Mike Lee introduces bill to abolish the TSA

[toobfreak]

I support the tsa.

Well good for you. I said nothing about not supporting safety or the TSA, I commented on their crappy methods. I know for a fact that the Israelis do a way better job without all of the bullshit.

Besides, from what I've seen, half the flights end up with crazies on board anyway.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Disagree. Much better now.

TSA can’t find guns, simulated bombs, waste hours of travelers time, checks eighty year olds rather than military age males that look Muslim.

 

[Independent thinker]

Mike Lee introduces bill to abolish the TSA ​

The Utah senator has long called for the elimination of the federal agency, calling it invasive to travelers’ privacy​

Mike Lee pushes to abolish the TSA with new legislation

The Utah senator has long called for the elimination of the federal agency, calling it invasive to travelers’ privacy.

www.deseret.com

27 Mar 2025 ~~ By Cami Mondeaux

Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, is renewing efforts to fully eliminate the Transportation Security Administration, accusing the federal agency of inefficiency and invading travelers’ privacy.
Lee, along with Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., introduced the Abolish the TSA Act on Thursday, which would dissolve the TSA and establish a separate Office of Aviation Security Oversight to manage airport security. The office would operate completely under the Federal Aviation Administration and transfer security activities and equipment to private companies instead.

“The TSA has not only intruded into the privacy and personal space of most Americans, it has also repeatedly failed tests to find weapons and explosives,” Lee said in a statement. “Our bill privatizes security functions at American airports under the eye of an Office of Aviation Security Oversight, bringing this bureaucratic behemoth to a welcome end. American families can travel safely without feeling the hands of an army of federal employees.”​

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Senators argue TSA is “not equipped” to manage fast-moving threats posed to aviation transportation, claiming the agency has become oversized into a “bureaucratic leviathan.”
The pair cited a 2015 report that found TSA agents missed 95% of mock explosive and banned weapons during checkpoint screenings and that agents failed 67 out of 70 tests conducted by undercover investigators.
Instead, the senators say that a switch to private security with limited government oversight would increase efficiency and safety, pointing to a high percentage of European airports that utilize privatized security screenings.
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Under TSA guidelines, travelers may be subject to a pat-down if the screening technology is set off, which includes “inspection of the head, neck, arms, torso, legs, and feet.” That inspection may also include sensitive areas, according to the TSA website.
Lee has repeatedly criticized those practices, calling them “needlessly slow” and invasive.


Commentary:
Certainly, we want certain and need security to be done, but it should be done without waste and unnecessary invasions of privacy. Who cares what the agency is called?
I am years over 80 and when I have to fly, I still get “chosen” for special screening...still, much of the time, I have to take off my shoes, unbuckle my leg-brace uncrate computer from bag, take off belt belt..and ALWAYS get shouted at and treated like a resident of a maximum security prison. I yearn for a small return to the great days of flying.

Yeah, DEI has gotten ridiculous. In order not to be discriminatory we have to go through white US citizens senior's items while we let Muslims pass right through.

 

[Doc7505]

Lol, how do explain 911 then. I guess you and I have a different view of doing well. Hilarious

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To begin with CIA intelligence had already tagged the Bojinka plot in 1995 through the capture of Ramzī Ahmad Yūsuf the mastermind of the WTC 1993 bombing.
Journalists and Congressional investigators have connected the dots tracing the terror trail backward from last year's 9-11 attack to Oklahoma City and the earlier World Trade Center bombing.
The importance of this could not have been lost on federal authorities. In 2001, in the months preceding the 9-11 attacks, U.S. prosecutors focused on al-Qaeda use of U.S. flight schools in their high-profile trial of four men charged in the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Essam al-Ridi, an Egyptian trained at a Texas flight school, was one of their star witnesses. Ihab Ali Nawawi, identified by prosecutors as a member of Egyptian Islamic Jihad and a bin Laden confederate, had received pilot training at the same school in Norman, Oklahoma, near Oklahoma City, where some of al-Qaeda's 9-11 hijackers were trained.
The FBI hierarchy chose to ignore the possibility of terrorists being trained in America to fly planes even when warned by FBI agents .
So was it poor choices of leadership by Bill Clinton, during those crucial years or was it individuals like Reno, Freeh, Gates, Woolsey, Deitch, or Tenet that were incapable of maintaining our National security.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Love to see it happen, but it won't.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Airport security did quite well before TSA.

