temple mount

[peach174]

The only difference between Christian Jews and Jews is Jews don't believe in Christ

Not the only difference ... but a major one. We also have substantially different concepts of the nature of sin and the after life. Belief in a divine entity other than G-d is polytheism (the awkward concept of The Trinity notwithstanding) and a Messianic 'Jew' would be considered a Jew in apostasy. Since Messianic Judaism is based in Protestantism many Messianic Jews aren't Jews at all (not being born to a Jewish mother) and hence take on the identity of 'Jews' perfidiously.

Yes the same exact belief as the Pharisees and Scribes had that Jesus rebuked.
The washing of hands were not so important as belief.
The main thing is belief in Jesus not traditions and sedition.

 

[fncceo]

The only difference between Christian Jews and Jews is Jews don't believe in Christ

Not the only difference ... but a major one. We also have substantially different concepts of the nature of sin and the after life. Belief in a divine entity other than G-d is polytheism (the awkward concept of The Trinity notwithstanding) and a Messianic 'Jew' would be considered a Jew in apostasy. Since Messianic Judaism is based in Protestantism many Messianic Jews aren't Jews at all (not being born to a Jewish mother) and hence take on the identity of 'Jews' perfidiously.

Yes the same exact belief as the Pharisees and Scribes had that Jesus rebuked.
The washing of hands were not so important as belief.
The main thing is belief in Jesus not traditions and sedition.

Precisely ... observance isn't as important as belief. And the fundamental belief of Judaism is there is only ONE G-d. The acceptance of any other divinity is a fundamental denial of Judaism.

You can perform all the rituals and observances of Judaism for your entire life but if you don't accept there is only ONE G-d then you are no closer to being a Jew than a wombat.

 

[peach174]

The only difference between Christian Jews and Jews is Jews don't believe in Christ

Not the only difference ... but a major one. We also have substantially different concepts of the nature of sin and the after life. Belief in a divine entity other than G-d is polytheism (the awkward concept of The Trinity notwithstanding) and a Messianic 'Jew' would be considered a Jew in apostasy. Since Messianic Judaism is based in Protestantism many Messianic Jews aren't Jews at all (not being born to a Jewish mother) and hence take on the identity of 'Jews' perfidiously.

Yes the same exact belief as the Pharisees and Scribes had that Jesus rebuked.
The washing of hands were not so important as belief.
The main thing is belief in Jesus not traditions and sedition.

Precisely ... observance isn't as important as belief. And the fundamental belief of Judaism is there is only ONE G-d. The acceptance of any other divinity is a fundamental denial of Judaism.

You can perform all the rituals and observances of Judaism for your entire life but if you don't accept there is only ONE G-d then you are no closer to being a Jew than a wombat.

What does that tell you about the Difference between that exact same believe as Fundamental Jews and Fundamental Muslims?
Both are doing the same in one God rather than a son and that belief causes strife.
Many Christians believe Jesus was God incarnate.
The same as fundamentals in all three religions. One God only.
So there should be no conflicts over it.

 

[fncceo]

The only difference between Christian Jews and Jews is Jews don't believe in Christ

Not the only difference ... but a major one. We also have substantially different concepts of the nature of sin and the after life. Belief in a divine entity other than G-d is polytheism (the awkward concept of The Trinity notwithstanding) and a Messianic 'Jew' would be considered a Jew in apostasy. Since Messianic Judaism is based in Protestantism many Messianic Jews aren't Jews at all (not being born to a Jewish mother) and hence take on the identity of 'Jews' perfidiously.

Yes the same exact belief as the Pharisees and Scribes had that Jesus rebuked.
The washing of hands were not so important as belief.
The main thing is belief in Jesus not traditions and sedition.

Precisely ... observance isn't as important as belief. And the fundamental belief of Judaism is there is only ONE G-d. The acceptance of any other divinity is a fundamental denial of Judaism.

You can perform all the rituals and observances of Judaism for your entire life but if you don't accept there is only ONE G-d then you are no closer to being a Jew than a wombat.

