The aftermath of Trump's acquittal in his second impeachment trial

[Sandy Shanks]

It would be uncommon for Democrats to NOT lie about anything Trump said or did.

Yeah, so? Your point?

 

[Sandy Shanks]

As usual, Trump's own big mouth gets him in trouble. This time it may land him in prison.

CNN reports, "Donald Trump once said he calculated his net worth, to a degree, on his "feelings," and that he put the "best spin" on some of the assets.'

"I think everybody" exaggerates about the value of their properties. "Who wouldn't?"

"Did he inflate values? "Not beyond reason," Trump said, insisting he gave his "opinion" to a key associate and "ultimately" let that person make the decision, according to an exchange in a 2007 deposition.

"The exchange takes on fresh meaning this spring as Manhattan prosecutors investigate whether Trump's "best spin" was common practice in local real estate circles -- or if he crossed the line into illegal activity."

 

[kaz]

It would be uncommon for Democrats to NOT lie about anything Trump said or did.

Yeah, so? Your point?

Most of the lies you are referring to were actually you morons lying about Trump, not Trump lying.

You didn't get that? Seriously? You went to government schools, didn't you?

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Most of the lies you are referring to were actually you morons lying about Trump, not Trump lying.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Do you?

Why do Trump's followers have such a difficult time explaining themselves?

Is it because they are making no sense?

 

[kaz]

Most of the lies you are referring to were actually you morons lying about Trump, not Trump lying.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Do you?

Why do Trump's followers have such a difficult time explaining themselves?

Is it because they are making no sense?

Sandy Sharks: It would not be uncommon for Trump supporters to lie

kaz: It would be uncommon for Democrats to not lie about Trump

Sandy Sharks: Whoa, kaz, I can't read that! What does it say?

Moron

 

[Sandy Shanks]

I have said on several occasions that Trump can be hilarious at times. He showed us his remarkable humor just the other day.

Trump called for a boycott of Major League Baseball, claiming league officials made their decision because "they are afraid of the Radical Left Democrats who do not want voter I.D., which is desperately needed, to have anything to do with our elections."

Of course, he simplified matters for his intelligence challenged followers. The new Georgia voter law with its harsh restrictions was much more than just voter I.D. Trump needs to keep things simple for his followers.

Trump continued with his statement, "Boycott baseball," Trump urged, "and all of the woke companies that are interfering with Free and Fair Elections. Are you listening Coke, Delta, and all!"

So, now he is calling Major League Baseball, Coke, Delta, some of the huge corporations in Georgia racist. Who is interfering in "Free and Fair Elections?"

Yeah, he can be funny sometimes.

No doubt his looney tunes followers will give up on one their biggest pastimes to accommodate their leader.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

I have said on several occasions that Trump can be hilarious at times. He showed us his remarkable humor just the other day.

Trump is getting hysterical.

Axios is now reporting, "In his new statement, he said: "Boycott Major League Baseball, Coca-Cola, Delta Airlines, JPMorgan Chase, ViacomCBS, Citigroup, Cisco, UPS, and Merck."

"Trump accused "Radical Left Democrats" of playing dirty by boycotting companies that offend them. [Trump is doing the boycotting. He even said so.]

• "Now they are going big time with WOKE CANCEL CULTURE and our sacred elections," Trump said.
• "It is finally time for Republicans and Conservatives to fight back — we have more people than they do — by far!" [Now that's funny] he added, before making a series of complaints, including about the 2020 presidential election, and then wishing: "Happy Easter!"

This is the leader of the Republican Party? Little wonder as to why so many Republican lawmakers are quitting.

Of course, Trump is just grabbing attention with his outrageous remarks. He did it for four years as President. No one is shocked by Trump acting like an idiot. It is what he does.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Trump is doing his best to take the Republican Party down with him as his devoted followers remain silent.

Trump is getting hysterical.

Axios is now reporting, "In his new statement, he said: "Boycott Major League Baseball, Coca-Cola, Delta Airlines, JPMorgan Chase, ViacomCBS, Citigroup, Cisco, UPS, and Merck."

Republicans and corporate America are on the outs.

