Texas "fetal heartbeat" law to be NATIONAL MODEL

[john doe 101]

How can you have a heartbeat without a heart?...answer...you can't...let me ask you something...what does it mean to stop a heartbeat?....

So we are in agreement if there is no heart, you cant produce a heartbeat. So at 6 weeks when there is no left and right atria, no SA node, no tricuspid or mitral valves, and no right and left ventricles that make up a heart, how did these dumb people in Texas think a heartbeat can be heard at 6 weeks?

 

[Rambunctious]

Cool then you're OK with paying the hospital bills for trying to keep an nonviable fetus alive outside the womb.

Nonviable is determined by a doctor...not you or I...if a fetus can survive the pregnancy and it has a heartbeat it has civil rights just like you do....should we let you die or kill you because your treatment is too expensive?.....

 

[marvin martian]

So we are in agreement if there is no heart, you cant produce a heartbeat. So at 6 weeks when there is no left and right atria, no SA node, no tricuspid or mitral valves, and no right and left ventricles that make up a heart, how did these dumb people in Texas think a heartbeat can be heard at 6 weeks?

When does life begin?

 

[Rambunctious]

If that part is held up by SCOTUS, we're fucked.

Why...do you plan on having an abortion soon?....

 

[john doe 101]

Once again, your backwards ignorance and belief in magic/voodoo instead of science is why we need laws like these.

Tell me when life begins.

That is really immaterial to the discussion.

 

[john doe 101]

When does life begin?

That is immaterial to the discussion.

 

[marvin martian]

That is really immaterial to the discussion.

You baby-killers ALWAYS dodge that question. Why is that?

 

[Blues Man]

Nonviable is determined by a doctor...not you or I...if a fetus can survive the pregnancy and it has a heartbeat it has civil rights just like you do....should we let you die or kill you because your treatment is too expensive?.....

So you're OK with paying for it?

I have insurance so you will never pay for my medical care.

 

[Blues Man]

You baby-killers ALWAYS dodge that question. Why is that?

IMO life begins when the fetus is viable outside of the womb.

A fetus at a few weeks old isn't.

 

[dblack]

Why...do you plan on having an abortion soon?....

Well - nevermind. I've tried reasoning with you before. You're impervious to it.

 

[john doe 101]

You baby-killers ALWAYS dodge that question. Why is that?

I could ask why you dodged my question by asking me a question.
Listen this should be decided between a doctor and the patient, not by a bunch of 70 year old state congressmen. Name one other medical procedure where there is a law forbidding you to have that procedure.

 

[john doe 101]

IMO life begins when the fetus is viable outside of the womb.

A fetus at a few weeks old isn't.

At a few weeks old its a clump of pulsing cells.

 

[MisterBeale]

The Texas law will also be a model law for all the "vigilante" laws to come. Don't like something, deputize the public to go after violators. Expect more of these type laws, if the vigilante aspect of the law is upheld by SCOTUS.

I can't say I like it or agree with it. . . but, if the central government run by the corporate funded elites is going to cede our civil rights and civil liberties to global corporations. . . what do you expect the people to do in response?

 

[marvin martian]

I could ask why you dodged my question by asking me a question.
Listen this should be decided between a doctor and the patient, not by a bunch of 70 year old state congressmen. Name one other medical procedure where there is a law forbidding you to have that procedure.

The fact that you refuse to say when you believe life begins means you have NO argument to make in favor of ending that life. You just get off on killing kids. It's disgusting.

 

[Blues Man]

Watch sales of Morning After Pills skyrocket in TX

 

[Rambunctious]

I have insurance so you will never pay for my medical care.

So then who will pay for it?...who do you think pays for medical services via your healthcare insurance?....

 

[Rambunctious]

Watch sales of Morning After Pills skyrocket in TX

Better than killing a living baby with a heartbeat....

 

[john doe 101]

The fact that you refuse to say when you believe life begins means you have NO argument to make in favor of ending that life. You just get off on killing kids. It's disgusting.

Maybe in your schizophrenic wracked mind it means that. But in reality it doesnt mean that. This bill will eventually be overturned not based on abortion rights, but because of the way the law was written and how it attempts to evade laws itself. But that is above your capability of thought, so I wont even begin to try to explain it to you.

 

[marvin martian]

Maybe in your schizophrenic wracked mind it means that. But in reality it doesnt mean that. This bill will eventually be overturned not based on abortion rights, but because of the way the law was written and how it attempts to evade laws itself. But that is above your capability of thought, so I wont even begin to try to explain it to you.

Yet you still refuse to say when you believe life begins. It tells me everything I need to know about your actual belief in your stated convictions.

 

[john doe 101]

Better than killing a living baby with a heartbeat....

I thought you just agreed there isnt a heartbeat at 6 weeks? Wow I leave you alone for 2 minutes and you are back to spouting your nonsense.