What does that tell you about the Difference between that exact same believe as Fundamental Jews and Fundamental Muslims?
Both are doing the same in one God rather than a son and that belief causes strife.
Many Christians believe Jesus was God incarnate.
The same as fundamentals in all three religions. One God only.
So there should be no conflicts over it.

You'll get no strife from me. I don't give a fetid dingo's kidney what anyone believes. Just don't call yourself a Jew if you're not a Jew.

 

[peach174]

The only difference between Christian Jews and Jews is Jews don't believe in Christ

Not the only difference ... but a major one. We also have substantially different concepts of the nature of sin and the after life. Belief in a divine entity other than G-d is polytheism (the awkward concept of The Trinity notwithstanding) and a Messianic 'Jew' would be considered a Jew in apostasy. Since Messianic Judaism is based in Protestantism many Messianic Jews aren't Jews at all (not being born to a Jewish mother) and hence take on the identity of 'Jews' perfidiously.

Yes the same exact belief as the Pharisees and Scribes had that Jesus rebuked.
The washing of hands were not so important as belief.
The main thing is belief in Jesus not traditions and sedition.

Precisely ... observance isn't as important as belief. And the fundamental belief of Judaism is there is only ONE G-d. The acceptance of any other divinity is a fundamental denial of Judaism.

You can perform all the rituals and observances of Judaism for your entire life but if you don't accept there is only ONE G-d then you are no closer to being a Jew than a wombat.

What does that tell you about the Difference between that exact same believe as Fundamental Jews and Fundamental Muslims?
Both are doing the same in one God rather than a son and that belief causes strife.
Many Christians believe Jesus was God incarnate.
The same as fundamentals in all three religions. One God only.
So there should be no conflicts over it.

You'll get no strife from me. I don't give a fetid dingo's kidney what anyone believes. Just don't call yourself a Jew if you're not a Jew.

The Israelites accept Christians and Muslims.

 

[aris2chat]

More Trouble expected at Noble Sanctuary (Temple Mount) tomorrow

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank, has called for a ‘Day of Rage’ on 28 July in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The purpose of the action is to protest ongoing security measures implemented by Israeli authorities at the entrance to the Al-Aqsa Mosque, located on the Temple Mount/Noble Sanctuary complex in East Jerusalem’s Old City."
Situation report: Day of Rage protests expected in Palestine - opinion.red24.com

The Israelis' attitude toward the Palestinians has be founded on taking their land to establish a sectarian Jewish state.
Half a century ago this was compounded by the blockading of Gaza followed by periodic massacres of children and civilians.
The West Bank has also been occupied, renamed Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem has been annexed.
Settlements will also be annexed to Israel and the indigenous Palestinians are being kept in reservations.
To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.
The Palestinians are outraged at long last.

Jewish police clash with Muslim worshipers at the Noble Sanctuary on Thursday

If they are going to rage, might as well put the camera and metal detectors back so the people praying at the wall will be safer.

Short of slitting their own throats, nothing Israel does will satisfy.

If the Israelis went home it would help.

They are home

 

[Roudy]

Not all the Muslims countries would dare to attack Israel. They know it is stronger then they are and that is why there has not been a full blown war as in 1948, 1956, 1967 or 1973 since then.

Israel has become stronger and they know it will beat them all.
And many of the Arab countries are counting on Israel to keep Iran away in case it attempts to attack any of them.

Exactly. So, the question is whether or not this is a good time for Israel to assert herself. Is it too soon? Should she wait a little longer?

The risk in waiting a bit longer is to allow the extremist factions to solidify their strength. The benefit of waiting a little longer is to solidify Israel's relationship with a few key players as allies. Tough call.

Both Jordan and Israel will face an internal threat as well as an external one.

I, like many others, think Israel should not have removed the security at the Mount.

Unfortunately, with all the incitement against Israel, a Jordanian tried to kill an Israeli.

And unfortunately Israel has to walk a thin line sometimes just to keep the Peace treaty which the Jordanians, and this King, do not really want, but needs to be maintained.
Egypt is now the same thing.
And look as to how Turkey yo-yos back and forth depending on its interests, if it is going to be nice with Israel or bash it.

If it was just between the Israelis and the Arab Palestinians, this would have ended long ago, after 1948.