NBC News reports, "In the past week alone, American Airlines and computer company Dell came out strongly against GOP-led bills that place restrictions on voting in their home base of Texas. South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, a rising star in Republican Party, continued to take heat for nixing a bill that would have imposed a ban on transgender athletes in sports, citing the potential impact on her state's bottom line. And conservatives spent days bashing "vaccine passports" some businesses think are needed to return to normal.

"And then there was Georgia, where the Republican-controlled state House narrowly voted to end a tax break worth millions that Delta enjoys on jet fuel after the airline's CEO. (The GOP-led state Senate did not take up the measure.) The CEO of Coca-Cola, another major Atlanta-based business — condemned new voting restrictions in the state. On Friday, Major League Baseball pulled this year's All-Star Game out of Atlanta in protest of that same law."

Republicans were outraged.

Such public dust-ups between businesses and members of the GOP are becoming more frequent, The shift is the product of a Republican Party increasingly driven by "culture war" issues that animate a base invigorated by Trump and corporate powerhouses that are under more pressure than ever to align themselves with the left on voting rights, LGBTQ rights and anti-racist efforts.

Culture wars strain once unshakeable bond between Republicans, corporate America

"Talking about corporate tax cuts and reducing burdensome regulations doesn't do it for our new voters," one Republican lobbyist said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Sandy Shanks]

This guy was a member of Trump's devoted flock.

The Times reports, "Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida, was one of President Donald J. Trump’s most vocal allies during his term, publicly pledging loyalty and even signing a letter nominating the president for the Nobel Peace Prize.

"In the final weeks of Mr. Trump’s term, Mr. Gaetz sought something in return. He privately asked the White House for blanket pre-emptive pardons for himself and unidentified congressional allies for any crimes they may have committed, according to two people told of the discussions.

"Around that time, Mr. Gaetz was also publicly calling for broad pardons from Mr. Trump to thwart what he termed the “bloodlust” of their political opponents. But Justice Department investigators had begun questioning Mr. Gaetz’s associates about his conduct, including whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old that violated sex trafficking laws, in an inquiry that grew out of the case of an indicted associate in Florida."

Trump is the titular head of the Republican Party. Ironically, his followers avoid him, as shown on this thread and many others.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Trump is the titular head of the Republican Party. Ironically, his followers avoid him, as shown on this thread and many others.

I have said several times the Republican Party is in a heap of trouble. No Republican on this forum has disputed that fact.

The party has spent the first months of the Biden administration rewriting electoral laws to suppress minority votes and denying the truth of Trump's Capitol insurrection.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell unleashed a fearsome attack on "woke" corporations that reacted to a discriminatory voting law in Georgia. McConnell, at least in his rhetoric, sounded a lot like Trump with his countless lies. "Businesses must not use economic blackmail to spread disinformation and push bad ideas that citizens reject at the ballot box," McConnell said.

No one knows what McConnell is talking about. Again, that is reminiscent of Trump's four years in the Oval Office. Half the time, no one knew what he was talking about, either. What economic blackmail and, if so, what caused it? What disinformation? What bad ideas? When did citizens reject bad ideas at the ballot box?

In fact, what Georgia voters rejected at the ballot box -- causing the GOP to change the laws -- was a second term for Trump and two Republican senators.

But, of course, McConnell is speaking to Trump's uninformed, intelligence challenged cult members. They are likely to believe everything McConnell says regardless of reality.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

The Times reports, "Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida, was one of President Donald J. Trump’s most vocal allies during his term, publicly pledging loyalty and even signing a letter nominating the president for the Nobel Peace Prize.

According to the Times, "In the final weeks of Mr. Trump’s term, Mr. Gaetz sought something in return. He privately asked the White House for blanket pre-emptive pardons for himself and unidentified congressional allies for any crimes they may have committed."

Today's Republican leaders are so stupidly transparent. Here is what the former Republican President had to say on the subject.

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) “has never asked me for a pardon."

Why didn't Trump just keep his mouth shut? Answer: That isn't Trump's way. Gaetz is getting a lot of attention lately. So, Trump wants some of that attention no matter how damaging that attention might be and no matter how stupid it makes him look.

