Terrorist Snipers Open Fire on IDF Soldiers

[P F Tinmore]

Normal rights are suspended during wartime. Maybe the Pals should surrender first.

The Palestinian's rights were violated in peace time. War was the predictable result of those violations.

The war was started on May 14 1948 by the arab muslims, of which the Palestinians were a part. The war was never declared ended and is still being fought by the arab muslim Palestinians. So when were their rights violated in peace time ?

It has always been the Jews rights to determination, sovereignty and territorial integrity that has been violated.

You are starting history in the middle.

 

[MrMax]

Pfffft.

The Palestinian's rights have been denied since day one. That is the root of the problems we still have today.

Everything you mentioned are merely symptoms of that original problem.

Normal rights are suspended during wartime. Maybe the Pals should surrender first.

The Palestinian's rights were violated in peace time. War was the predictable result of those violations.

Sorry, you can't go back, otherwise the Jews have all kinds of reasons going back in time for taking back the land. Fact is, there's a war going on right now, and the arabs are losing. If they want normal rights back, they should surrender.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Normal rights are suspended during wartime. Maybe the Pals should surrender first.

The Palestinian's rights were violated in peace time. War was the predictable result of those violations.

Sorry, you can't go back, otherwise the Jews have all kinds of reasons going back in time for taking back the land. Fact is, there's a war going on right now, and the arabs are losing. If they want normal rights back, they should surrender.

Why should the Palestinians surrender to injustice?

 

[Smilebong]

I guess there are those on this forum who feel the IDF should never fire back. In fact, they probably don't think the IDF should have fired their rifles into the air to scare off the snipers.

Terrorist Snipers Open Fire on IDF Soldiers
Posted by: Lea Speyer April 9, 2014 , 10:20 am


Terrorist snipers in the Gaza Strip opened fire on IDF troops stationed near the Israel-Gaza border Wednesday morning. The soldiers, who were near the Israeli community of Kissufim, responded back by firing rounds into the air to warn and scare off the snipers.


Read more at Terrorist Snipers Open Fire on IDF Soldiers | Breaking Israel News

I think the IDF should call in carpet bombers and bomb the fuckers.

 

[montelatici]

I guess there are those on this forum who feel the IDF should never fire back. In fact, they probably don't think the IDF should have fired their rifles into the air to scare off the snipers.

Terrorist Snipers Open Fire on IDF Soldiers
Posted by: Lea Speyer April 9, 2014 , 10:20 am


Terrorist snipers in the Gaza Strip opened fire on IDF troops stationed near the Israel-Gaza border Wednesday morning. The soldiers, who were near the Israeli community of Kissufim, responded back by firing rounds into the air to warn and scare off the snipers.


Read more at Terrorist Snipers Open Fire on IDF Soldiers | Breaking Israel News

I think the IDF should call in carpet bombers and bomb the fuckers.

Now, that's a good Zionazi suggestion, sort of alike a Blitzkreig on the non-Jews. Bravo.

 

[Smilebong]

I guess there are those on this forum who feel the IDF should never fire back. In fact, they probably don't think the IDF should have fired their rifles into the air to scare off the snipers.

Terrorist Snipers Open Fire on IDF Soldiers
Posted by: Lea Speyer April 9, 2014 , 10:20 am


Terrorist snipers in the Gaza Strip opened fire on IDF troops stationed near the Israel-Gaza border Wednesday morning. The soldiers, who were near the Israeli community of Kissufim, responded back by firing rounds into the air to warn and scare off the snipers.


Read more at Terrorist Snipers Open Fire on IDF Soldiers | Breaking Israel News

I think the IDF should call in carpet bombers and bomb the fuckers.

Now, that's a good Zionazi suggestion, sort of alike a Blitzkreig on the non-Jews. Bravo.

No, its called giving them what they want. They want to kill people, then those being targeted should be able to fight back.

 

[montelatici]

I think the IDF should call in carpet bombers and bomb the fuckers.

Now, that's a good Zionazi suggestion, sort of alike a Blitzkreig on the non-Jews. Bravo.

No, its called giving them what they want. They want to kill people, then those being targeted should be able to fight back.