But it is not the Palestinians.

It is the Arab Nation.

And it is the Muslim Nation, as they see the world and what can be done about what they ultimate Islamic goal is. Conquest of the world.

So, unless someone who can be decisive and make the Arabs fear Israel again, is going to become PM of Israel, than the egg shells status quo will remain for now.

We have Gaza. We have Hezbollah, we have Iran. Too many Muslims pointing their weapons at Israel, knowing that she will defeat them.

What will probably will need to happen first is the Gaza and Hezbollah issues taken care of. Yes, a war, or however Israel is going to deal with them in a decisive manner, as they cannot be allowed to build up again, which means taking care that Iran does not attack Israel, if its two lackeys do not succeed.

Once they are defeated and the peril of all three, and possibly ISIS has subsided, then one can impose on the Arabs and Muslims to negotiate and put an end to all of this.

Gaza, Hezbollah, Iran. Not an easy area to live. Not easy neighbors.

I don't think we disagree at all. Its a delicate situation and impossible to predict outcomes with so many players.

I would say the short version is that Israel should cement relations with her potential allies, and yes, that includes some reasoned compromises. (Though I agree Israel should not have taken down the metal detectors).

But eventually it is going to come to war. And Israel is going to need to play hardball with the Palestinians in that war.

(Though I agree Israel should not have taken down the metal detectors).

Interesting that no church or mosque in the West Bank or Gaza have metal detectors.

At best, the Temple Mount is a shared space where multiple holy sites are located. When the members of one faith start killing others like animals, the entity that controls the area can do as they please to bring order and security to the site.

 

[Eloy]

More Trouble expected at Noble Sanctuary (Temple Mount) tomorrow

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank, has called for a ‘Day of Rage’ on 28 July in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The purpose of the action is to protest ongoing security measures implemented by Israeli authorities at the entrance to the Al-Aqsa Mosque, located on the Temple Mount/Noble Sanctuary complex in East Jerusalem’s Old City."
Situation report: Day of Rage protests expected in Palestine - opinion.red24.com

The Israelis' attitude toward the Palestinians has be founded on taking their land to establish a sectarian Jewish state.
Half a century ago this was compounded by the blockading of Gaza followed by periodic massacres of children and civilians.
The West Bank has also been occupied, renamed Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem has been annexed.
Settlements will also be annexed to Israel and the indigenous Palestinians are being kept in reservations.
To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.
The Palestinians are outraged at long last.

Jewish police clash with Muslim worshipers at the Noble Sanctuary on Thursday

If they are going to rage, might as well put the camera and metal detectors back so the people praying at the wall will be safer.

Short of slitting their own throats, nothing Israel does will satisfy.

If the Israelis went home it would help.

They are home

I know a Jewish family in California who are quite at home there.

 

[fncceo]

More Trouble expected at Noble Sanctuary (Temple Mount) tomorrow

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank, has called for a ‘Day of Rage’ on 28 July in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The purpose of the action is to protest ongoing security measures implemented by Israeli authorities at the entrance to the Al-Aqsa Mosque, located on the Temple Mount/Noble Sanctuary complex in East Jerusalem’s Old City."
Situation report: Day of Rage protests expected in Palestine - opinion.red24.com

The Israelis' attitude toward the Palestinians has be founded on taking their land to establish a sectarian Jewish state.
Half a century ago this was compounded by the blockading of Gaza followed by periodic massacres of children and civilians.
The West Bank has also been occupied, renamed Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem has been annexed.
Settlements will also be annexed to Israel and the indigenous Palestinians are being kept in reservations.
To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.
The Palestinians are outraged at long last.

Jewish police clash with Muslim worshipers at the Noble Sanctuary on Thursday

If they are going to rage, might as well put the camera and metal detectors back so the people praying at the wall will be safer.

Short of slitting their own throats, nothing Israel does will satisfy.

If the Israelis went home it would help.

They are home

I know a Jewish family in California who are quite at home there.

You don't know any Jews who aren't your boss or your landlord.

 

[fanger]

I know a few Financially Bankrupt jews And loads of morally Bankrupt ones

 

[fanger]

No they didn't "have to" - any more than the Palestinians "had to" to fight for THEIR rights.