That is Trump's way.

Gaetz was willing to play along.

Gaetz told POLITICO Tuesday night that he stood by a previous statement denying he asked Trump for pardon.

It is one thing to deny an allegation. It is quite another matter to stupidly deny an allegation that was never made. That is exactly what Trump and Gaetz just did.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell unleashed a fearsome attack on "woke" corporations that reacted to a discriminatory voting law in Georgia. McConnell, at least in his rhetoric, sounded a lot like Trump with his countless lies. "Businesses must not use economic blackmail to spread disinformation and push bad ideas that citizens reject at the ballot box," McConnell said.

No one knows what McConnell is talking about. Again, that is reminiscent of Trump's four years in the Oval Office. Half the time, no one knew what he was talking about, either. What economic blackmail and, if so, what caused it? What disinformation? What bad ideas? When did citizens reject bad ideas at the ballot box?

McConnell took back his misrepresentations from the previous day then created new misrepresentations in typical Republican fashion.

ABC News reports, "Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., softened his stance on corporations getting involved in politics on Wednesday, a day after he warned companies not to weigh in on hot button issues."

"I didn’t say that very artfully yesterday, they're certainly entitled to be involved in politics, they are," he told reporters on Wednesday.

"My principal complaint is they didn't read the darn bill," McConnell added.

Of course, he is lying. McConnell has no way of knowing that corporate lawyers and CEO'S didn't read the bill. In fact, it is quite likely they did before putting out a statement or moving the All Star game to Denver.

"They got intimidated into adopting an interpretation ... given by the Georgia Democrats in order to help get their way," McConnell said.

Now McConnell is saying the corporate leaders are stupid and politically vulnerable to persuasion. Was it Georgia Democrats or was it the voting restrictions in the new law because Republicans didn''t like that Georgia voted for the Democratic President and two Democratic Senators that gave control of the Senate to Democrats.

More than likely it was the latter.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Today's Republican leaders are so stupidly transparent. Here is what the former Republican President had to say on the subject.

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) “has never asked me for a pardon."

Trump's friend is in serious trouble.

The Post reports, "A Florida politician at the center of an investigation into Rep. Matt Gaetz is negotiating with federal prosecutors to resolve his own sex-trafficking and other charges, a potentially ominous sign for Gaetz if his associate decides to cooperate in a bid for leniency.

"Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector for Seminole County, Fla., was initially charged last summer in a bare-bones indictment that prosecutors have since superseded, adding charges of sex trafficking of a minor, stealing from the tax office and even trying to use fraud to get coronavirus relief money while out on bond.

"At a status conference in Greenberg’s case on Thursday, federal prosecutor Roger Handberg told a judge that he expected a plea, though negotiations are ongoing. Fritz Scheller, an attorney for Greenberg, asked the judge to set a deadline of May 15 for the two sides to either reach a deal or move toward a trial in the summer."

Asked after the court hearing if the possible plea could spell trouble for Gaetz, Scheller said, “I’m sure Matt Gaetz is not feeling very comfortable today.”

 

[Sandy Shanks]

I have said several times the Republican Party is in a heap of trouble. No Republican on this forum has disputed that fact.

The Times agrees with me. I have been following politics for over 50 years. This is the strangest phenomenon I have ever seen. Essentially, one major political party is destroying itself. I will allow the Times to explain.

It writes, "Republican lawmakers are passing voting restrictions to pacify right-wing activists still gripped by former President Donald J. Trump’s lie that a largely favorable election was rigged against them. G.O.P. leaders are lashing out in Trumpian fashion at businesses, baseball and the news media to appeal to many of the same conservatives and voters. And debates over the size and scope of government have been overshadowed by the sort of culture war clashes that the tabloid king relishes.

"This is the party Mr. Trump has remade.

"As G.O.P. leaders and donors gather for a party retreat in Palm Beach this weekend, with a side trip to Mar-a-Lago for a reception with Mr. Trump on Saturday night, the former president’s pervasive influence in Republican circles has revealed a party thoroughly animated by a defeated incumbent — a bizarre turn of events in American politics.