Cool, that would solve the problem too, exterminate all non-Jews and the Jews can have a Gentile-free state to their own. You should write your own version of Mein Kampf.

 

[MrMax]

The Palestinian's rights were violated in peace time. War was the predictable result of those violations.

Sorry, you can't go back, otherwise the Jews have all kinds of reasons going back in time for taking back the land. Fact is, there's a war going on right now, and the arabs are losing. If they want normal rights back, they should surrender.

Why should the Palestinians surrender to injustice?

Japanese also thought it was unjust, but they surrendered anyways. Now they are prosperous. Fact is, war is never just. Win or surrender, and the Pals have/are losing BIG TIME!!! Time to cut the losses and move on.

 

[Phoenall]

You are ignoring basic facts. The Palestinians are a nation of people on territory defined be international borders. They have inalienable rights.

1) The right to self determination without external interference.
2) The right to independence and sovereignty.
3) The right to territorial integrity.​

Anything that denies them the exercise of their rights is illegal.

And you forget that there are Jews and Christians that also have those same rights that don't want to live under the yoke of islam. This makes them a separate Palestinian nation on territory defined by International Borders, and they have the same inalienable rights

1) the right to self determination without Islamic interference

2) the right to independence and sovereignty

3) the right to territorial integrity

Anything that denies them the exercise4 of their rights is illegal. That is why the land left after the muslim land grabs was divided along demographic lines and offered as two states to take into account the rights of all parties.

So why do you constantly deny the Jews their inalienable rights to a NATIONAL HOME, FREE DETERMINATION, INDEPENDENCE, SOVEREINGTY AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY ?

It is true that Palestinian Christians, Muslims, and Jews had the same rights and they expressed to the British many times that they wanted their state with equal rights. The PLO charter specifies that native Jews are legitimate citizens of Palestine. Today's constitution specifies that all Palestinians are equal under the law without regard to race, sex, religion.

I don't see where anybody's rights were threatened.

How about the ongoing genocide and ethnic cleansing of Jews and Christians by the arab muslims. The many mass murders prior to the Mandate were arab muslims attacked Jewish towns and wiped out the inhabitants.

So were are the Jews rights to a NATIONAL HOME in Palestine that you want to see removed and the Jews placed under the control of the muslims. Taking away their rights to FREE DETERMINATION, INDEPENDENCE, SOVEREINGTY AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY ?

The PLO charter dictates that only those Jews that were dhimmi before 1948 would be considered for entry, and that their children would be killed on sight. It also stipulates that a muslim is a Palestinian if he has lived in any part of Palestine for two years. But this will not apply to any Jew as they are not wanted. So in the not too distant future there wo0uld be no Palestinian Jews alive would there, and then the Palestinians would be happy. Now why do you complain when Israel wants to implement the same rules for the Palestinian refugees ?

 

[Phoenall]

Pfffft.

The Palestinian's rights have been denied since day one. That is the root of the problems we still have today.

Everything you mentioned are merely symptoms of that original problem.

SHow how their rights have been denied, when you and the rest of the ISLAMONAZI TERRORIST SCUM are still trying to deny the Jews the same rights you claim for the arab muslims. You want to force the Jews into accepting muslim supremacy and control over their free determination, sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Not true.

I have always said that Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews have equal rights.

Then why do you deny the Jews their rights to a NATIONAL HOME, FREE DETERMINATION, INDEPENDENCE, SOVEREINGTY AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY by claiming the Jews are invaders and land thieves. The land was destined for the NATIONAL HOME of the Jews by the legal owners at the time.

If you thought the Jews had the same rights then you would be demanding sanctions against the P.A. and hamas for their CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

 

[Smilebong]

And you forget that there are Jews and Christians that also have those same rights that don't want to live under the yoke of islam. This makes them a separate Palestinian nation on territory defined by International Borders, and they have the same inalienable rights

1) the right to self determination without Islamic interference

2) the right to independence and sovereignty

3) the right to territorial integrity

Anything that denies them the exercise4 of their rights is illegal. That is why the land left after the muslim land grabs was divided along demographic lines and offered as two states to take into account the rights of all parties.

