You saying it doesn’t make it true. PROVE it.Sorry, Vlad, that's not actually happening. People who rioted and tried to break in and kill members of Congress and the Vice President are being charged with the actual crimes they committed.Uh Oh. Somebody’s getting pissy and mad and threatening again. You ARE a caricature…That’s not happening. People are being prosecuted for breaking the law not persecuted for political beliefs.I will tell you what is upside down. People being persecuted for their political beliefs. Your own government telling us questioning what they are saying makes you a traitor. How dumb are you people? A child can see this kind of crap. It is not patriotic and it is un American.No sugar it wasn’t negative coverage. Jesus H Christ on a raft you live in upside fucking down world.Trump had more media coverage in 2016 than all the other candidates combined. Trump now has at least three media outlets and a Russian President dedicated to broadcasting his lies. Argument fail. (And you still have zero evidence to support your claim. No poll, survey, interview, nothing)Yeah, but we have a whole new dipshit, Correll , claiming Trump lost because the “MSM” lied about Donald Trump and what he said in Charlottesville. That would mean Trump stole the primary from Cruz because he lied about Cruz’s father and it would mean that he stole the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton because he lied about her constantly.And didn't Trump steal the GOP nominee from Ted Cruz when he accused Ted's father of being involved in the Kennedy assassination?Yeah, but you got to give him mad props for his unique explanation as to how it was “stolen”.Well you think the election was stolen so we aren't taking you at all seriously anymore. Anyone who thinks the election was rigged is an idiot.I posted links, cultist.Only after public pressure. Each and every time he was first asked to condemn someone or some thing having to do with white supremacy he equivocated. When public pressure over his equivocation would mount, then he would come out with a prepared statement. (Prepared by someone else)He wasn’t willing to condemn racists because they supported him. We all know it.He got 99.9% of the racist vote. He wasn’t going to trade that for a minuscule increase in the black vote…he HAD to play footsie with the racists that supported him.The blob did get the INCEL vote...There were exit polls…how many people listed Trump’s perceived ambivalence towards racists as a reason not to vote for him? (ambivalence he displayed over and over)So what was this display of bigotry on the left he was talking about?How about answering the question?<crickets>What was the display of bigotry from the left?After how many days and a barrage of public pressure?INope, you don't "got it." I don't think that. There are many people who disagree with me here who I don't consider retarded.
Nope, the liar is you. Most notably, I'm going by what he actually said. You're going by what you think he actually meant.
Nope, you're lying again as the information wasn't false. There was a racist rally which led to a confrontation to counter the racists. Racism is evil. Fighting it is noble. Trump equated the two sides and idiotically claimed there were "very fine people on both sides."
Nope, you're just crazy.
Trump clearly condemned w.s. You are inventing confusion where there is none. To stonewall in defense of your big lie.
Trump: " -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.
Trump denounces white supremacists after coming under fire over Charlottesville
Trump on Saturday condemned hatred "on many sides," which prompted backlash from both Democrats and Republicans alikewww.cbsnews.com
His remarks occurred after the president came under fire for the way he handled Charlottesville two days ago. Mr. Trump on Saturday condemned hatred "on many sides," which prompted backlash from both Democrats and Republicans alike.
After zero days. The riot occurred sat morning, to lunch time, Saturday. Expanded quote. I was not trying to trick you.
Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence.
See, here we will see that your complaints are bullshit. You made a point that he waited days to condemn the riot. I just proved that that was not true. Now you will ignore this new information and hold to your position, without any adjustment.
Because, your position is based, at best on blind faith, and at worst on knowingly lying in the fact of clear proof.
What was the display of bigotry from the left?
Oh, sorry I missed that post.
Well, are you asking my opinion, or asking me to specify what Trump was referring to?
REgardless, I'm glad you are not denying that Trump was right to denounce the violence and hatred from both sides, including from the left.
The point is, Trump denounced both sides for their bad behavior, the violent and hateful left (antifa/blm) and the violent and hateful right?, (w.s.).
As he well should have.
It was a riot. I have no idea what particular act(s) he was referring to.
He made a statement condemning the violence, bigotry and hate on BOTH sides.
Nit picking over which act of bigotry from the LEFT he was referring to, is fucking stupid.
You are just trying to avoid dealing with the fact that he condemned the violence, bigotry and hatred, as he well should have.
His response was nearly perfect and you are nit picking like the asshole you are.
Answered above.
And sure like all the people Trump used eventually he threw Proud Boys under the bus too. No surprise.
