Hello all, this is my first post here after reading for a couple of days and is mostly for quad, while I think your ideas for a utopian society are commendable you must understand they will never actually work in reality, also you keep referring to our government as a democracy which it is not or was never intended to be, our system of gov. is a constitutional republic which protects the rights of the minority as well as the majority unfortunately the left wing politicians have twisted this around and used it to their benefit and to be fair right wing politicians have had their hand in this also, here is a quote from Professor Alexander Tyler circa 1787
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money (generous gifts) from the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."
"The average age of the world's greatest civilization has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence.
From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance,
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency,
from complacency to apathy,
from apathy to dependency,
from dependence back into bondage."
As you can see democracy is a bad idea and this is why our founding fathers decided not to subject this great nation to the pitfalls of such a system.
Now on to some of the comments you made about gun control being a success in England, this is just simply not the case in England or any other country with strict gun control laws and I will provide facts to support this statement, I prefer to deal in facts it makes things much easier when trying to prove a point.
Here is a quote from Joyce Lee Malcolm from an article about Englands gun control laws.
"Gun crime in England is just part of an increasingly lawless environment. From 1991 to 1995, crimes against the person in EnglandÂ’s inner cities increased 91 percent. And in the four years from 1997 to 2001, the rate of violent crime more than doubled. Your chances of being mugged in London are now six times greater than in New York. EnglandÂ’s rates of assault, robbery, and burglary are far higher than AmericaÂ’s, and 53 percent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, compared with 13 percent in the U.S., where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more than the police. In a United Nations study of crime in 18 developed nations published in July, England and Wales led the Western worldÂ’s crime league, with nearly 55 crimes per 100 people".
Here is another quote from Ed Chenel a police officer in Australia where it is now illegal to own a handgun,
"It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent!) In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)
These are facts that can not be disputed period, but most liberals (I'm not saying you are a liberal because I have no way of knowing that) for some reason think that they will be able to succeed at something others have failed at by throwing more of my money at it.
Thats about all I have to say right now please let me know what you think.
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