So why do you constantly deny the Jews their inalienable rights to a NATIONAL HOME, FREE DETERMINATION, INDEPENDENCE, SOVEREINGTY AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY ?

It is true that Palestinian Christians, Muslims, and Jews had the same rights and they expressed to the British many times that they wanted their state with equal rights. The PLO charter specifies that native Jews are legitimate citizens of Palestine. Today's constitution specifies that all Palestinians are equal under the law without regard to race, sex, religion.

I don't see where anybody's rights were threatened.

How about the ongoing genocide and ethnic cleansing of Jews and Christians by the arab muslims. The many mass murders prior to the Mandate were arab muslims attacked Jewish towns and wiped out the inhabitants.

So were are the Jews rights to a NATIONAL HOME in Palestine that you want to see removed and the Jews placed under the control of the muslims. Taking away their rights to FREE DETERMINATION, INDEPENDENCE, SOVEREINGTY AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY ?

The PLO charter dictates that only those Jews that were dhimmi before 1948 would be considered for entry, and that their children would be killed on sight. It also stipulates that a muslim is a Palestinian if he has lived in any part of Palestine for two years. But this will not apply to any Jew as they are not wanted. So in the not too distant future there wo0uld be no Palestinian Jews alive would there, and then the Palestinians would be happy. Now why do you complain when Israel wants to implement the same rules for the Palestinian refugees ?

Because deep down, muslims want all non muslims dead.

 

[Phoenall]

The Palestinian's rights were violated in peace time. War was the predictable result of those violations.

The war was started on May 14 1948 by the arab muslims, of which the Palestinians were a part. The war was never declared ended and is still being fought by the arab muslim Palestinians. So when were their rights violated in peace time ?

It has always been the Jews rights to determination, sovereignty and territorial integrity that has been violated.

You are starting history in the middle.

Ok then lets start at the begining when Mohamed declared that islam was at war with the Jews shall we. Is that far enough back for you 632 C.E. when the mass murders, genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Jews by muslims began.
And before you say that was not the Palestinians it was the Palestinians ancestors and the practise has been carried on by every muslim group ever since. Don't forget the 3 massacres in Hebron by the muslims before Zionism was even born.

 

[Phoenall]

The Palestinian's rights were violated in peace time. War was the predictable result of those violations.

Sorry, you can't go back, otherwise the Jews have all kinds of reasons going back in time for taking back the land. Fact is, there's a war going on right now, and the arabs are losing. If they want normal rights back, they should surrender.

Why should the Palestinians surrender to injustice?

Why should the Jews for that matter, they have not been the ones causing the violence and wars.
Time for the Palestinians to realise they can not win and need to address peace as the way forward, and ask for dialogue on mutually agreed terms as laid out in all the UN resolutions

 

[Phoenall]

I guess there are those on this forum who feel the IDF should never fire back. In fact, they probably don't think the IDF should have fired their rifles into the air to scare off the snipers.

Terrorist Snipers Open Fire on IDF Soldiers
Posted by: Lea Speyer April 9, 2014 , 10:20 am


Terrorist snipers in the Gaza Strip opened fire on IDF troops stationed near the Israel-Gaza border Wednesday morning. The soldiers, who were near the Israeli community of Kissufim, responded back by firing rounds into the air to warn and scare off the snipers.


Read more at Terrorist Snipers Open Fire on IDF Soldiers | Breaking Israel News

I think the IDF should call in carpet bombers and bomb the fuckers.

Now, that's a good Zionazi suggestion, sort of alike a Blitzkreig on the non-Jews. Bravo.

Isn't that what you advocated for the Jews not that long ago ?

 

[Phoenall]

Now, that's a good Zionazi suggestion, sort of alike a Blitzkreig on the non-Jews. Bravo.

No, its called giving them what they want. They want to kill people, then those being targeted should be able to fight back.

Cool, that would solve the problem too, exterminate all non-Jews and the Jews can have a Gentile-free state to their own. You should write your own version of Mein Kampf.

It would solve the problem the muslim way, as that is how Jordan sorted out the Palestinians wasn't it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

SHow how their rights have been denied, when you and the rest of the ISLAMONAZI TERRORIST SCUM are still trying to deny the Jews the same rights you claim for the arab muslims. You want to force the Jews into accepting muslim supremacy and control over their free determination, sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Not true.