‘A Total Failure’: The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump (Published 2021)
Members of the far-right group, who were among Donald Trump’s staunchest fans, are calling him “weak” as more of them were charged for storming the U.S. Capitol.www.nytimes.com
Members of the far-right group, who were among Donald Trump’s staunchest fans, are calling him “weak” as more of them were charged for storming the U.S. Capitol.
In a Nov. 8 post in a private channel of the messaging app Telegram, the group urged its followers to attend protests against an election that it said had been fraudulently stolen from Mr. Trump. “Hail Emperor Trump,” the Proud Boys wrote.
But by this week, the group’s attitude toward Mr. Trump had changed. “Trump will go down as a total failure,” the Proud Boys said in the same Telegram channel on Monday.
That has no relevance to anything in this thread. You are bringing it up, BECAUSE it has no relevance.
You people lied. You people lied A BIG LIE.
One big enough to swing the election.
Thus, the election is not legitimate.
Trump lost because of COVID, period. If he had responded more effectively to the pandemic, he would’ve been reelected.
You people are delusional. White Racists have been completely marginalized since the mid 60s. Which is why you people are so focused on fighting them.
Trump would love to have more of the minority vote. Hell, it has been a common point of discussion that without being able to do that, republicans are doomed as a national party.
Your lie here, is part of a larger lie, that republicans are wacist, so that you people can keep your lock on the minority votes.
You are lying assholes like that.
All Republicans are not racist. Most racists VOTE Republican. That is nobody’s fault but Republicans.
He repeatedly and clearly condemned ws.
Your denial is you being a liar.
That you lie, shows that you fear that if the voters knew the Truth, they would vote against you.
if you can't be honest about this, "and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists"
what are the odds you can be trusted to tell the truth about "only after public pressure" or " he equivocated"?
Rhetorical question. You are a horrific liar. Your words, your judgements, have no weight.
You people lied as a group and stuck and are sticking to your lies, even when the actual transcripts are repeatedly shoved in your face.
NOTHING YOU SAY, about any situation with any ambiguity has any credibility.
No, that is not strong enough,
Anything you say, in any situation with ANY ambiguity, has ANTI-CREDIBILITY.Using his logic, Hillary Clinton had the election stolen from her in 2016 because of the outrageous lies Trump told about her her.
“Ted Cruz didn’t win Iowa, he stole it,” Trump (@realDonaldTrump) tweeted. “That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!”
Same dipshit, same batshit, different election. 'They stole it!!' is Trump's go to for any election he loses. Does this ring any bells?
“Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified,” Trump wrote.
Dipshits are gonna dip, I guess.
Re:The OP, to make a BIG LIE stick, you need to control the means of information. Trump does not. He can talk some shit, that don't mean nothing.
YOU PEOPLE, can make it stick, even when it is the most absurd shit, like pretending that "not w.s." means, "w.s.".
Sure, negative coverage.
LOL!! "Russia president"? So funny to see lefties red baiting.
THe big Three, Big Tech, Hollywood, Cancel culture, your side's grip on the means of information is strong and you are growing ever more abusive and tyrannical in your exercise of it.
Support my claim? You people are pretending to not know what "not" means.
lol!!!
Key findings:
Research: Media Coverage of the 2016 Election | Shorenstein Center
The Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy produced a multi-part research series analyzing news media coverage of candidates and issues during the 2016 presidential election. The reports were authored by Thomas E. Patterson, Bradlee Professor of Government and the Press, with...shorensteincenter.org
- During 2015, major news outlets covered Donald Trump in an unusual way given his low initial polling numbers—a high volume of media coverage preceded Trump’s rise in polls.
- Trump’s coverage was positive in tone—he received far more “good press” than “bad press,” largely in the context of the “horserace,” centering on his growing crowds and momentum. The coverage helped propel Trump to the top of Republican polls.
- The Democratic race in 2015 received less than half the coverage of the Republican race, partly as a result of journalists’ focus on Trump.
- Bernie Sanders’ campaign was largely ignored in the early months but, as he began to get coverage, it was overwhelmingly positive in tone. Sanders’ coverage in 2015 was the most favorable of any of the top candidates, Republican or Democratic.
- Hillary Clinton had by far the most negative coverage of any candidate. In 11 of the 12 months, her “bad news” outpaced her “good news,” usually by a wide margin, contributing to her increasingly unfavorable poll ratings in 2015.
More fucking lies, that A won't fool anyone , and B. won't change the way it escalates teh conflict.
