why would your imaginary sky pixie have a problem with people killing children?

God drowned every child in the world in teh great flood.

He burned every child in Sodom and Gomorrah alive.

He killed every first born child in Egypt.

He ordered Saul to kill all the Children of the Amelakites.

He killed the infant son of David and Bathsheeba to teach them a lesson about not setting up unwanted husbands to get killed in battle.

"Blessed is he who smashes your little ones heads against the stones" - Psalm 137:9

Therefore, it is alright to play God?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Do you really think there is a woman out there who goes through 20 weeks of morning sickness, bloating and hormonal imbalance if she doesn't intend to have children?

Do you really pretend to know the intentions of these women? C'mon.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

No confusion at all. What goes on in an abortion clinic is none of your ******* business. Sit down, shut up and go read your Bible.

What happens in any business is our business bro.

Uh, no. What I want is for religous people to mind their own ******* business. I don't go into your church and start ranting at you about why your religion is a lie, you don't get into my business and tell me what kind of birth control I should use. Sounds like a pretty reasonable thing.

No one is going into abortion clinics and "ranting" or anything, but as Americans we have a proclivity to speak out.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

I'm not extending anything to "newborns'. The results of a botched abortion isn't a "newborn". It's still medical waste, just medical waste that hasn't stopped flopping around yet.

Why does it flop around? You are admitting that a late-term abortion is a tremendously painful experience for the baby like death would be for anyone brutally murdered.

 

[daws101]

ROFLMNAO!

Now how precious is THAT?

Abortion is not a function of nature. Natural failure of the prenatal biological processes are a function of nature.

GUy, a function of nature is to let everyone die at 40. We defy nature every day with medicine, sanitation, agriculture, etc.

ROFLMNAO!

SO you're defying nature, are ya?

LOL! Reader, the hubris of the lowly anti-theist is sometimes, simply not to be believed. Apparently, Joe here is operating outside the boundaries of nature. SO... watch yourself, it's likely to ... well, let's not encourage it.

Abortion is a function of evil; wherein one individuals uses the power it possesses to strip an innocent of the life it possesses, because the life taken was seen as an inconvenience to the life possessing more power.

Okay, guy, but you see, human beings have done that all throughout history...

OH! So you believe in Evil, just not God?

(Well now Reader... what's the worst that can come from THAT, Right?)

As such the process is destructive to the individual bearing superior power, which uses it unjustly, failing to bear the sacred responsibility it had to defend that life... and the life lost.

Or not.

No, there is no 'not' in regard to the destructive process of abusing one's power against an innocent. The process is injurious to both parties. Such is the nature of Evil.

In terms of what legalized abortion means on the grand scale... it is merely a irrefutable sign of a rapidly declining culture.

Or it's just the sign of a society where we have a certain level of technology.

That we've allowed to be used, in OUR NAME, beyond the boundary decency and outside any sense of soundly reasoned morality. (Thus the who 'decay' thing I mentioned. Do you not comprehend what you read and cite as the basis of your response? You really SUCK at this.)

When keys starts referring to others posters as creatures and uses the term reader .
It's smoking gun evidence he/she has run out of pseudo intellectual bullshit and is getting his/her ass handed to them.

 

[daws101]

Oh my... So she has the choice to freely conceive a child and to murder that child?

Sweet Mother!... you and she are one sick, depraved, evil den of snakes, aren't ya?

Sadly for your evil den, neither she nor you possess such rights.

And your ignorance of that, doesn't provide you such.

And the temporal cultural dive... which tends toward allowing it... also doesn't provide such. It merely appears to do so... which is the coolest thing about illusion. It's a deceiver..., which in a marvelous paradox, that's the least cool thing about Evil.

And if you've read your Bible, you know that Evil never stands for long. Because of its inherent acidic nature on the soul, it induces decay, which simply isn't sustainable. As eventually, or inevitably as it were, it consumes everything and the cycle begins anew.

Yeah, I realized last night that arguing with these people is pointless. This issue has become so important to them that they're willing to lie to themselves and commit doublethink just to keep it justified, encouraged, and common. We should stop letting them derail the thread and go back to discussing the actual topic they're so afraid of. What do you think will happen when Obama vetoes?

***** please!

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Well, at what time does a baby get the right to live?

Formerly it was a baby with a right to live at the moment of birth.

But now, liberals want to slide the line away from that position and say the baby still has no right to live, even after it was born.

So how long does it take for a baby to become fully human? Five minutes? An hour? A day?

Where's the lines?

The line is when the parents and the doctor sign a certificate of live birth.