I have always said that Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews have equal rights.

Then why do you deny the Jews their rights to a NATIONAL HOME, FREE DETERMINATION, INDEPENDENCE, SOVEREINGTY AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY by claiming the Jews are invaders and land thieves. The land was destined for the NATIONAL HOME of the Jews by the legal owners at the time.

If you thought the Jews had the same rights then you would be demanding sanctions against the P.A. and hamas for their CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

And who would that be?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Now that is actually kind-of funny.

If you thought the Jews had the same rights then you would be demanding sanctions against the P.A. and hamas for their CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

And who would that be?

(COMMENT)

The question, in response to the reply, becomes an issue.

In asking the question: "And who would that be?" --- one has to ponder who is "who."

• Do we not know who the Palestinian Authority (PA) is?
• Do we not know who HAMAS is?

Or is it a question of competency? A country, to be a country has to have the capacity to enter into political relations.

• Are we asking if the PA is competent to stand the test as a viable government?
• Are we asking if HAMAS can to stand the test as a viable and competent government?

Or is something less difficult?

• Are we challenging the successor government to the 1988 Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) having the right to represent the Palestinian?
• Are we challenging the PLO right to declare independence in the name of the Palestinian People?

What does the question --- question?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Now that is actually kind-of funny.

If you thought the Jews had the same rights then you would be demanding sanctions against the P.A. and hamas for their CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

And who would that be?

(COMMENT)

The question, in response to the reply, becomes an issue.

In asking the question: "And who would that be?" --- one has to ponder who is "who."

• Do we not know who the Palestinian Authority (PA) is?
• Do we not know who HAMAS is?

Or is it a question of competency? A country, to be a country has to have the capacity to enter into political relations.

• Are we asking if the PA is competent to stand the test as a viable government?
• Are we asking if HAMAS can to stand the test as a viable and competent government?

Or is something less difficult?

• Are we challenging the successor government to the 1988 Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) having the right to represent the Palestinian?
• Are we challenging the PLO right to declare independence in the name of the Palestinian People?

What does the question --- question?

Most Respectfully,
R

Is this the post you are resopnding to?

Then why do you deny the Jews their rights to a NATIONAL HOME, FREE DETERMINATION, INDEPENDENCE, SOVEREINGTY AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY by claiming the Jews are invaders and land thieves. The land was destined for the NATIONAL HOME of the Jews by the legal owners at the time.

If you thought the Jews had the same rights then you would be demanding sanctions against the P.A. and hamas for their CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

The question was about the highlighted sentence.

 

[montelatici]

The war was started on May 14 1948 by the arab muslims, of which the Palestinians were a part. The war was never declared ended and is still being fought by the arab muslim Palestinians. So when were their rights violated in peace time ?

It has always been the Jews rights to determination, sovereignty and territorial integrity that has been violated.

You are starting history in the middle.

Ok then lets start at the begining when Mohamed declared that islam was at war with the Jews shall we. Is that far enough back for you 632 C.E. when the mass murders, genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Jews by muslims began.
And before you say that was not the Palestinians it was the Palestinians ancestors and the practise has been carried on by every muslim group ever since. Don't forget the 3 massacres in Hebron by the muslims before Zionism was even born.

Actually, before the more relatively recent colonization of North Africa and the Middle East by Europeans and European Zionist settlement of Palestine, Jews and Muslims were normally allies in both the Middle East and Spain against the Crusaders and the Christian Spaniards during the Reconquista. Jews, for example, who had been either all murdered or had fled Jerusalem when the Crusaders captured it, were invited to return after the Muslim reconquest of Jerusalem some 130 years later.

 

[Phoenall]

Not true.

I have always said that Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews have equal rights.

Then why do you deny the Jews their rights to a NATIONAL HOME, FREE DETERMINATION, INDEPENDENCE, SOVEREINGTY AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY by claiming the Jews are invaders and land thieves. The land was destined for the NATIONAL HOME of the Jews by the legal owners at the time.

If you thought the Jews had the same rights then you would be demanding sanctions against the P.A. and hamas for their CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

And who would that be?

Look and see who I answered ?