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[PaintMyHouse]

Sorry leftists, but you're wrong.

I am aware of all of that. But good for you, looking at actual links.

But of course bad for you and your bullshit.

Not at all. My point is entirely valid. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

Your point like you is bullshit.

Not at all, it's entirely true.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Funny,none of my firearms have left the safe since I went shooting three weeks ago.
But go ahead and keep posting your unsubstantiated bullshit..it's amusing.

Pretty obvious that you don't need them then eh? And also what you use them for is playing around. Just toys, but I'm glad to hear they're locked up.

Really? Tell that to the mexicans who attempted a home invasion at my house.
I bet they wish I hadnt been armed.

Your active imagination is noted.

 

[westwall]

Sure they do. If they break the law then they get their weapons taken away from them. That's the problem with idiots like you, you think law abiding citizens are just as bad as the criminals when the evidence shows the exact opposite. Why do you insist on making the lives of criminals easier? Why do you want women to be raped and murdered with no way to defend themselves?

Is it the only way you can get laid?

Guns don't protect women from rape, but the rapist can get a free gun out of the deal. A win-win for him.

They don't? Below are 4 cases out of thousands that say you're full of shit. No surprise there....


Woman Killed Would-Be Rapist in Self-Defense

Woman Killed Would-Be Rapist in Self-Defense - ABC News






17-year-old fatally shot during home invasion, rape, robbery, Gadsden police say

17-year-old fatally shot during home invasion rape robbery Gadsden police say AL.com

Never heard the exception proves the rule? Guess not. Unlike you, I deal with math, not flukes.

Flukes? The "flukes" as you call them, trump your imaginary math.

Not in the slightest. Unlike your kind, I can do math, like figuring out who women get raped by.

Yes, they get raped by criminals. And you want to make the criminals life easier.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Guns don't protect women from rape, but the rapist can get a free gun out of the deal. A win-win for him.

They don't? Below are 4 cases out of thousands that say you're full of shit. No surprise there....


Woman Killed Would-Be Rapist in Self-Defense

Woman Killed Would-Be Rapist in Self-Defense - ABC News






17-year-old fatally shot during home invasion, rape, robbery, Gadsden police say

17-year-old fatally shot during home invasion rape robbery Gadsden police say AL.com

Never heard the exception proves the rule? Guess not. Unlike you, I deal with math, not flukes.

Flukes? The "flukes" as you call them, trump your imaginary math.

Not in the slightest. Unlike your kind, I can do math, like figuring out who women get raped by.

Yes, they get raped by criminals. And you want to make the criminals life easier.

They usually get raped by men they know, who know they have a gun if they own one, and who they wouldn't shoot regardless.

Guns don't stop rape.

 

[westwall]

They don't? Below are 4 cases out of thousands that say you're full of shit. No surprise there....


Woman Killed Would-Be Rapist in Self-Defense

Woman Killed Would-Be Rapist in Self-Defense - ABC News






17-year-old fatally shot during home invasion, rape, robbery, Gadsden police say

17-year-old fatally shot during home invasion rape robbery Gadsden police say AL.com

Never heard the exception proves the rule? Guess not. Unlike you, I deal with math, not flukes.

Flukes? The "flukes" as you call them, trump your imaginary math.

Not in the slightest. Unlike your kind, I can do math, like figuring out who women get raped by.

Yes, they get raped by criminals. And you want to make the criminals life easier.

They usually get raped by men they know, who know they have a gun if they own one, and who they wouldn't shoot regardless.

Guns don't stop rape.

And yet I posted four out of thousands available showing you are full of poo.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Never heard the exception proves the rule? Guess not. Unlike you, I deal with math, not flukes.

Flukes? The "flukes" as you call them, trump your imaginary math.

Not in the slightest. Unlike your kind, I can do math, like figuring out who women get raped by.

Yes, they get raped by criminals. And you want to make the criminals life easier.

They usually get raped by men they know, who know they have a gun if they own one, and who they wouldn't shoot regardless.

Guns don't stop rape.

And yet I posted four out of thousands available showing you are full of poo.

