The 2nd Amendment Wins Again

[2aguy]

Can you provide evidence of said vending machine?

Well you preach that there should be no gun control . So then you would be in favor of guns out of vending machines ! Anything less would mean some sort of gun control was in place .

show me one person here who thinks that convicted felons should be able to buy guns legally

Are you kidding ? What the fuck do you think background checks are for? Most of you gun nuts are against them .

so who here says that any felon should be able to buy a gun?

if there's that many it should be easy to find a quote

I'll ask you. Do you think we should have control?

We already do....and I support it....criminals shoud not be able to buy, own or carry guns.....if anyone uses a gun for a crime they should go to prison.....

That is all the gun control we need....

 

[Skull Pilot]

Can you provide evidence of said vending machine?

Well you preach that there should be no gun control . So then you would be in favor of guns out of vending machines ! Anything less would mean some sort of gun control was in place .

show me one person here who thinks that convicted felons should be able to buy guns legally

Are you kidding ? What the fuck do you think background checks are for? Most of you gun nuts are against them .

so who here says that any felon should be able to buy a gun?

if there's that many it should be easy to find a quote

I'll ask you. Do you think we should have control?

define control

I have no problem not allowing felons to buy guns

But I as a law abiding person who can pass any background check should not be prohibited at all in buying any gun I want, any size magazine I want or from being able to carry concealed anywhere i want

 

[2aguy]

Unlike you that is just plain ugly.

Freedom and the Constitution rule. LLL's quake in the wake of Great American's protecting themselves.

How about the freedom to not be gunned down by some crazy criminal who got a gun out of a vending machine ?

Can you provide evidence of said vending machine?

Well you preach that there should be no gun control . So then you would be in favor of guns out of vending machines ! Anything less would mean some sort of gun control was in place .

show me one person here who thinks that convicted felons should be able to buy guns legally

Are you kidding ? What the fuck do you think background checks are for? Most of you gun nuts are against them .

How does a background check stop a criminal from getting a gun...? Most criminals get their guns from a family member or girlfriend who can pass a background check......making background checks for criminals useless....

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Can you provide evidence of said vending machine?

Well you preach that there should be no gun control . So then you would be in favor of guns out of vending machines ! Anything less would mean some sort of gun control was in place .

show me one person here who thinks that convicted felons should be able to buy guns legally

Are you kidding ? What the fuck do you think background checks are for? Most of you gun nuts are against them .

so who here says that any felon should be able to buy a gun?

if there's that many it should be easy to find a quote

I'll ask you. Do you think we should have control?

That's a very subjective question. What kind of gun control?

 

[Timmy]

Thanks Obama !

Dipshit.....under obama...who has supported the attacks on the police...the gun murder rate started to go up again in 2016.......in all the major cities controlled by anti police democrats...luckily, we elected Trump, who actually supports the police...so the gun murder rate should go back down again......

Hold on. You bragged about the rates going down. They went down under obama.

Now they didn't go down? That makes you a liar then.

After 2015...going into 2016....after Ferguson and obama attacking the police they started going up...after 25 years of going down........25 years of gun murder rates going down, and in one year obama starts them going up again....

Obama has been president for 8 years .

Maybe the killings have gone up because of more guns!! After all these cops are being killed by gunfire .

So much for YOUR theory .

Of just maybe because of liberal threats, cops just quit doing their jobs by being proactive with criminals, and criminals figured it out.

Stop and Frisk worked out great in NYC, but now that it's been put to an end, violent crime is increasing. Criminals know that cops can't just stop them to pat down and find guns being carried illegally.

If you ever read past the 2nd amendment you'd see there's that other one against unreasonable search n seizure .

 

[Rustic]

How does it feel to be pussy whipped?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Dipshit.....under obama...who has supported the attacks on the police...the gun murder rate started to go up again in 2016.......in all the major cities controlled by anti police democrats...luckily, we elected Trump, who actually supports the police...so the gun murder rate should go back down again......

Hold on. You bragged about the rates going down. They went down under obama.

Now they didn't go down? That makes you a liar then.

After 2015...going into 2016....after Ferguson and obama attacking the police they started going up...after 25 years of going down........25 years of gun murder rates going down, and in one year obama starts them going up again....

Obama has been president for 8 years .

Maybe the killings have gone up because of more guns!! After all these cops are being killed by gunfire .

So much for YOUR theory .

Of just maybe because of liberal threats, cops just quit doing their jobs by being proactive with criminals, and criminals figured it out.

Stop and Frisk worked out great in NYC, but now that it's been put to an end, violent crime is increasing. Criminals know that cops can't just stop them to pat down and find guns being carried illegally.

If you ever read past the 2nd amendment you'd see there's that other one against unreasonable search n seizure .