"Barred from Twitter, quietly disdained by many Republican officials and reduced to receiving supplicants in his tropical exile in Florida, Mr. Trump has found ways to exert an almost gravitational hold on a leaderless party just three months after the assault on the Capitol that his critics hoped would marginalize the man and taint his legacy."

Strangely enough, his followers on this forum avoid him. They allow Trump's critics to have their way with him while remaining largely silent, rarely starting a discussion about him.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

I have said several times the Republican Party is in a heap of trouble. No Republican on this forum has disputed that fact.

The Republican Party is in the grip of uninformed, intelligence challenged voters. They are Trump's followers.

That is the hold Trump has on the GOP and there isn't a thing anyone can do about it. As a consequence, the GOP will continue to lose elections.

The first spring donor retreat after a defeat for a political party is typically a moment of reflection and renewal as officials chart a new direction forward.

But with former President Donald J. Trump determined to keep his grip on the Republican Party and the party’s base as adhered to him as ever, the coming together of the Republican National Committee’s top donors in South Florida this weekend is less a moment of reset and more a reminder of the continuing tensions and schisms roiling the G.O.P.

The same former president who last month sent the R.N.C. a cease-and-desist letter demanding they stop using his likeness to raise money will on Saturday evening serve as the party’s fund-raising headliner.

“A tremendous complication” was how Fred Zeidman, a veteran Republican fund-raiser in Texas, described Mr. Trump’s lingering presence on the political scene.

The delicate dance between Mr. Trump and the party — after losing the House, the Senate and the White House on his watch — will manifest in some actual shuttle bus diplomacy on Saturday, as the party’s top donors attend a series of receptions and panels at the Four Seasons Resort before traveling to Mar-a-Lago, the former president’s private club, to hear Mr. Trump speak.

Mr. Trump’s insistence on leading the party “affects every member,” Mr. Zeidman said, as lawmakers and would-be elected officials jockey for a Trump endorsement that was as powerful in a Republican primary as it could be problematic in a general election.

Trump Lashes His Enemies Anew as G.O.P. Dances Around His Presence (Published 2021)

A gathering of Republican leaders and top donors in Florida this weekend is less a reset of priorities and more a reminder of the tensions that Donald J. Trump instills in his party.

www.nytimes.com

 

[surada]

It would be uncommon for Democrats to NOT lie about anything Trump said or did.

Yeah, so? Your point?

Most of the lies you are referring to were actually you morons lying about Trump, not Trump lying.

You didn't get that? Seriously? You went to government schools, didn't you?

They have 4 years of Trump's tweets and video.. Trump is a liar and a cheat. He has been for 40 years. Its all on record.

 

[Staidhup]

Apparently some people are still preoccupied with the legacy of the Donald, well considering their man Joe, or rather Charlie McCarthy, has to offer it ain’t much.

 

[kaz]

It would be uncommon for Democrats to NOT lie about anything Trump said or did.

Yeah, so? Your point?

Most of the lies you are referring to were actually you morons lying about Trump, not Trump lying.

You didn't get that? Seriously? You went to government schools, didn't you?

They have 4 years of Trump's tweets and video.. Trump is a liar and a cheat. He has been for 40 years. Its all on record.

Four years of misquotes of what Trump said proves you're the liar, not him

 

[surada]

It would be uncommon for Democrats to NOT lie about anything Trump said or did.

Yeah, so? Your point?

Most of the lies you are referring to were actually you morons lying about Trump, not Trump lying.

You didn't get that? Seriously? You went to government schools, didn't you?

They have 4 years of Trump's tweets and video.. Trump is a liar and a cheat. He has been for 40 years. Its all on record.

Four years of misquotes of what Trump said proves you're the liar, not him

There is NO reason to misquote Trump.. He tweeted all day and was on TV at lest 4 times a week.. so they have him on video. Trump is a vulgar gasbag and not bright.

 

[surada]

Apparently some people are still preoccupied with the legacy of the Donald, well considering their man Joe, or rather Charlie McCarthy, has to offer it ain’t much.

As of today Trump is still claiming he won the election. How pitiful is that?