Which is actually the legal definition we've used for a long time.

This is clearly not going to happen when a woman went to an abortion clinic to rid herself of a fetus that wouldn't be viable 99% of the time.

All the babies do not attain a right to live until the doctor signs a certificate you say. What if his pen ran dry? Your reasoning is a bad joke.

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

Oh my... So she has the choice to freely conceive a child and to murder that child?

Sweet Mother!... you and she are one sick, depraved, evil den of snakes, aren't ya?

Sadly for your evil den, neither she nor you possess such rights.

And your ignorance of that, doesn't provide you such.

And the temporal cultural dive... which tends toward allowing it... also doesn't provide such. It merely appears to do so... which is the coolest thing about illusion. It's a deceiver..., which in a marvelous paradox, that's the least cool thing about Evil.

And if you've read your Bible, you know that Evil never stands for long. Because of its inherent acidic nature on the soul, it induces decay, which simply isn't sustainable. As eventually, or inevitably as it were, it consumes everything and the cycle begins anew.

Yeah, I realized last night that arguing with these people is pointless. This issue has become so important to them that they're willing to lie to themselves and commit doublethink just to keep it justified, encouraged, and common. We should stop letting them derail the thread and go back to discussing the actual topic they're so afraid of. What do you think will happen when Obama vetoes?

***** please!

You're admitting that you intentionally derailed the conversation?

Now, back to the OP. Text - H.R.3504 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress is the text of the bill JoeB131 and daws101 think is a violation of human rights.

 

[daws101]

Oh my... So she has the choice to freely conceive a child and to murder that child?

Sweet Mother!... you and she are one sick, depraved, evil den of snakes, aren't ya?

Sadly for your evil den, neither she nor you possess such rights.

And your ignorance of that, doesn't provide you such.

And the temporal cultural dive... which tends toward allowing it... also doesn't provide such. It merely appears to do so... which is the coolest thing about illusion. It's a deceiver..., which in a marvelous paradox, that's the least cool thing about Evil.

And if you've read your Bible, you know that Evil never stands for long. Because of its inherent acidic nature on the soul, it induces decay, which simply isn't sustainable. As eventually, or inevitably as it were, it consumes everything and the cycle begins anew.

Yeah, I realized last night that arguing with these people is pointless. This issue has become so important to them that they're willing to lie to themselves and commit doublethink just to keep it justified, encouraged, and common. We should stop letting them derail the thread and go back to discussing the actual topic they're so afraid of. What do you think will happen when Obama vetoes?

***** please!

You're admitting that you intentionally derailed the conversation?
!
Now, back to the OP. Text - H.R.3504 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress is the text of the bill JoeB131 and daws101 think is a violation of human rights.

False ! I ***** slapped you back to reality.
I don't think the baaspa is a violation .
By definition it is.

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

Oh my... So she has the choice to freely conceive a child and to murder that child?

Sweet Mother!... you and she are one sick, depraved, evil den of snakes, aren't ya?

Sadly for your evil den, neither she nor you possess such rights.

And your ignorance of that, doesn't provide you such.

And the temporal cultural dive... which tends toward allowing it... also doesn't provide such. It merely appears to do so... which is the coolest thing about illusion. It's a deceiver..., which in a marvelous paradox, that's the least cool thing about Evil.

And if you've read your Bible, you know that Evil never stands for long. Because of its inherent acidic nature on the soul, it induces decay, which simply isn't sustainable. As eventually, or inevitably as it were, it consumes everything and the cycle begins anew.

Yeah, I realized last night that arguing with these people is pointless. This issue has become so important to them that they're willing to lie to themselves and commit doublethink just to keep it justified, encouraged, and common. We should stop letting them derail the thread and go back to discussing the actual topic they're so afraid of. What do you think will happen when Obama vetoes?

***** please!

You're admitting that you intentionally derailed the conversation?
!
Now, back to the OP. Text - H.R.3504 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress is the text of the bill JoeB131 and daws101 think is a violation of human rights.

False ! I ***** slapped you back to reality.
I don't think the baaspa is a violation .
By definition it is.

I'm still waiting on you to demonstrate a comprehension of reality. All you've really said so far is that our position is objectively wrong because it's impossible for something to be objectively right or wrong. You've defended that by asserting that all mature adults believe this and that, while you can't explain why it's true, it's true nonetheless. Now, are you willing to discuss the actual bill in question, or are you going to keep trying to change the subject?

 

[daws101]

Oh my... So she has the choice to freely conceive a child and to murder that child?