Israel is there to stay, and people need to accept that.
The Palestinians are there to stay also, and people need to accept that.

Yes if only those in Gaza would accept it, but they don't.

Those two facts need to be accepted by everyone as well as the fact that each has fundamental rights that must be respected.

Well the Palestinians refuse to accept the European Jews.

As we know, but the Arabs try to change it into them being "European natives", the European Jews came from Asia, specifically from Asia Minor, from the Land of Israel.

The Jews have accepted living with the Arabs under their sovereignty from the time of the Balfour Declaration.

The Arabs, being Muslims, and following a no-giving-up-any-Muslim-conquered-land-ever, cannot accept Arabs, or any Muslims living under Jewish sovereignty, even if the land is the Ancient Jewish Homeland.

Arabs, the Husseini clan, could not accept it and started the riots in 1920. Then 1921. Then 1929. That clan speared all other Arabs to not accept Jewish sovereignty on ancient Jewish homeland.

The Jews accepted TransJordan going to the Hashemites, against article 5 of the Mandate for Palestine.

The Jews accepted the partition of 1937.

The Jews accepted the partition of 1947.

The Muslims, Arabs, refuse not only the "European" Jews, they cannot accept any Jew, whether they stayed on the land or not.

So, to Coyote, Elroy and others:

How does one change the Muslim mentality which is to see Jews as animals, as less then human, as having to always be under Muslim
subjection.

This is not ALL Muslims. But too many of them, and well armed and too powerful for the rest of the Muslim, Arab world to be able to do anything about it.

Arabs from Jerusalem have been requesting citizenship to become Israelis because they do not want to be part of the "State of Palestine".

If the Israeli policies were so awful as it is usually said, why do Arabs want to stay, and not only reside there but become citizens of Israel and not of the State of Palestine, or Gaza. Or Jordan for that matter?

It would be interesting to see what they think of the African Christian Jews.

Putting genetics and mixing it with their religion as one ,no wonder they are confused.
All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east.
Jews where chased out of their homeland and they fled.
Some to Europe, some to Africa others to America and other lands as well. For the last 2,000 years.
Jews just like everyone else can have a different religion or no religion.
DNA is DNA and has nothing to do with ones religion.
Never mind that all three religious books agree that that Israel is the homeland of all the Jews.

What a silly thing to say "All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east." jew is a religion not a race, or are you going to claim Sammy Davis Jr. and you have the same DNA

 

[fanger]

The only difference between Christian Jews and Jews is Jews don't believe in Christ

Not the only difference ... but a major one. We also have substantially different concepts of the nature of sin and the after life. Belief in a divine entity other than G-d is polytheism (the awkward concept of The Trinity notwithstanding) and a Messianic 'Jew' would be considered a Jew in apostasy. Since Messianic Judaism is based in Protestantism many Messianic Jews aren't Jews at all (not being born to a Jewish mother) and hence take on the identity of 'Jews' perfidiously.

Yes the same exact belief as the Pharisees and Scribes had that Jesus rebuked.
The washing of hands were not so important as belief.
The main thing is belief in Jesus not traditions and sedition.

Precisely ... observance isn't as important as belief. And the fundamental belief of Judaism is there is only ONE G-d. The acceptance of any other divinity is a fundamental denial of Judaism.

You can perform all the rituals and observances of Judaism for your entire life but if you don't accept there is only ONE G-d then you are no closer to being a Jew than a wombat.

Like Muslims, they too accept there is only ONE God, and if you too believe there is only one God, then it must be the same one and only God

 

[fncceo]

Like Muslims, they too accept there is only ONE God,

Which makes them smarter than xtians.

 

[fanger]

Like Muslims, they too accept there is only ONE God,

Which makes them smarter than xtians.

Why, do Xtians have more than one God?

 

[Hollie]

The only difference between Christian Jews and Jews is Jews don't believe in Christ

Not the only difference ... but a major one. We also have substantially different concepts of the nature of sin and the after life. Belief in a divine entity other than G-d is polytheism (the awkward concept of The Trinity notwithstanding) and a Messianic 'Jew' would be considered a Jew in apostasy. Since Messianic Judaism is based in Protestantism many Messianic Jews aren't Jews at all (not being born to a Jewish mother) and hence take on the identity of 'Jews' perfidiously.