The court didn't stop it, politicians did. Ever hear of a thing called "reasonable suspicion?"

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'll ask you. Do you think we should have control?

Absolutely.

You have no business picking up a gun if you can't control it.

Learn the features before loading it, especially the safety features. Sight it in, understand the range and recoil of the weapon.

A shooter must have control of the weapon.

 

[Uncensored2008]

How does it feel to be pussy whipped?

?????

 

[2aguy]

Well you preach that there should be no gun control . So then you would be in favor of guns out of vending machines ! Anything less would mean some sort of gun control was in place .

show me one person here who thinks that convicted felons should be able to buy guns legally

Are you kidding ? What the fuck do you think background checks are for? Most of you gun nuts are against them .

so who here says that any felon should be able to buy a gun?

if there's that many it should be easy to find a quote

I'll ask you. Do you think we should have control?

That's a very subjective question. What kind of gun control?

They never want to state a specific one.....when they do that they get owned because none of what they say actually works...

 

[Rustic]

New Hampshire is like the ugly step-child of New England.

Unlike you that is just plain ugly.

Freedom and the Constitution rule. LLL's quake in the wake of Great American's protecting themselves.

How about the freedom to not be gunned down by some crazy criminal who got a gun out of a vending machine ?

You need to quit falling down the well, pussy whipped son of a bitches like yourself need to stay in your mothers basement. Snowflake

 

[OKTexas]

More and more States are recognizing their citizens right to self defense, this time NH. With any luck the trend will continue.

From the link:

Republican Gov. Chris Sununu has signed legislation removing the licensing requirement for carrying concealed firearms. A representative from the National Rifle Association says that makes New Hampshire the 12th state that doesn’t require a license or permit.

Now anyone who isn’t prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a gun can carry it concealed without a license. The previous law gave police chiefs and local officials the discretion to decide if someone was ‘‘suitable’’ to carry a gun concealed.

N.H. residents no longer need a license to carry concealed loaded guns - The Boston Globe

Regressives are now free to have another hissy fit.

No longer a problem for the Union, but New Hampshire.

natural rights are still subject to the police power.

Police power only extends to the point the legislature directs.

 

[OKTexas]

More and more States are recognizing their citizens right to self defense, this time NH. With any luck the trend will continue.

From the link:

Republican Gov. Chris Sununu has signed legislation removing the licensing requirement for carrying concealed firearms. A representative from the National Rifle Association says that makes New Hampshire the 12th state that doesn’t require a license or permit.

Now anyone who isn’t prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a gun can carry it concealed without a license. The previous law gave police chiefs and local officials the discretion to decide if someone was ‘‘suitable’’ to carry a gun concealed.

N.H. residents no longer need a license to carry concealed loaded guns - The Boston Globe

Regressives are now free to have another hissy fit.

The NRA wins again at the expense of American lives.

God Bless America.

 

[OKTexas]

You know, Executive Orders are supposed to be only for carrying out laws already passed by Congress (and signed by the Prez).

That would include the U.S. Constitution, which was passed and ratified long ago.

Since Donald Trump is interested in writing Executive Orders to do what the law already says, is there any reason he can't simply issue an EO declaring all so-called "gun control" laws are in violation of the 2nd amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and are now null and void?

Federal, state and local.

No.

Because an executive order can ONLY instruct the executive branch on how to apply or enforce laws.

He could order the FBI not to prosecute people for simple possession of a firearm, but can't do anything about California shitting all over the Constitution with their laws. Only the court can act on that. Which is WHY it was so important to elect Trump, so that he could appoint honest men like Judge Gorsuch.

Technically, the Constitution lays out the powers of the federal government. One of which is it's inability to infringe upon the right to bear arms. Therefore, the feds can't prohibit the right to bear arms.

It also states that all powers reside with the states unless specifically granted to the feds via the Constitution. Unfortunately, the SCOTUS has basically ignored this on multiple occasions. Abortion and marriage being 2 high profile cases.

DJT could order federal enforcement agencies to ignore federal gun restriction statutes and rules with no consequence. Does Congress have the right to strike down all gun control laws has never been tested. Typical SCOTUS rulings hold that fed law trumps state law.

That is why a Constitutionalist SCOTUS is so important. Washington is filled with egos and power hungry individuals. Without the check of an honestly objective court, the rights of all Americans are in peril.

That's why you'll see a national reciprocity law that requires States to recognize other State gun licenses coming very soon. Congress has held it till they had a president that would sign it.

While Pupps personally supports such a law, if Pupps were a justice - Pupps would vote to strike it down. The Fed government doesn't have that right. It belongs to the states on a sovereign basis.

