The Best Part of Electric Vehicles

[sealybobo]

The best part of an electric car is the nut behind the wheel.

Socialist: After the revolution we will all have big homes.

Great says the recruit.

Socialist: After the revolution we will all have nice cars.

GREAT says the recruit!

Socialist: And after the revolution we will all have Ebikes.

Recruit says, "but I like my regular bike"

Socialist says: LISTEN MOTHER FUCKER, AFTER THE REVOLUTION YOU'LL TAKE YOUR GOD DAMNED EBIKE AND LIKE IT OR ELSE!

 

[sealybobo]

Wow, look at the thickness of those charging cables! There is some real CURRENT there. And of course, since these cars must sit so long, no one was around to move the others out of the area so one fire took out at least three vehicles.

I used to have something that took a small, $200 lithium battery for portability that I didn't use much anymore so I threw the battery away, I didn't want it in the house anymore worrying about it catching on fire in its discharged state.

So these EV cars need some sort of complex sensing circuit to detect excess current or other battery problems and cut the current draw off as soon as detected, then some sort of fire suppression system underneath. Insurance companies will charge a premium for storing and charging EV cars in house and require or offer discounts for having a fire suppression system in your garage. Sleep well.

Can you imagine the environmental mess of cleaning up after the fire in the video? Can you imagine the toxins released in that fire? All kinds of tasty things go into making lithium batteries including an agent used in the making of nerve gas.

Just remember all these concerns you have when in the future we start discussing nuclear power. You guys love nuclear right?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Just remember all these concerns you have when in the future we start discussing nuclear power. You guys love nuclear right?

Everything has a danger. More people died in their bathroom this morning than all nuclear power plants in America in the last 50 years. Same with Ted Kennedy’s car.

We can talk about the most environmentally friendly reliable energy sources, if you’ll talk about the dangers of hydro, wind and solar.

 

[sealybobo]

Everything has a danger. More people died in their bathroom this morning than all nuclear power plants in America in the last 50 years. Same with Ted Kennedy’s car.

We can talk about the most environmentally friendly reliable energy sources, if you’ll talk about the dangers of hydro, wind and solar.

What are the dangers of hydro and wind and solar?

 

[Weatherman2020]

What are the dangers of hydro and wind and solar?

Environmentally severe. Ever been to Yosemite?

The valley to its north looks almost identical. Most people don’t know that because it’s filled with water from a dam.

Wind kills thousands of important raptors and bats every week. So now farmers need to use even more pesticides.

 

[Old Rocks]

Environmentally severe. Ever been to Yosemite?
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The valley to its north looks almost identical. Most people don’t know that because it’s filled with water from a dam.

Wind kills thousands of important raptors and bats every week. So now farmers need to use even more pesticides.

Dumb-de-dumb dumb. Raptors feed mostly on rodents, birds, and other small animals. As for the windmill kill, here are the bird kill numbers for what we build and raise;

Human-related Causes of Bird Mortality – Sibley Guides

www.sibleyguides.com

 

[ReinyDays]

Dumb-de-dumb dumb. Raptors feed mostly on rodents, birds, and other small animals. As for the windmill kill, here are the bird kill numbers for what we build and raise;
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Human-related Causes of Bird Mortality – Sibley Guides

www.sibleyguides.com

ROCK ON feral cats ... damn birds will shit in your open mouth just because they can ...

 

[ReinyDays]

Here's why self-service is illegal in Oregon:



There's some spontaneous ignition caused by an unskilled untrained lay person handling extremely flammable liquids ... EVs are designed for Oregonians ... we're just not safe around gasoline ...

 

[Rigby5]

I love my ebike. Clean, quiet and I can ride on thousands of miles of trails motorized vehicles can’t.

My friends with normal bikes tell me how they ride 20 miles. I ride 60 miles or more.

If I took you on a ride you’d be hooked. But could you afford one? That’s the other thing. It’s a new product and good for the economy

I don't get your points.
There are no trails for electric bikes that restrict motorized vehicles.
Electric bikes are motorized and follow the same restrictions.
The fact most people do not ride far is because off road trails need slower speeds, and has nothing to do with anything.
The fact you ride 60 miles is not very much.
That is just 30 miles each way.

New products are not good for the economy at all.
It means new production facilities have to be built, while old ones abandoned.
And electric vehicles are mostly production of China, which has the rare earth element monopoly.

 

[Rigby5]

They’re ok with gas destroying the planet but not batteries destroying their homes.

Reminds me of when they were concerned how many birds were killed by windmills.

