The best analysis yet on the Iran conflict from the viewpoint of identity...

[Dogmaphobe]

Eagle and Dogma are in a circle jerk.

I ring the bell.

The little sheeple salivate.

 

[justoffal]

Many ARE like them, son.

You are not wrong however there is a large population of secular Iranians who despise the insane Islamic fundamentalist government that has suppressed them for so long. Iran also have some excellent schools of learning that produce very good engineers as is exhibited by their homegrown war machinery.

I have worked with a number of Iranian engineers in my career who were very impressive inasmuch as their knowledge and capabilities. Real scientific knowledge of the actual world is something that is not tied to a religious belief or a nationality and remains neutral to all of those things in the minds of those who truly practice the actual physics. That type of bond transcends the primitive segmentations of human society.

Unfortunately breaking loose from the insane regime is going to cost an awful lot in bloodshed. There may however be no alternative.

 

[justoffal]

I ring the bell.

The little sheeple salivate.

Uncle Pavlov! Is that you?"

 

[Cassandro]

Iran can easily turn this into a holy war against the Great Satan and Israel

It already has. Haven't you been paying attention?

 

[justoffal]

It already has. Haven't you been paying attention?

You have to forgive them they keep thinking that there's another shoe to drop that's going to end Trump's career overnight. These people go to bed every night throwing darts at a picture of trump on the wall and completely ignoring world events such as they unfold. This particular poster I believe has a small, teddy bear sized effigy of Trump that he tortures every night with knives and needles without which activity he is unable to sleep. So if you find them lacking in general knowledge current events you will now understand why.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Iran can easily turn this into a holy war against the Great Satan and Israel

In other words, no change whatsoever from the last 47 years.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It already has. Haven't you been paying attention?

Knowing nothing about the world whatsoever is a prerequisite for being a Democrat these days.

 

[rightwinger]

In other words, no change whatsoever from the last 47 years.

Except the Strait of Hormuz remains closed due to Trump

Trump is asking the people of Iran to choose himself and Israel over the Mullahs

 

[Hafar1014]

The national message of Iran's people is always "sacrifice" and "martyrdom."

Thats the regime not the people

 

[Churchill]

Its only a matter of time before they collapse.

Yes, a lot of people are saying that about Israel.

 

[rightwinger]

It is until it isn't. If the powerplants get destroyed they will need to rethink their Holy war.

I don’t think it is that easy

Aside from the humanitarian aspects, I doubt it will lead to surrender

That is why Trump keeps kicking the can down the road

 

[struth]

Except the Strait of Hormuz remains closed due to Trump

Trump is asking the people of Iran to choose himself and Israel over the Mullahs

When did Trump close it?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Except the Strait of Hormuz remains closed due to Trump

Trump is asking the people of Iran to choose himself and Israel over the Mullahs

You have already made it clear that you support the Mullahs.

No need to elaborate.

 

[BackAgain]

I thought this article laid out quite accurately exactly what the motivation is in the country of Iran itself. I don't think this viewpoint represents 100% of the country in fact I don't think it represents a majority of the country but it does represent the viewpoint of those who are making the decisions.

How the US and Israel are making the Islamic republic stronger

The war is feeding into a theological narrative of martyrdom and sacrifice that is helping maintain the Islamic Republic

www.aljazeera.com

Oh.

Aljazera. Ok.

 

[Churchill]

When did Trump close it?

He didn't close it, he asked for it to be closed like the clever little man he is.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Yes, a lot of people are saying that about Israel.

True.

There are nearly two billion of you Muslims in the world today, and the vast majority share your hatred.

 

[Churchill]

True.

There are nearly two billion of you Muslims in the world today, and the vast majority share your hatred.

There are only about 32 of you fanatical maga extremists on this forum out of a membership of 48,000, tell me how does it feel to be utterly irrelevant?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

There are only about 32 of you fanatical maga extremists on this forum out of a membership of 48,000, tell me how does it feel to be utterly irrelevant?

I am neither an extremist nor MAGA. You, however, are still here to deceive.

"Churchill", indeed.

 

[Hafar1014]

Yes, a lot of people are saying that about Israel.

After 5000 years of flourishing dont bet on it.

 

[Churchill]

I am neither an extremist nor MAGA. You, however, are still here to deceive.

You're a Zionist shill pretending to be a normal human being.

"Churchill", indeed.

Mr. Churchill to you.