Sweet Mother!... you and she are one sick, depraved, evil den of snakes, aren't ya?

Sadly for your evil den, neither she nor you possess such rights.

And your ignorance of that, doesn't provide you such.

And the temporal cultural dive... which tends toward allowing it... also doesn't provide such. It merely appears to do so... which is the coolest thing about illusion. It's a deceiver..., which in a marvelous paradox, that's the least cool thing about Evil.

And if you've read your Bible, you know that Evil never stands for long. Because of its inherent acidic nature on the soul, it induces decay, which simply isn't sustainable. As eventually, or inevitably as it were, it consumes everything and the cycle begins anew.

Yeah, I realized last night that arguing with these people is pointless. This issue has become so important to them that they're willing to lie to themselves and commit doublethink just to keep it justified, encouraged, and common. We should stop letting them derail the thread and go back to discussing the actual topic they're so afraid of. What do you think will happen when Obama vetoes?

***** please!

You're admitting that you intentionally derailed the conversation?
!
Now, back to the OP. Text - H.R.3504 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress is the text of the bill JoeB131 and daws101 think is a violation of human rights.

False ! I ***** slapped you back to reality.
I don't think the baaspa is a violation .
By definition it is.

I'm still waiting on you to demonstrate a comprehension of reality. All you've really said so far is that our position is objectively wrong because it's impossible for something to be objectively right or wrong, and defended that by telling me that you can't explain it. Now, are you willing to discuss the actual bill in question, or are you going to keep trying to change the subject?

the reality is the bill will not pass.
2. I defended nothing I simply stated fact.
It is not necessary for me to explain it any further.
"the subject" changed all by itself the second guys brought in the sky faire in to the conversation.

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

Yeah, I realized last night that arguing with these people is pointless. This issue has become so important to them that they're willing to lie to themselves and commit doublethink just to keep it justified, encouraged, and common. We should stop letting them derail the thread and go back to discussing the actual topic they're so afraid of. What do you think will happen when Obama vetoes?

***** please!

You're admitting that you intentionally derailed the conversation?
!
Now, back to the OP. Text - H.R.3504 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress is the text of the bill JoeB131 and daws101 think is a violation of human rights.

False ! I ***** slapped you back to reality.
I don't think the baaspa is a violation .
By definition it is.

I'm still waiting on you to demonstrate a comprehension of reality. All you've really said so far is that our position is objectively wrong because it's impossible for something to be objectively right or wrong, and defended that by telling me that you can't explain it. Now, are you willing to discuss the actual bill in question, or are you going to keep trying to change the subject?

the reality is the bill will not pass.
2. I defended nothing I simply stated fact.
It is not necessary for me to explain it any further.
"the subject" changed all by itself the second guys brought in the sky faire in to the conversation.

Okay. Let's use your terminology. You "stated" the "facts" that our position is objectively wrong, that no philosphical position can be objectively true or false because it's all subjective, and that every mature adult agrees with you on this. You've further stated that, while you cannot explain how it can be possible for both assertions can be true at the same time, we should take it as a fact that it is regardless. Also, you've always been capable of believing two contradictory things with no cognitive dissonance.

 

[daws101]

***** please!

You're admitting that you intentionally derailed the conversation?
!
Now, back to the OP. Text - H.R.3504 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress is the text of the bill JoeB131 and daws101 think is a violation of human rights.

False ! I ***** slapped you back to reality.
I don't think the baaspa is a violation .
By definition it is.

I'm still waiting on you to demonstrate a comprehension of reality. All you've really said so far is that our position is objectively wrong because it's impossible for something to be objectively right or wrong, and defended that by telling me that you can't explain it. Now, are you willing to discuss the actual bill in question, or are you going to keep trying to change the subject?

the reality is the bill will not pass.
2. I defended nothing I simply stated fact.
It is not necessary for me to explain it any further.
"the subject" changed all by itself the second guys brought in the sky faire in to the conversation.

Okay. Let's use your terminology. You "stated" the "facts" that our position is objectively wrong, that no philosphical position can be objectively true or false because it's all subjective, and that every mature adult agrees with you on this. You've further stated that you could not explain how it can be possible for both assertions can be true at the same time but we should take it as a fact that it is. Also, you've always been capable of believing two contradictory things with no cognitive dissonance.

false! never said "that every mature adult agrees with you on this." also you 've misstated this (below)
You've further stated that you could not explain how it can be possible for both assertions can be true at the same time but we should take it as a fact that it is.
my explanation is what it is you would not accept it as fact even if were a 100 pages of proofs and co written by Stephan hawking.