Yes the same exact belief as the Pharisees and Scribes had that Jesus rebuked.
The washing of hands were not so important as belief.
The main thing is belief in Jesus not traditions and sedition.

Precisely ... observance isn't as important as belief. And the fundamental belief of Judaism is there is only ONE G-d. The acceptance of any other divinity is a fundamental denial of Judaism.

You can perform all the rituals and observances of Judaism for your entire life but if you don't accept there is only ONE G-d then you are no closer to being a Jew than a wombat.

Like Muslims, they too accept there is only ONE God, and if you too believe there is only one God, then it must be the same one and only God

Not true regarding Moslems. Muhammud (swish), partnered himself with the God he co-opted.... well... stole from Judaism and Christianity.

Accepting God and muhammed (swish), his self-proclaimed messenger and last prophet, is a core component of the Islamist cult.

 

[peach174]

Yes if only those in Gaza would accept it, but they don't.

Those two facts need to be accepted by everyone as well as the fact that each has fundamental rights that must be respected.

Well the Palestinians refuse to accept the European Jews.

As we know, but the Arabs try to change it into them being "European natives", the European Jews came from Asia, specifically from Asia Minor, from the Land of Israel.

The Jews have accepted living with the Arabs under their sovereignty from the time of the Balfour Declaration.

The Arabs, being Muslims, and following a no-giving-up-any-Muslim-conquered-land-ever, cannot accept Arabs, or any Muslims living under Jewish sovereignty, even if the land is the Ancient Jewish Homeland.

Arabs, the Husseini clan, could not accept it and started the riots in 1920. Then 1921. Then 1929. That clan speared all other Arabs to not accept Jewish sovereignty on ancient Jewish homeland.

The Jews accepted TransJordan going to the Hashemites, against article 5 of the Mandate for Palestine.

The Jews accepted the partition of 1937.

The Jews accepted the partition of 1947.

The Muslims, Arabs, refuse not only the "European" Jews, they cannot accept any Jew, whether they stayed on the land or not.

So, to Coyote, Elroy and others:

How does one change the Muslim mentality which is to see Jews as animals, as less then human, as having to always be under Muslim
subjection.

This is not ALL Muslims. But too many of them, and well armed and too powerful for the rest of the Muslim, Arab world to be able to do anything about it.

Arabs from Jerusalem have been requesting citizenship to become Israelis because they do not want to be part of the "State of Palestine".

If the Israeli policies were so awful as it is usually said, why do Arabs want to stay, and not only reside there but become citizens of Israel and not of the State of Palestine, or Gaza. Or Jordan for that matter?

It would be interesting to see what they think of the African Christian Jews.

Putting genetics and mixing it with their religion as one ,no wonder they are confused.
All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east.
Jews where chased out of their homeland and they fled.
Some to Europe, some to Africa others to America and other lands as well. For the last 2,000 years.
Jews just like everyone else can have a different religion or no religion.
DNA is DNA and has nothing to do with ones religion.
Never mind that all three religious books agree that that Israel is the homeland of all the Jews.

What a silly thing to say "All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east." jew is a religion not a race, or are you going to claim Sammy Davis Jr. and you have the same DNA

I don't know what you think I said, but we are agreeing that the DNA comes from the middle east.

 

[fanger]

Those two facts need to be accepted by everyone as well as the fact that each has fundamental rights that must be respected.

Well the Palestinians refuse to accept the European Jews.

As we know, but the Arabs try to change it into them being "European natives", the European Jews came from Asia, specifically from Asia Minor, from the Land of Israel.

The Jews have accepted living with the Arabs under their sovereignty from the time of the Balfour Declaration.

The Arabs, being Muslims, and following a no-giving-up-any-Muslim-conquered-land-ever, cannot accept Arabs, or any Muslims living under Jewish sovereignty, even if the land is the Ancient Jewish Homeland.

