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The macomb orchard trail I took recently is 23.5 miles each way. That's 47 miles. It's 6 miles around Stony Creek Metropark. So 53 miles. No fucking way unless you are an athlete you could do all this in a day. We did it but it took us forever. And the Macomb Trail is so flat and paved that I did it all with only using power 1 on my battery. I was worried my two batteries couldn't do 53 miles but when it's flat and paved it's easy.
Anyways, unless you are an athlete you can't make this trip with us unless you have a Ebike. MAYBE you could do just the Macomb Orchard trail but you couldn't keep up with us. You would have to take too many breaks and you wouldn't keep up with our pace.
Not trying to argue I'm trying to convince anyone who can afford $2500 ebike it's a life changer. But you have to have friends to go with. So if you have a wife you like to ride with, $5000 for 2 bikes. Don't be cheap and only get 1 battery for each bike. You'll want to go farther than that one battery can go. I've had such a blast I have hardly gone on my boat this summer. Every Saturday and Sunday I ask my friends where we are going to go next. Either we are going to the country or Detroit this Sunday. Have you ever tried a Ebike? You should see the smile on people's faces when they try mine. Like HOLY SHIT. Yea, it's great.
Damn, but you are stupid;
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Bullshit. None of the bike trails in MI allow motorized vehicles. In fact at one point Ebikes weren't allowed but some cripple sued and that is no longer true. You can not take your motorized vehicles on any of these trials.
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You are mistaken.
You can not ride a normal bike 60 miles. Unless you are a trained athlete. Fat ass Donald Trump could ride 60 miles on my bike except his fat ass would get sore after 30.
No E bikes don't follow the same restrictions. There are actually 3 levels of Ebikes. The higher level ones might have the same restrictions but not my Ebike. No throttle on my Ebike. If there is a throttle then maybe you are right but not mine.
Sorry to educate you
Since motorized vehicles are typically not allowed on multiuse trails, this precludes their use on these facilities, as well as in bike lanes and on sidewalks. Some states have instituted age restrictions on the use of e-bikes.
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You may NOT operate a class 2 or class 3 electric bicycle on a linear trail or a rail trail unless authorized by the local authority or agency of the state having jurisdiction over the trail.
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Luckily mine is a class 1. E-Bikes | Rails-to-Trails Conservancy
Birds not so much. Depends on what kind of bird. I saw a thing once what if humans disappeared from earth. Billions of birds would also die because they depend on our garbage or bird feeders to survive.
People in Oregon are stupid? I bet it's a red state.
No it is a strong Democrat state, your prejudice is amusing here.
People in Oregon are stupid? I bet it's a red state.
Only Portland and Eugene (where the university is), are blue.
The rest of the state of OR is very red.
Well, that’s pure bullshit. A bird has to touch current AND ground simultaneously.You know my fan has a guard around it so I can't touch the blades? We could do something like that so the birds can't get in.
We better take down all the electrical lines we use now
Collisions with power transmission and distribution lines may kill anywhere from hundreds of thousands to 175 million birds annually, and power lines electrocute tens to hundreds of thousands more birds annually, but these utilities are poorly monitored for both strikes and electrocutions.
Unless they are endangered, I'm not losing sleep over some birds. Or if they are important to the econsystem like you showed me bats are.Attaching whistles to the blades might do it?
But I think you are wrong on power lines.
No only are the birds fully aware of power lines, but they love them.
They provide a warm roosting spot in cold winters.
Power lines can not electrocute birds, as they would have to touch both positive and negative at the same time, and they are kept over 3' apart.
The really dangerous ones are the thermal solar, because the birds have no idea they might be flying into a concentrated solar collector zone up to 1000 degrees, but totally invisible.
Well, that’s pure bullshit. A bird has to touch current AND ground simultaneously.
Sorry but no motorized vehicles on the multi purpose trails. And guess what? The trails would be full of mopeds if they were allowed. But they are not. So you don't see them. Not one. I've covered hundreds of miles and not a one. And I showed you the rules/laws.You are not making any sense.