Care to rephrase that?

 

[The Duke]

Yep, we shouldn't check people correct? Expanding the govt by 2/3 means making it smaller. Scale factors always multiply. For many $ is always the biggest factor. Safety is secondary? Wow oh wow.

That extra government hasn't done a fuckin' thing. STFU, moron.
You are less safe now than you were in 1986. All of it needs to go and the people need more power.

 

[The Duke]

Perhaps you can explain how an investment bank is going to run airport security.

I will refrain from name calling and let the stupidity speak for itself.

Rock/water..wtf ever.

 

[The Duke]

TSA can’t find guns, simulated bombs, waste hours of travelers time, checks eighty year olds rather than military age males that look Muslim.

Dude, when I saw that relative's dressing case that I'd been seeing for 30 years and they always took it flying and they told me what TSA did, I got mad..hoo I got mad. There was no call for that.
They didn't tell me to begin with, I noticed the case all tore up.
They never flew again. That was it.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Airport security was always always private before 9/11.
They failed, (can't really blame them), The FBI failed, The CIA failed, The NSA failed,
who knows how many other already established government agencies failed to
stop 9/11 from happening.
So what does W. Bush do? Expands the Federal government by 2/3 and shit, creates a bunch of new stuff instead of fixing what's broken already. Starts the TSA and DHS.
And airplane passengers have been getting groped and molestered ever since 2001, but I ain't one of them.
I will not fly until that goes away. Fuck that.

No, airport security did not fail. Before 9/11, box cutters were ALLOWED on planes.

I support the tsa. Don't want safety then don't fly. Spend your time here stuck in the USA.

TSA is theatre. Their failure rate in tests is near-total. (The last one was so bad that it was classified.)

Lol, how do explain 911 then. I guess you and I have a different view of doing well. Hilarious

You don't know what you don't know. Before 9/11, box cutters were allowed on planes.

If people don't want safety then don't gly. Stay stuck here. I'm all for the most stringent safety standards.

No, you're not. You are for security theatre.

 

[evenflow1969]

No, airport security did not fail. Before 9/11, box cutters were ALLOWED on planes.



TSA is theatre. Their failure rate in tests is near-total. (The last one was so bad that it was classified.)



You don't know what you don't know. Before 9/11, box cutters were allowed on planes.



No, you're not. You are for security theatre.

Lol, repugs sure gave alot of excuses these days. You can talk till blue in the face but the fact remains the same. Planes fell from the sky on 911 but have not since.

 

[PeterPilot]

Very good news indeed! They should include DHS in the bill, but they won't. DHS and TSA were born of the deception known as 911, just like the illegitimate Patriot Act, an assault on the Fourth Amendment and more.

 

[PeterPilot]

Lol, repugs sure gave alot of excuses these days. You can talk till blue in the face but the fact remains the same. Planes fell from the sky on 911 but have not since.

What planes fell from the sky? The airplane you saw at WTC was a drone. You didn't get to see the first plane, the one that struck the North Tower. It was not an airliner, not American 11 as you've been conditioned to believe. No airliner at the Pentagon or at Shanksville, though you've been conditioned to believe there were.

 

[evenflow1969]

What planes fell from the sky? The airplane you saw at WTC was a drone. You didn't get to see the first plane, the one that struck the North Tower. It was not an airliner, not American 11 as you've been conditioned to believe. No airliner at the Pentagon or at Shanksville, though you've been conditioned to believe there were.

Lol, just lol.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Lol, repugs sure gave alot of excuses these days. You can talk till blue in the face but the fact remains the same. Planes fell from the sky on 911 but have not since.