When you start putting people in jail based on partisan politics...
yes, people will get angry.
That you think... you can just say words and that will mean anything, while you are imprisoning your political enemies,
is you kidding yourself.
You can shake your fists in impotent rage all you want. Law breakers are still going to go to jail and you still won't do shit.
They are being investigated and targeted far more aggressively than other rioters of the last 4 years.
Based on partisan politics.
That makes anyone serving time, from that, political prisoners.
Your denial of this fact, is irrelevant.
It might help you avoid facing your responsibility for the escalation in the political conflict in this country.
But, self delusion is not normally considered a good thing.
Well that’s just dumb. Of course it’s not gonna change my opinion of him. I already think he’s one of the worst people on the planet. The question is will it change your opinion of him? I think the answer is no it will not. You already don’t care that he is a racist piece of shit. You’re not gonna care when it’s proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.Oh, I would care. I would care because it would prove you even more wrong than you already are. And then your non-caring would prove me right about you.Thanks for admitting you wouldn't care if Trump was on tape saying the N word.Sorry, you’re confusing me with someone else that you’re having that conversation with.Uh huh. If the Apprentice tapes have him flat out using the N word as alleged, you’ll defend him anyway. It’s your job as sycophant.If the tapes don’t show him being a racist douche, what’s the worry?Oh, there is something on those tapes. Why else would he fight so hard to keep them secret?If there was anything on those tapes it would have been released before the election. And where are these racists at? Chicago, where the Black mayor refuses to talk to white reporters?Oh, I think we could know. Like if the Apprentice tapes get released.Nope, just reporting on what the former President said and did. Whether or not Trump actually is racist we may never know. There is plenty of evidence to support the theory that he is, but the racists believe he is. What does that say?You are perpetuating a lie. Go get yourself a treat, and get off the internet. Thanks.I posted links, cultist.Only after public pressure. Each and every time he was first asked to condemn someone or some thing having to do with white supremacy he equivocated. When public pressure over his equivocation would mount, then he would come out with a prepared statement. (Prepared by someone else)He wasn’t willing to condemn racists because they supported him. We all know it.He got 99.9% of the racist vote. He wasn’t going to trade that for a minuscule increase in the black vote…he HAD to play footsie with the racists that supported him.The blob did get the INCEL vote...There were exit polls…how many people listed Trump’s perceived ambivalence towards racists as a reason not to vote for him? (ambivalence he displayed over and over)So what was this display of bigotry on the left he was talking about?How about answering the question?<crickets>What was the display of bigotry from the left?After how many days and a barrage of public pressure?INope, you don't "got it." I don't think that. There are many people who disagree with me here who I don't consider retarded.
Nope, the liar is you. Most notably, I'm going by what he actually said. You're going by what you think he actually meant.
Nope, you're lying again as the information wasn't false. There was a racist rally which led to a confrontation to counter the racists. Racism is evil. Fighting it is noble. Trump equated the two sides and idiotically claimed there were "very fine people on both sides."
Nope, you're just crazy.
Trump clearly condemned w.s. You are inventing confusion where there is none. To stonewall in defense of your big lie.
Trump: " -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.
Trump denounces white supremacists after coming under fire over Charlottesville
Trump on Saturday condemned hatred "on many sides," which prompted backlash from both Democrats and Republicans alike
His remarks occurred after the president came under fire for the way he handled Charlottesville two days ago. Mr. Trump on Saturday condemned hatred "on many sides," which prompted backlash from both Democrats and Republicans alike.
After zero days. The riot occurred sat morning, to lunch time, Saturday. Expanded quote. I was not trying to trick you.
Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence.
See, here we will see that your complaints are bullshit. You made a point that he waited days to condemn the riot. I just proved that that was not true. Now you will ignore this new information and hold to your position, without any adjustment.
Because, your position is based, at best on blind faith, and at worst on knowingly lying in the fact of clear proof.
What was the display of bigotry from the left?
Oh, sorry I missed that post.
Well, are you asking my opinion, or asking me to specify what Trump was referring to?
REgardless, I'm glad you are not denying that Trump was right to denounce the violence and hatred from both sides, including from the left.
The point is, Trump denounced both sides for their bad behavior, the violent and hateful left (antifa/blm) and the violent and hateful right?, (w.s.).
As he well should have.
It was a riot. I have no idea what particular act(s) he was referring to.
He made a statement condemning the violence, bigotry and hate on BOTH sides.
Nit picking over which act of bigotry from the LEFT he was referring to, is fucking stupid.