When you put an electric motor on an eBike, it is motorized.
If some park person thinks that they can differentiate between high output eBikes and low output mopeds, they are mistaken.
They are in violation of the law.
And that goes for wheelchair as well, since there are internal combustion wheel chairs.
Mopeds are legal anywhere a bicycle is according to all the laws I have read.
And what some park person writes is not law.
They can not legally discriminate like that.
Okay, that's dumb. Where do you think the electricity comes from to charge your battery? That's right, oil and coal.I’m just trying to explain why these bikes are so great. Out of shape 50 year old riding 70 miles on a Saturday? I’m hooked.
Oh, and currently I’ll admit these batteries suck. The technology needs to get better. It would be great if riding my bike charged my battery. I hear some do this. Mine doesn’t. And it’s about the size of a loaf of bread. And one battery only goes 30 miles give or take depending on ho much help you use. So we all had to buy an extra battery because 30 miles aint shit. $500 for a spare battery.
Ebikes are the reason batteries will get better. It’s a billion dollar industry. You republicans should love a new industry. You only hate it because your oil and coal lobbyist loving politicians are paid to deny global warming.
Yes yes yes we've gone over that before. It's better a coal or oil run factory make us vehicles that don't pollute and then we aren't all running around spewing poison into the atmosphere. Just one factory is producing pollution in an effort to make us green bikes.Okay, that's dumb. Where do you think the electricity comes from to charge your battery? That's right, oil and coal.
Until you factor in the manufacturing of the very toxic batteries and their disposal when they crap out.Yes yes yes we've gone over that before. It's better a coal or oil run factory make us vehicles that don't pollute and then we aren't all running around spewing poison into the atmosphere. Just one factory is producing pollution in an effort to make us green bikes.
What makes a gas guzzling harley or moped? Oh that's right. A coal/gas plant. So your way we pollute to make the bikes and then the bikes pollute after that. My way we pollute to make the bike and then the bike doesn't pollute.
What about manufacturing a moped and the very toxic fumes they omit?Until you factor in the manufacturing of the very toxic batteries and their disposal when they crap out.
Until you factor in the manufacturing of the very toxic batteries and their disposal when they crap out.
What do you mean by suddenly? I'm simply pointing out that electric vehicles really aren't all that "green" when you account for their entire life cycle. You can feel good that you're not spewing gasses into the air when you're riding that bike, but the batteries pose a big disposal problem.What about manufacturing a moped and the very toxic fumes they omit?
Suddenly you're thinking green? Worried about disposal of our garbage? Wow! This issue has made you very progressively liberal. Love it!
Ebikes are better for what? For a trip of a few miles, the extra time it takes on a bike may not be significant. Making a trip into town and covering 50 miles in a day, OTOH, requires something faster.I found this interesting. From 2008 someone wrote
Motorcycles and scooters are an appealing alternative to shelling out big bucks filling up the family truckster, which is one reason sales are going through the roof. But riding on two wheels may not be any more environmentally responsible than riding on four. Turns out the average motorcycle is 10 times more polluting per mile […]
So you see, Ebikes are better. For one reason, I have to peddle to make mine move. So I'm getting some exercise. And I'm not polluting like a motorcycle is. Which is 10 times worse than a car! And if I use full power it's like you are Captain America and you can ride 4 times as far as a regular bike. Trust me, ride one for 4 hours and you'll say "damn I got to get me one of these. What state do you live in? I want to see how many bike trails you have.
Corvallis has a university as well ... Rouge Valley is quite moderate ... even K Falls is moving towards the center ... the incident at the People's Democratic Republic of Malhuer Federal Wildlife Refuge (or PDRMFWR for short) was strictly out-of-staters ... so even in Sub-Idaho's ranging areas, we see a distinct centering ... in Oregon, conservatives hug trees, liberal spike them ... and we call girls who can out-run her brothers a virgin ...