Arabs, the Husseini clan, could not accept it and started the riots in 1920. Then 1921. Then 1929. That clan speared all other Arabs to not accept Jewish sovereignty on ancient Jewish homeland.

The Jews accepted TransJordan going to the Hashemites, against article 5 of the Mandate for Palestine.

The Jews accepted the partition of 1937.

The Jews accepted the partition of 1947.

The Muslims, Arabs, refuse not only the "European" Jews, they cannot accept any Jew, whether they stayed on the land or not.

So, to Coyote, Elroy and others:

How does one change the Muslim mentality which is to see Jews as animals, as less then human, as having to always be under Muslim
subjection.

This is not ALL Muslims. But too many of them, and well armed and too powerful for the rest of the Muslim, Arab world to be able to do anything about it.

Arabs from Jerusalem have been requesting citizenship to become Israelis because they do not want to be part of the "State of Palestine".

If the Israeli policies were so awful as it is usually said, why do Arabs want to stay, and not only reside there but become citizens of Israel and not of the State of Palestine, or Gaza. Or Jordan for that matter?

It would be interesting to see what they think of the African Christian Jews.

Putting genetics and mixing it with their religion as one ,no wonder they are confused.
All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east.
Jews where chased out of their homeland and they fled.
Some to Europe, some to Africa others to America and other lands as well. For the last 2,000 years.
Jews just like everyone else can have a different religion or no religion.
DNA is DNA and has nothing to do with ones religion.
Never mind that all three religious books agree that that Israel is the homeland of all the Jews.

What a silly thing to say "All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east." jew is a religion not a race, or are you going to claim Sammy Davis Jr. and you have the same DNA

I don't know what you think I said, but we are agreeing that the DNA comes from the middle east.

Sammy Davis Jr, peach claims to have the same DNA

 

[peach174]

Well the Palestinians refuse to accept the European Jews.

As we know, but the Arabs try to change it into them being "European natives", the European Jews came from Asia, specifically from Asia Minor, from the Land of Israel.

The Jews have accepted living with the Arabs under their sovereignty from the time of the Balfour Declaration.

The Arabs, being Muslims, and following a no-giving-up-any-Muslim-conquered-land-ever, cannot accept Arabs, or any Muslims living under Jewish sovereignty, even if the land is the Ancient Jewish Homeland.

Arabs, the Husseini clan, could not accept it and started the riots in 1920. Then 1921. Then 1929. That clan speared all other Arabs to not accept Jewish sovereignty on ancient Jewish homeland.

The Jews accepted TransJordan going to the Hashemites, against article 5 of the Mandate for Palestine.

The Jews accepted the partition of 1937.

The Jews accepted the partition of 1947.

The Muslims, Arabs, refuse not only the "European" Jews, they cannot accept any Jew, whether they stayed on the land or not.

So, to Coyote, Elroy and others:

How does one change the Muslim mentality which is to see Jews as animals, as less then human, as having to always be under Muslim
subjection.

This is not ALL Muslims. But too many of them, and well armed and too powerful for the rest of the Muslim, Arab world to be able to do anything about it.

Arabs from Jerusalem have been requesting citizenship to become Israelis because they do not want to be part of the "State of Palestine".

If the Israeli policies were so awful as it is usually said, why do Arabs want to stay, and not only reside there but become citizens of Israel and not of the State of Palestine, or Gaza. Or Jordan for that matter?

It would be interesting to see what they think of the African Christian Jews.

Putting genetics and mixing it with their religion as one ,no wonder they are confused.
All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east.
Jews where chased out of their homeland and they fled.
Some to Europe, some to Africa others to America and other lands as well. For the last 2,000 years.
Jews just like everyone else can have a different religion or no religion.
DNA is DNA and has nothing to do with ones religion.
Never mind that all three religious books agree that that Israel is the homeland of all the Jews.

What a silly thing to say "All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east." jew is a religion not a race, or are you going to claim Sammy Davis Jr. and you have the same DNA

I don't know what you think I said, but we are agreeing that the DNA comes from the middle east.

View attachment 141077 Sammy Davis Jr, peach claims to have the same DNA

What are you 15?
You also can not read.