No, unlike you I can do math.

 

[westwall]

Flukes? The "flukes" as you call them, trump your imaginary math.

Not in the slightest. Unlike your kind, I can do math, like figuring out who women get raped by.

Yes, they get raped by criminals. And you want to make the criminals life easier.

They usually get raped by men they know, who know they have a gun if they own one, and who they wouldn't shoot regardless.

Guns don't stop rape.

And yet I posted four out of thousands available showing you are full of poo.

No, unlike you I can do math.

You already said that, and were proven wrong. Thanks for playing, but this is college, and you're still stuck in Middle School.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Not in the slightest. Unlike your kind, I can do math, like figuring out who women get raped by.

Yes, they get raped by criminals. And you want to make the criminals life easier.

They usually get raped by men they know, who know they have a gun if they own one, and who they wouldn't shoot regardless.

Guns don't stop rape.

And yet I posted four out of thousands available showing you are full of poo.

No, unlike you I can do math.

You already said that, and were proven wrong. Thanks for playing, but this is college, and you're still stuck in Middle School.

Your inability to do math and need to pat yourself on the back is noted.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You get shot in Texas you don't need a doctor. You need an Undertaker.

They get shot there and survive all the time. And most deaths will be suicides, as usual.

Lets see about 18000 deaths to suicide a year by firearms. Over 300 million firearms in private hands, can we do the math?

I have.

Let us know when you are able to get an accurate resolution to 2+2.

It could be 18 deaths and my position would be the same. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

But NOT fewer overall suicides. Japan has almost no firearms yet their suicide rate is MUCH higher then ours. Provide us a study that shows if we removed all firearms from civilian hands there would be no civilian suicides. Or one that shows the number would significantly drop. And it has to be from an unbiased source.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

They get shot there and survive all the time. And most deaths will be suicides, as usual.

Lets see about 18000 deaths to suicide a year by firearms. Over 300 million firearms in private hands, can we do the math?

I have.

Let us know when you are able to get an accurate resolution to 2+2.

It could be 18 deaths and my position would be the same. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

But NOT fewer overall suicides. Japan has almost no firearms yet their suicide rate is MUCH higher then ours. Provide us a study that shows if we removed all firearms from civilian hands there would be no civilian suicides. Or one that shows the number would significantly drop. And it has to be from an unbiased source.

Suicide by gun was my point. That's as far as it goes.

 

[Spare_change]

Lets see about 18000 deaths to suicide a year by firearms. Over 300 million firearms in private hands, can we do the math?

I have.

Let us know when you are able to get an accurate resolution to 2+2.

It could be 18 deaths and my position would be the same. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

But NOT fewer overall suicides. Japan has almost no firearms yet their suicide rate is MUCH higher then ours. Provide us a study that shows if we removed all firearms from civilian hands there would be no civilian suicides. Or one that shows the number would significantly drop. And it has to be from an unbiased source.

Suicide by gun was my point. That's as far as it goes.

Backpedal, backpedal, backpedal ....

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“The bill passed after lawmakers made concessions to law enforcement groups, who had been upset by an original provision that barred police from questioning people carrying guns if they have no other reason to stop them.

The final bill scrapped that language, meaning police will be able to ask Texans with handguns in plain sight if they have proper licenses.”

Texas Poised to Allow Open Carry of Handguns - ABC News

This is both troubling and problematic – openly carrying a handgun alone is not justification to be stopped by law enforcement and questioned.

“Just like the current concealed handgun law, the bill requires anyone wanting to openly carry a handgun to get a license. Applicants must be 21, pass a background check and receive classroom and shooting range instruction — although lawmakers have weakened those requirements since 2011.” ibid

This doesn't make any sense.

There is no reason to require a license to open carry – it's appropriate to require a license for concealed carry because to otherwise carry a concealed weapon is against the law in most states.

Texans already possess and carry handguns in their cars and on their persons – to and from shooting ranges, to and from shopping centers, to and from work, and to and from gun shops for sale or repair, absent licensing and training requirements; this clearly manifests an undue burden and should be challenged in court.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I have.