You're lying again. You care nothing for facts, you simply want to pour more money into a failed system. Do you have a cushy no-show "job" with the TSA?

 

[Ace Nova]

Nonsense. The TSA has done a solid job, given the hand they were dealt. If they want to make improvements, etc - they need to have a plan in place before just "cutting it".

 

[Doc7505]

AI Overview
Before the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), airport security in the U.S. was handled by private security companies contracted by airlines or airports, and was generally less stringent than the current standards.

Here's a more detailed look at airport security before the TSA:

• Private Security: Airlines and airports themselves hired private security firms to handle screening and security operations.
• Less Stringent Screening: Security measures were less rigorous than they are today, with fewer restrictions on what passengers could bring on board.
• No TSA: The TSA was established in the aftermath of the September 11th terrorist attacks in 2001, and was created by the Aviation and Transportation Security Act.
• Examples of lax security:
• After 9/11: The 9/11 attacks highlighted the weaknesses in the privatized security system, leading to the creation of the TSA and the implementation of stricter security measures.
• TSA's Role: The TSA took over all security functions at the nation's airports, increasing the number of security agents and improving their training.
• Increased Security Measures: Passenger pre-checks became standard, and the percentage of baggage screened for explosives increased.

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Is that the reason why in 95% of tests of airport security, the TSA fails?

TSA fails most tests in latest undercover operation at US airports

Source said the results were an improvement over the same test two years ago.

abcnews.go.com

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The TSA Continues To Miss 95% Of Weapons -- HOW IS THIS OKAY?!?

The results of yet another internal test have been revealed, where TSA agents have missed 95% of weapons that were brought through the checkpoint.

onemileatatime.com

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TSA Fails Deplorably in Latest Undercover Airport Security Tests

A new report by the Department of Homeland Security reveals that TSA screeners, its equipment or its procedures failed more than half of the time.

www.securitysales.com

 

[Doc7505]

Care to rephrase that?
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Aren't one of the conspiracy theorists that claimed the WTC collapses were caused by explosives' planted by the Bus administration.

 

[Care4all]

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Is that the reason why in 95% of tests of airport security, the TSA fails?

TSA fails most tests in latest undercover operation at US airports

Source said the results were an improvement over the same test two years ago.

abcnews.go.com

xxxxxxxxxx​

The TSA Continues To Miss 95% Of Weapons -- HOW IS THIS OKAY?!?

The results of yet another internal test have been revealed, where TSA agents have missed 95% of weapons that were brought through the checkpoint.

onemileatatime.com

xxxxxxxxxx​

TSA Fails Deplorably in Latest Undercover Airport Security Tests

A new report by the Department of Homeland Security reveals that TSA screeners, its equipment or its procedures failed more than half of the time.

www.securitysales.com

You are quite a few years BEHIND....your article is about 2017 compared to 2015....

And as your article said, 3 D imaging scanners were being tested, suppose to help screening, and was suppose to be spread out to major airports, but Trump took the money for it, to use for his WALL in his first term.

If the private sector goes back to being the security again, is fine with me ....if we allow them to be sued from here to high heaven when they mess up!

 

[Doc7505]

You are quite a few years BEHIND....your article is about 2017 compared to 2015....

And as your article said, 3 D imaging scanners were being tested, suppose to help screening, and was suppose to be spread out to major airports, but Trump took the money for it, to use for his WALL in his first term.

If the private sector goes back to being the security again, is fine with me ....if we allow them to be sued from here to high heaven when they mess up!

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It never got any better... in the following years.

TSA’s ‘Fix’ Is A Mirage: Are We Just Settling For Long Lines And 95% Failure Rates? - View from the Wing

There's a growing elite consensus that the TSA has been fixed and is no longer a problem. I think that the narrative is misleading. TSA pays screeners more, so it doesn't have a problem hiring screeners. That's made a difference in security lines at some airports. But that's the only dimension...

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