Texas Republicans approve bill to place Christian chaplains in public schools

[surada]

Democrats aren't either. They make up a majority of our 'teachers'

They could arm the chaplains to protect the children from the killers.

 

[surada]

Since when does a chaplain constitute "evangelism"? The Military has them and so does congress. If the left has a problem with the cost they have an issue but the 1st Amendment is in effect even in schools.

Give the Chaplains guns and have them protect school children.

 

[Zincwarrior]

They could arm the chaplains to protect the children from the killers.

 

[Curried Goats]

Easy way to solve this. Request an Imam at some inner city school and watch the bedwetting begin.

You think Republicans care what happens in inner city schools....

 

[marvin martian]

You think Republicans care that happens in inner city schools....

Inner city school are all run by people like you (white leftists). Hence their massive failure.

 

[Curried Goats]

Inner city school are all run by people like you (white leftists). Hence their massive failure.

Sure....

 

[MisterBeale]

From the OP link:

“A chaplain is not trained in how the brain works”​

. . . and you want to convince us, folks like this. ..

. . . are better trained on how the brain works? Is that seriously what you want us all to bleev. . . . ???

 

[Zincwarrior]

Is that a counselor or chaplain?

 

[okfine]

Since when does a chaplain constitute "evangelism"? The Military has them and so does congress. If the left has a problem with the cost they have an issue but the 1st Amendment is in effect even in schools.

They have them in jails also.

 

[MisterBeale]

EDIT: I don't see how chaplains have expertise in dealing with depression, rape, female body image issues, etc.

Four cardinal virtues​

• "Prudence (φρόνησις, phrónēsis; Latin: prudentia; also Wisdom, Sophia, sapientia), the ability to discern the appropriate course of action to be taken in a given situation at the appropriate time, with consideration of potential consequences.
• Justice (δικαιοσύνη, dikaiosýnē; Latin: iustitia): also considered as fairness;[3] the Greek word also having the meaning righteousness
• Fortitude (ἀνδρεία, andreía; Latin: fortitudo): also termed courage: forbearance, strength, endurance, and the ability to confront fear, uncertainty, and intimidation
• Temperance (σωφροσύνη, sōphrosýnē; Latin: temperantia): also known as restraint, the practice of self-control, abstention, discretion, and moderation tempering the appetition. Plato considered sōphrosynē, which may also be translated as sound-mindedness, to be the most important virtue."

Cardinal virtues - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[d0gbreath]

A chaplain is just another counselor. You know; The people that students never talk to.

 

[MisterBeale]

Is that a counselor or chaplain?

Neither. In the church of Satan, what you are referred to, depends on your rank.


Registered Member (no degree)
Active Member—Satanist (First Degree)
Witch/Warlock (Second Degree)
Priestess/Priest (Third Degree)
Magistra/Magister (Fourth Degree)
Maga/Magus (Fifth Degree)

Hierarchy in the Church of Satan - Church of Satan

Hierarchy in the Church of Satan Anton LaVey formulated a system of degrees during the early years of the Church of Satan, as such was a general practice in many prior social and esoteric organizations. However, the criteria for elevation in our Church were based not on mysticism or occultism...

www.churchofsatan.com

 

[Winco]

“Chaplains have no other agenda other than to be present in relationships, care for individuals and to make sure everybody on campus is seen and heard.”

That doesn't sound good to you?

That's what Counselors are for.

Fighting about religion has a historical outcome that's always positive.
Just what we need ^^^^^ in schools........ya dumbass.

 

[marvin martian]

That's what Counselors are for.

Fighting about religion has a historical outcome that's always positive.
Just what we need ^^^^^ in schools........ya dumbass.

Yes, a chaplain is a counselor. What are you scared of, bigot?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Four cardinal virtues​

• "Prudence (φρόνησις, phrónēsis; Latin: prudentia; also Wisdom, Sophia, sapientia), the ability to discern the appropriate course of action to be taken in a given situation at the appropriate time, with consideration of potential consequences.
• Justice (δικαιοσύνη, dikaiosýnē; Latin: iustitia): also considered as fairness;[3] the Greek word also having the meaning righteousness
• Fortitude (ἀνδρεία, andreía; Latin: fortitudo): also termed courage: forbearance, strength, endurance, and the ability to confront fear, uncertainty, and intimidation
• Temperance (σωφροσύνη, sōphrosýnē; Latin: temperantia): also known as restraint, the practice of self-control, abstention, discretion, and moderation tempering the appetition. Plato considered sōphrosynē, which may also be translated as sound-mindedness, to be the most important virtue."

Cardinal virtues - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I don't see how that relates.
"I am Le-Anne. I'm being molested by my uncle. Now I am pregnant. What should I do?"

 

[Dogmaphobe]

What I have gathered from this thread is that our schools need more drag queen Imams.

Telling the children about how Big Mo nailed little Aiesha when she was just nine would be much enhanced by an Imam in drag.

 

[Skylar]

“Key supporter of Texas school chaplain bill has pushed for evangelism in schools” was first published by The Texas Tribune, a nonprofit, nonpartisan media organization that informs Texans — and engages with them — about public policy, politics, government and statewide issues.

Speaking to state lawmakers last month, Rocky Malloy argued that putting unlicensed religious chaplains in schools could prevent youth violence, teen suicide and teacher burnout. And he rejected concerns that school chaplains might use their access to recruit kids to Christ.

Chaplains “are not working to convert people to religion,” Malloy, the head of the National School Chaplain Association, told the Senate Committee on Education. “Chaplains have no other agenda other than to be present in relationships, care for individuals and to make sure everybody on campus is seen and heard.”

What Malloy didn’t mention was that, for decades, he has led another group that promotes school chaplains as a tool for evangelism. Malloy is the founder of Mission Generation, which had been open about its desire to proselytize in schools across the world until recently, when its website was changed to redirect to the school chaplain association’s home page.

Much more at the link below...

Texas Republicans approve bill to place Christian chaplains in public schools – DeadState

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Sounds to me like the Christian foxes are trying to sneak into the henhouse! What do you think?

Then they'd be cool with a Rabbi or Imam taking the place of an Evangelical Christian Chaplin?

If 'chaplains have no agenda other than to be present in relationships, care for individuals and make sure everyone on campus is seen and heard', then surely a Jew or Muslim can do the job just as well.

 

[Winco]

Yes, a chaplain is a counselor. What are you scared of, bigot?

History.
History tells us that pushing your religious agenda leads to murder.
I know you like murdering kids with guns, now you want to murder them with religion.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Easy way to solve this. Request an Imam at some inner city school and watch the bedwetting begin.

Inner city schools are lost... have at it

But placing any religious figurehead outside of religious schools is ridiculous

 

[MisterBeale]

I don't see how that relates.
"I am Le-Anne. I'm being molested by my uncle. Now I am pregnant. What should I do?"

That would seem to be an instance in life, where both fortitude and prudence are required, to discern when, where, & what action is necessary and best for you.

If you have been trained in both fortitude and prudence? Chances are, you would not need to ask these questions. You will be able to identify the proper authority figure to reach out to for the help you need.

The public school however, is not the place to indoctrinate a plan of action, that is comprehensive and best for all. Each individual, family, and community is different, and some families have no crisis at all. Thus, this sort of thing should probably not be brought into attention for the class wide "education," with time and resources paid to it, where education is the goal.

Nearly all counties have public crisis action agencies and public safety law enforcement agencies, which are better suited to address such issues. The only thing teachers or other authority figures in the public school settings should do, IMO, is identify those in need of these services.

Otherwise? The school is for reading, writing and arithmetic, etc. Our education compared to other advanced nations is already dismal enough.