Let us know when you are able to get an accurate resolution to 2+2.

It could be 18 deaths and my position would be the same. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

But NOT fewer overall suicides. Japan has almost no firearms yet their suicide rate is MUCH higher then ours. Provide us a study that shows if we removed all firearms from civilian hands there would be no civilian suicides. Or one that shows the number would significantly drop. And it has to be from an unbiased source.

Suicide by gun was my point. That's as far as it goes.

Backpedal, backpedal, backpedal ....

Not a one. Read from the OP on.

 

[westwall]

Lets see about 18000 deaths to suicide a year by firearms. Over 300 million firearms in private hands, can we do the math?

I have.

Let us know when you are able to get an accurate resolution to 2+2.

It could be 18 deaths and my position would be the same. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

But NOT fewer overall suicides. Japan has almost no firearms yet their suicide rate is MUCH higher then ours. Provide us a study that shows if we removed all firearms from civilian hands there would be no civilian suicides. Or one that shows the number would significantly drop. And it has to be from an unbiased source.

Suicide by gun was my point. That's as far as it goes.

And your point is stupid and meaningless. They will simply trade the gun for some other vehicle. Which, if it is a vehicle stands a good chance to kill completely innocent people like the asshole that flew the airliner into a mountain with 149 people aboard.

That's the problem, you don't really care about the people involved, you only care about the tools they use. Guns happen to be the only thing keeping assholes like you from turning this country into a totalitarian wasteland.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Lets see about 18000 deaths to suicide a year by firearms. Over 300 million firearms in private hands, can we do the math?

I have.

Let us know when you are able to get an accurate resolution to 2+2.

It could be 18 deaths and my position would be the same. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

But NOT fewer overall suicides. Japan has almost no firearms yet their suicide rate is MUCH higher then ours. Provide us a study that shows if we removed all firearms from civilian hands there would be no civilian suicides. Or one that shows the number would significantly drop. And it has to be from an unbiased source.

Suicide by gun was my point. That's as far as it goes.

And banning firearms will not stop nor significantly lessen the number of suicides a year. Hell using your logic we should ban any item that can be used to commit suicide, after all you said one is to many. So no more ropes, no more buildings over one story high, no more cars, no more knives scissors, etc etc etc.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I have.

Let us know when you are able to get an accurate resolution to 2+2.

It could be 18 deaths and my position would be the same. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

But NOT fewer overall suicides. Japan has almost no firearms yet their suicide rate is MUCH higher then ours. Provide us a study that shows if we removed all firearms from civilian hands there would be no civilian suicides. Or one that shows the number would significantly drop. And it has to be from an unbiased source.

Suicide by gun was my point. That's as far as it goes.

And your point is stupid and meaningless. They will simply trade the gun for some other vehicle. Which, if it is a vehicle stands a good chance to kill completely innocent people like the asshole that flew the airliner into a mountain with 149 people aboard.

That's the problem, you don't really care about the people involved, you only care about the tools they use. Guns happen to be the only thing keeping assholes like you from turning this country into a totalitarian wasteland.

Your dogma and irrational thinking is of no interest to me.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I have.

Let us know when you are able to get an accurate resolution to 2+2.

It could be 18 deaths and my position would be the same. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

But NOT fewer overall suicides. Japan has almost no firearms yet their suicide rate is MUCH higher then ours. Provide us a study that shows if we removed all firearms from civilian hands there would be no civilian suicides. Or one that shows the number would significantly drop. And it has to be from an unbiased source.

Suicide by gun was my point. That's as far as it goes.

And banning firearms will not stop nor significantly lessen the number of suicides a year. Hell using your logic we should ban any item that can be used to commit suicide, after all you said one is to many. So no more ropes, no more buildings over one story high, no more cars, no more knives scissors, etc etc etc.

My point has always been only about guns and gun suicides. Your strawman is not worthy of my time.

 

[Spare_change]

Let us know when you are able to get an accurate resolution to 2+2.