Internal combustion engines are not harming the planet because they can be run on bio fuel, that removes more carbon than released back.
It is electric vehicles that harm the environment of the planet most, because batteries are incredibly inefficient.
They not only add huge weight, but only have about 50% efficiency on charge and discharge.

 

[sealybobo]

Environmentally severe. Ever been to Yosemite?
View attachment 515885
The valley to its north looks almost identical. Most people don’t know that because it’s filled with water from a dam.

Wind kills thousands of important raptors and bats every week. So now farmers need to use even more pesticides.

Interesting. The argument that windmills were killing birds I thought was garbage but I didn't know they were killing important birds and bats.

By fulfilling their ecological roles, bats promote biodiversity and support the health of their ecosystems. The ecological roles of bats include pollinating and dispersing the seeds of hundreds of species of plants.

Thanks for educating me.

 

[sealybobo]

Environmentally severe. Ever been to Yosemite?
View attachment 515885
The valley to its north looks almost identical. Most people don’t know that because it’s filled with water from a dam.

Wind kills thousands of important raptors and bats every week. So now farmers need to use even more pesticides.

You know my fan has a guard around it so I can't touch the blades? We could do something like that so the birds can't get in.

We better take down all the electrical lines we use now

Collisions with power transmission and distribution lines may kill anywhere from hundreds of thousands to 175 million birds annually, and power lines electrocute tens to hundreds of thousands more birds annually, but these utilities are poorly monitored for both strikes and electrocutions.

 

[sealybobo]

Here's why self-service is illegal in Oregon:



There's some spontaneous ignition caused by an unskilled untrained lay person handling extremely flammable liquids ... EVs are designed for Oregonians ... we're just not safe around gasoline ...

People in Oregon are stupid? I bet it's a red state.

 

[Old Rocks]

Internal combustion engines are not harming the planet because they can be run on bio fuel, that removes more carbon than released back.
It is electric vehicles that harm the environment of the planet most, because batteries are incredibly inefficient.
They not only add huge weight, but only have about 50% efficiency on charge and discharge.

Damn, but you are stupid;

All-Electric Vehicles​

All-electric vehicles (EVs) run on electricity only. They are propelled by one or more electric motors powered by rechargeable battery packs. EVs have several advantages over conventional vehicles:

• Energy efficient. EVs convert over 77% of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 12%–30% of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels.
• Environmentally friendly. EVs emit no tailpipe pollutants, although the power plant producing the electricity may emit them. Electricity from nuclear-, hydro-, solar-, or wind-powered plants causes no air pollutants.
• Performance benefits. Electric motors provide quiet, smooth operation and stronger acceleration and require less maintenance than internal combustion engines (ICEs).
• Reduced energy dependence. Electricity is a domestic energy source.

All-Electric Vehicles

All-electric vehicles (EVs) are efficient, produce no tailpipe emissions, and help increase energy security. See if an EV is right for you!

www.fueleconomy.gov

 

[sealybobo]

I don't get your points.
There are no trails for electric bikes that restrict motorized vehicles.
Electric bikes are motorized and follow the same restrictions.
The fact most people do not ride far is because off road trails need slower speeds, and has nothing to do with anything.
The fact you ride 60 miles is not very much.
That is just 30 miles each way.

New products are not good for the economy at all.
It means new production facilities have to be built, while old ones abandoned.
And electric vehicles are mostly production of China, which has the rare earth element monopoly.

Bullshit. None of the bike trails in MI allow motorized vehicles. In fact at one point Ebikes weren't allowed but some cripple sued and that is no longer true. You can not take your motorized vehicles on any of these trials.

Rails to Trails Conservancy: Building A Nation Connected By Trails

Rails to Trails Conservancy is building a nation connected by trails, reimagining public spaces to create safe ways to be active outdoors.

www.railstotrails.org

You are mistaken.

You can not ride a normal bike 60 miles. Unless you are a trained athlete. Fat ass Donald Trump could ride 60 miles on my bike except his fat ass would get sore after 30.

No E bikes don't follow the same restrictions. There are actually 3 levels of Ebikes. The higher level ones might have the same restrictions but not my Ebike. No throttle on my Ebike. If there is a throttle then maybe you are right but not mine.