That would be another case of the fed usurping states rights. The Constitution is the law of the land and it clearly states that the federal government cannot infringe upon the right to bear arms and that such authority clearly resides with the sovereign states. As such, it resides with them on an individual basis.

Consequently, imposition of a federal law negating an individual sovereign state's rights in that area is unconstitutional. This is how a Constitutionalist SCOTUS judge would rule.

Consider this justice:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;

14th Amendment

States tried to prohibit blacks from having guns after the emancipation, the 14th addressed that, the 2nd applies to all citizens.

 

[OKTexas]

More and more States are recognizing their citizens right to self defense, this time NH. With any luck the trend will continue.

From the link:

Republican Gov. Chris Sununu has signed legislation removing the licensing requirement for carrying concealed firearms. A representative from the National Rifle Association says that makes New Hampshire the 12th state that doesn’t require a license or permit.

Now anyone who isn’t prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a gun can carry it concealed without a license. The previous law gave police chiefs and local officials the discretion to decide if someone was ‘‘suitable’’ to carry a gun concealed.

N.H. residents no longer need a license to carry concealed loaded guns - The Boston Globe

Regressives are now free to have another hissy fit.

I would be very surprised if the ultra Left states like California and New York ever do this too.

Sure I would like to see it. But I doubt it will ever happen in my lifetime.

Eventually they may not be given a choice.

 

[OKTexas]

More and more States are recognizing their citizens right to self defense, this time NH. With any luck the trend will continue.

From the link:

Republican Gov. Chris Sununu has signed legislation removing the licensing requirement for carrying concealed firearms. A representative from the National Rifle Association says that makes New Hampshire the 12th state that doesn’t require a license or permit.

Now anyone who isn’t prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a gun can carry it concealed without a license. The previous law gave police chiefs and local officials the discretion to decide if someone was ‘‘suitable’’ to carry a gun concealed.

N.H. residents no longer need a license to carry concealed loaded guns - The Boston Globe

Regressives are now free to have another hissy fit.

I would be very surprised if the ultra Left states like California and New York ever do this too.

Sure I would like to see it. But I doubt it will ever happen in my lifetime.

Here is the problem with all this: Even if states are forced by court to allow citizens to carry firearms, that doesn't mean the laws have to back them up.

Here in my state, I would never hesitate to use deadly force if needed because our legislators wrote the laws that favor us--the armed victim. However even if I could use my license in NY or California, I would be very fearful because of how they view armed citizens.

For armed citizens to make a difference, laws have to be provided to support people who need guns to get out of a bad situation. If the laws (and prosecutors) are against you, you might as well leave the gun home.

I agree, I never plan on going there much carrying a gun there, but wouldn't it be great for force some shit down their throats for a change?

 

[Flash]

M

Now anyone who isn’t prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a gun can carry it concealed without a license.

That is the way it should be all over the country. The government should not infringe upon the right to keep and bear arms.A constitutional right that requires a license is not really a right, is it?

The next thing we need to do is to remove all laws against the possession of firearms. There should not be a law against possession. There should only be laws against using a firearm for illegal purposes.

 

[OKTexas]

I would like to see equal gun laws nationwide, however I'm no lawyer or adept student of the Constitution.

You always need to remember that the 50 States plus the territories and DC are practically sovereign. This is due to the 10th Amendment.

The next SCOTUS after Gorsuch is seated will need to decide between States' Rights versus 2A.

Gorsuch seems like he will be a swing voter like Roberts and Kennedy.

So this could go either way.

When I lived in California I thought States' Rights was all fokked up because California has gone Communist.

But now that I live in the Rocky Mountains I love States' Rights and I just feel sorry for all the moderate and far Right Californians who must live under a Communist dictatorship.

DC is not sovereign, congress has all legislative authority over it, if DC passes a law congress doesn't like they can kill it. It's unfortunate they don't exercise that authority often enough.

 

[Tom Horn]

We've had unlicensed conceal/carry in Arizona for a couple years now.....Very little "road rage" any more other than by drunks because everybody has a little something close-by. A mechanic buddy of mine told me he's surprised when he doesn't see a pistol in the glove box or under the seat when the vehicle is in his shop. So far so good...only ones getting shot are those who have it coming.

 

[OKTexas]

Can you provide evidence of said vending machine?

Well you preach that there should be no gun control . So then you would be in favor of guns out of vending machines ! Anything less would mean some sort of gun control was in place .

show me one person here who thinks that convicted felons should be able to buy guns legally

Are you kidding ? What the fuck do you think background checks are for? Most of you gun nuts are against them .

so who here says that any felon should be able to buy a gun?

if there's that many it should be easy to find a quote

I'll ask you. Do you think we should have control?

Gun control is hitting what you aim at.