It could be 18 deaths and my position would be the same. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

But NOT fewer overall suicides. Japan has almost no firearms yet their suicide rate is MUCH higher then ours. Provide us a study that shows if we removed all firearms from civilian hands there would be no civilian suicides. Or one that shows the number would significantly drop. And it has to be from an unbiased source.

Suicide by gun was my point. That's as far as it goes.

And your point is stupid and meaningless. They will simply trade the gun for some other vehicle. Which, if it is a vehicle stands a good chance to kill completely innocent people like the asshole that flew the airliner into a mountain with 149 people aboard.

That's the problem, you don't really care about the people involved, you only care about the tools they use. Guns happen to be the only thing keeping assholes like you from turning this country into a totalitarian wasteland.

Your dogma and irrational thinking is of no interest to me.

.... which only strengthens the rigidity of your ignorance.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It could be 18 deaths and my position would be the same. Fewer guns, fewer gun suicides.

But NOT fewer overall suicides. Japan has almost no firearms yet their suicide rate is MUCH higher then ours. Provide us a study that shows if we removed all firearms from civilian hands there would be no civilian suicides. Or one that shows the number would significantly drop. And it has to be from an unbiased source.

Suicide by gun was my point. That's as far as it goes.

And your point is stupid and meaningless. They will simply trade the gun for some other vehicle. Which, if it is a vehicle stands a good chance to kill completely innocent people like the asshole that flew the airliner into a mountain with 149 people aboard.

That's the problem, you don't really care about the people involved, you only care about the tools they use. Guns happen to be the only thing keeping assholes like you from turning this country into a totalitarian wasteland.

Your dogma and irrational thinking is of no interest to me.

.... which only strengthens the rigidity of your ignorance.

I'm ignorant of nothing. That is for the gun nuts.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Does the owner of Starbucks and Safeway require patrons to wear a firearm, or do they just allow any idiot to shop in their store, including those that pack a firearm?

If you are the owner of the Starbucks or Safeway and question and don't want people open carrying in your store, all power to you. As a supporter of private property rights, you have the right to implement a policy prohibiting open carry in your store. However, if you don't own the stores in question, it isn't your business to dictate if someone can open carry in them.

I'm not dictating anything. I am simply calling out all the immature jerks who, now that they can no longer show their manhood by buying a Hummer, wear a phallic symbol on their hip, instead.

Seems like you are the immature one here, believing your sensibilities and preferences come before the liberties of others.

If you don't like open carrying in private places of business, don't do so. And if it really bothers you when others do so, than take your business elsewhere, it is pretty simple. You don't need to introduce the State to impose your personal preferences on others.

...as if I can take my business elsewhere in AZ, which allows open carry for everyone without a license. Speaking of which, AZ will still issue a concealed carry license if you want one, but it is such a joke, with virtually no training or knowledge required, that even Nevada no longer recognizes it in their state.

But, if you feel that your liberties are in danger because you might need your handgun back in the dairy aisle at Safeway, by all means, macho up, swagger back there, and boldly pick up the largest container of yogurt that they sell there! The Duke would be proud of ya!

Than perhaps you should leave your community or your state altogether if it is such a problem for you. But I doubt it is, or your would have left already. You are just bickering about individuals exercising their rights, that's all your doing.

But in reality, it isn't any of your business if business owners allow individuals to open carry on their premises, that's their prerogative, as it is their property, not yours.

For some reason, you insist on posting that my problem is with business owners, in spite of the fact that I have clearly, and consistently stated that my problem is with gun nuts, not business owners. While it is true that you are never going to see me at an outlaw biker bar, my problem is more along the lines of the 250 armed people who showed up in Phoenix today to picket a mosque. In short, they were armed to the teeth, and ready to agitate against people who were there to worship god. Yes, everyone in America has the right to be a clueless jerk, and they can go from Clive Bundy's ranch, to a national park where they can ignore the law and ride ATVs on park land, or show up with guns at a house of worship to taunt muslims, or hoard automatic weapons and grenades at a Waco commune. Yes, they have the right to make an ass of themselves. I don't deny it, and 2nd ammendment radicals excel in doing just that. Most grow up, eventually, but not all of them. Back in grade school. we called these people bullies. They never changed.