Sorry to educate you

Since motorized vehicles are typically not allowed on multiuse trails, this precludes their use on these facilities, as well as in bike lanes and on sidewalks. Some states have instituted age restrictions on the use of e-bikes.
https://www.railstotrails.org/build...g-toolbox/management-and-maintenance/e-bikes/

E-Bikes | Rails-to-Trails Conservancy​

https://www.railstotrails.org
https://www.railstotrails.org/build...g-toolbox/management-and-maintenance/e-bikes/
You may NOT operate a class 2 or class 3 electric bicycle on a linear trail or a rail trail unless authorized by the local authority or agency of the state having jurisdiction over the trail.
https://www.railstotrails.org/build...g-toolbox/management-and-maintenance/e-bikes/
Luckily mine is a class 1. https://www.railstotrails.org/build...g-toolbox/management-and-maintenance/e-bikes/

 

[sealybobo]

Damn, but you are stupid;

All-Electric Vehicles​

All-electric vehicles (EVs) run on electricity only. They are propelled by one or more electric motors powered by rechargeable battery packs. EVs have several advantages over conventional vehicles:

• Energy efficient. EVs convert over 77% of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 12%–30% of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels.
• Environmentally friendly. EVs emit no tailpipe pollutants, although the power plant producing the electricity may emit them. Electricity from nuclear-, hydro-, solar-, or wind-powered plants causes no air pollutants.
• Performance benefits. Electric motors provide quiet, smooth operation and stronger acceleration and require less maintenance than internal combustion engines (ICEs).
• Reduced energy dependence. Electricity is a domestic energy source.

All-Electric Vehicles

All-electric vehicles (EVs) are efficient, produce no tailpipe emissions, and help increase energy security. See if an EV is right for you!

www.fueleconomy.gov

Conservatives like to conserve the status quo. Hence the name. They are never involved in progress. That's why they aren't called progressives.

 

[Old Rocks]

Interesting. The argument that windmills were killing birds I thought was garbage but I didn't know they were killing important birds and bats.

By fulfilling their ecological roles, bats promote biodiversity and support the health of their ecosystems. The ecological roles of bats include pollinating and dispersing the seeds of hundreds of species of plants.

Thanks for educating me.

They have been experimenting with paint patterns on the blades to warn birds, I think that they should try sound for bats. Any kill of birds and bats is bad, and we should try to remedy that.

 

[sealybobo]

I don't get your points.
There are no trails for electric bikes that restrict motorized vehicles.
Electric bikes are motorized and follow the same restrictions.
The fact most people do not ride far is because off road trails need slower speeds, and has nothing to do with anything.
The fact you ride 60 miles is not very much.
That is just 30 miles each way.

New products are not good for the economy at all.
It means new production facilities have to be built, while old ones abandoned.
And electric vehicles are mostly production of China, which has the rare earth element monopoly.

The macomb orchard trail I took recently is 23.5 miles each way. That's 47 miles. It's 6 miles around Stony Creek Metropark. So 53 miles. No fucking way unless you are an athlete you could do all this in a day. We did it but it took us forever. And the Macomb Trail is so flat and paved that I did it all with only using power 1 on my battery. I was worried my two batteries couldn't do 53 miles but when it's flat and paved it's easy.

Anyways, unless you are an athlete you can't make this trip with us unless you have a Ebike. MAYBE you could do just the Macomb Orchard trail but you couldn't keep up with us. You would have to take too many breaks and you wouldn't keep up with our pace.

Not trying to argue I'm trying to convince anyone who can afford $2500 ebike it's a life changer. But you have to have friends to go with. So if you have a wife you like to ride with, $5000 for 2 bikes. Don't be cheap and only get 1 battery for each bike. You'll want to go farther than that one battery can go. I've had such a blast I have hardly gone on my boat this summer. Every Saturday and Sunday I ask my friends where we are going to go next. Either we are going to the country or Detroit this Sunday. Have you ever tried a Ebike? You should see the smile on people's faces when they try mine. Like HOLY SHIT. Yea, it's great.

 

[sealybobo]

They have been experimenting with paint patterns on the blades to warn birds, I think that they should try sound for bats. Any kill of birds and bats is bad, and we should try to remedy that.

Birds not so much. Depends on what kind of bird. I saw a thing once what if humans disappeared from earth. Billions of birds would also die because they depend on our garbage or bird feeders to survive.

 

[Rigby5]

You know my fan has a guard around it so I can't touch the blades? We could do something like that so the birds can't get in.

We better take down all the electrical lines we use now

Collisions with power transmission and distribution lines may kill anywhere from hundreds of thousands to 175 million birds annually, and power lines electrocute tens to hundreds of thousands more birds annually, but these utilities are poorly monitored for both strikes and electrocutions.

Attaching whistles to the blades might do it?

But I think you are wrong on power lines.
No only are the birds fully aware of power lines, but they love them.
They provide a warm roosting spot in cold winters.
Power lines can not electrocute birds, as they would have to touch both positive and negative at the same time, and they are kept over 3' apart.

The really dangerous ones are the thermal solar, because the birds have no idea they might be flying into a concentrated solar collector zone up to 1000 degrees, but totally invisible.