You are just trying to avoid dealing with the fact that he condemned the violence, bigotry and hatred, as he well should have.
His response was nearly perfect and you are nit picking like the asshole you are.
Answered above.
And sure like all the people Trump used eventually he threw Proud Boys under the bus too. No surprise.
‘A Total Failure’: The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump (Published 2021)
Members of the far-right group, who were among Donald Trump’s staunchest fans, are calling him “weak” as more of them were charged for storming the U.S. Capitol.
Members of the far-right group, who were among Donald Trump’s staunchest fans, are calling him “weak” as more of them were charged for storming the U.S. Capitol.
In a Nov. 8 post in a private channel of the messaging app Telegram, the group urged its followers to attend protests against an election that it said had been fraudulently stolen from Mr. Trump. “Hail Emperor Trump,” the Proud Boys wrote.
But by this week, the group’s attitude toward Mr. Trump had changed. “Trump will go down as a total failure,” the Proud Boys said in the same Telegram channel on Monday.
That has no relevance to anything in this thread. You are bringing it up, BECAUSE it has no relevance.
You people lied. You people lied A BIG LIE.
One big enough to swing the election.
Thus, the election is not legitimate.
Trump lost because of COVID, period. If he had responded more effectively to the pandemic, he would’ve been reelected.
You people are delusional. White Racists have been completely marginalized since the mid 60s. Which is why you people are so focused on fighting them.
Trump would love to have more of the minority vote. Hell, it has been a common point of discussion that without being able to do that, republicans are doomed as a national party.
Your lie here, is part of a larger lie, that republicans are wacist, so that you people can keep your lock on the minority votes.
You are lying assholes like that.
All Republicans are not racist. Most racists VOTE Republican. That is nobody’s fault but Republicans.
He repeatedly and clearly condemned ws.
Your denial is you being a liar.
That you lie, shows that you fear that if the voters knew the Truth, they would vote against you.
if you can't be honest about this, "and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists"
what are the odds you can be trusted to tell the truth about "only after public pressure" or " he equivocated"?
Rhetorical question. You are a horrific liar. Your words, your judgements, have no weight.
You people lied as a group and stuck and are sticking to your lies, even when the actual transcripts are repeatedly shoved in your face.
NOTHING YOU SAY, about any situation with any ambiguity has any credibility.
No, that is not strong enough,
Anything you say, in any situation with ANY ambiguity, has ANTI-CREDIBILITY.
Analysis: Why won't Donald Trump condemn white nationalism?
WASHINGTON (AP) — Why doesn't President Donald Trump just unequivocally condemn white supremacists? It's a jarring question to ask about an American president.apnews.com
The president was silent when journalists asked whether he rejected the support of nationalist groups.
That silence was cheered by the white supremacist website Daily Stormer: “When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.”
What does it tell you when the racists believe he supports them?
You will never "know" because you can interpret "not them" as "them", in your search for "evidence" to support your self serving conclusions.
It is a fact that the racists believe that Trump is one of them. What does that tell you?
At a guess, because he knows that dishonest assholes of the type that see "not w.s." as, "w.s.", will be going deep diving in them "looking" for shit to throw at the wall.
And by "looking" I mean, lying their leftard asses off about.
You people have shown, a lot, that you are filthy liars that would claim that ANYTHING, is wacist.
Like retarded monkeys throwing shit at a wall.
LOL!!! Dude. You can listen to a tape of Trump saying, "and I'm NOT talking about w.s." and you hear him say, "and I am talking about w.s.".
So, how can we even discuss tapes? You imagine what you want to hear, or not hear.
NOt to mention, if America was half,...no, a TENTH, as wacist as you retards claim to believe it is, you would not have to be searching for evidence of it is secret tapes and hidden dog whistles. YOu would be able to point to formal government policies and laws, that require racist discrimination.
Like Affirmative Action and Disparate Impact Theory.
He could say it, spell it and send it up in smoke signals. You would remain as slavishly devoted as you are now.
You lefties do tend to blur together.
Not being someone who hates me and is as much of in your face assholes as you people are, makes Trump the easy one to support as opposed to evil leftards like yourself.
You're welcome.
Do you have the balls to admit that you wouldn't care either, either way?
Dude. Did you really misunderstand that, or are you just talking shit now?
Do you have the balls to admit that it would not matter to YOUR OPINION on Trump, either way, whether the tapes supported your assumptions or contradicted them? You evasive shithead.
Do you realize you just admitted that your opinion of Trump is not fact based?