 

[fanger]

The only difference between Christian Jews and Jews is Jews don't believe in Christ

Not the only difference ... but a major one. We also have substantially different concepts of the nature of sin and the after life. Belief in a divine entity other than G-d is polytheism (the awkward concept of The Trinity notwithstanding) and a Messianic 'Jew' would be considered a Jew in apostasy. Since Messianic Judaism is based in Protestantism many Messianic Jews aren't Jews at all (not being born to a Jewish mother) and hence take on the identity of 'Jews' perfidiously.

Yes the same exact belief as the Pharisees and Scribes had that Jesus rebuked.
The washing of hands were not so important as belief.
The main thing is belief in Jesus not traditions and sedition.

Precisely ... observance isn't as important as belief. And the fundamental belief of Judaism is there is only ONE G-d. The acceptance of any other divinity is a fundamental denial of Judaism.

You can perform all the rituals and observances of Judaism for your entire life but if you don't accept there is only ONE G-d then you are no closer to being a Jew than a wombat.

Like Muslims, they too accept there is only ONE God, and if you too believe there is only one God, then it must be the same one and only God

Not true regarding Moslems. Muhammud (swish), partnered himself with the God he co-opted.... well... stole from Judaism and Christianity.

Accepting God and muhammed (swish), his self-proclaimed messenger and last prophet, is a core component of the Islamist cult.

According to Islamic belief, the Prophet Muhammad was the last Messenger of God. He, like all of God's prophets and messengers - such as Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus -- was only a human being. Christians came to the mistaken assumption that Muslims worship Muhammad by formulating an incorrect analogy - they worship Jesus so they assumed Muslims worship Muhammad. This is one of the reasons that they called Muslims by the incorrect name "Mohammedans" for so many years! Muhammad, like Jesus, never claimed divine status. He called people to worship only Almighty God, and he continually emphasized his humanity so that people would not fall into the same errors as Christians did in regards to Jesus. In order to prevent his deification, the Prophet Muhammad always said to refer to him as "the Messenger of God and His slave". Muhammad was chosen to be God's final messenger --- to communicate the message not only in words but to be a living example of the message. Muslims love and respect him because he was of the highest moral character and he brought the Truth from God - which is the Pure Monotheism of Islam. Even when Islam was in its very early stages, God revealed that Muhammad "was sent as a mercy to all of mankind" - thus informing us that the message of Islam would become very widespread. Muslims strive to follow the great example of Muhammad, peace be upon him, but they do not worship him in any way. Additionally, Islam teaches Muslims to respect all of God's prophets and messengers - but respecting and loving them does not mean worshipping them. All true Muslims realize that all worship and prayer must be directed to Almighty God alone. Suffice it to say that worshipping Muhammad --- or anyone else --- along with Almighty God is considered to be the worst sin in Islam. Even if a person claims to be Muslim, but they worship and pray to other than Almighty God, this cancels and nullifies their Islam. The Declaration of Faith of Islam makes it clear that Muslims are taught only to worship God. This declaration is as follows: "There is nothing divine or worthy of being worshipped except for Almighty God, and Muhammad is the Messenger and Servant of God".
Do Muslims Worship Muhammad?

 

[fanger]

Putting genetics and mixing it with their religion as one ,no wonder they are confused.
All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east.
Jews where chased out of their homeland and they fled.
Some to Europe, some to Africa others to America and other lands as well. For the last 2,000 years.
Jews just like everyone else can have a different religion or no religion.
DNA is DNA and has nothing to do with ones religion.
Never mind that all three religious books agree that that Israel is the homeland of all the Jews.

What a silly thing to say "All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east." jew is a religion not a race, or are you going to claim Sammy Davis Jr. and you have the same DNA [/QUOTE]


I don't know what you think I said, but we are agreeing that the DNA comes from the middle east.[/QUOTE]
View attachment 141077 Sammy Davis Jr, peach claims to have the same DNA[/QUOTE]


What are you 15?
You also can not read.[/QUOTE]
14 and 3/4, we can all read what You posted in temple mount

You claim "All Jewish DNA comes from the middle east." Sammy Davis jr is jewish,