Teen Stabbed Man With Ice Pick Over Parking Spot, Police Say

[Joe Steel]

Don't worry! The ACLU is already looking into her defense and we will pay government lawyers to defend this hideous creature.

What's your point? Are you suggesting she shouldn't be represented by counsel? Should we just send her to prison based on the newspaper report?

Or do you just have something against the ACLU?

why does she need the aclu exactly? why not just your ordinary run of the mill court appointed attorney? doyathink?

She was carrying a concealed weapon. Maybe the original poster thinks the ACLU should start defending the right of minors to keep and bear icepicks.

 

[Joe Steel]

I see; teens are less violent than adults.

I think that's probably true. I'd like to know what it was about this girl's life which made her think she had to carry an icepick and why she felt she had to use it against a guy who didn't threaten her.

don't know. but lock her up forever. forever and ever amen.

Maybe opinions like that are why she might need the ACLU.

 

[WillowTree]

What's your point? Are you suggesting she shouldn't be represented by counsel? Should we just send her to prison based on the newspaper report?

Or do you just have something against the ACLU?

why does she need the aclu exactly? why not just your ordinary run of the mill court appointed attorney? doyathink?

She was carrying a concealed weapon. Maybe the original poster thinks the ACLU should start defending the right of minors to keep and bear icepicks.

She is a minor at 18?

 

[WillowTree]

I see; teens are less violent than adults.

I think that's probably true. I'd like to know what it was about this girl's life which made her think she had to carry an icepick and why she felt she had to use it against a guy who didn't threaten her.

don't know. but lock her up forever. forever and ever amen.

Maybe opinions like that are why she might need the ACLU.

oh really? who knew? Gov. Huckabee let a young person out of prison. He went on to kill four cops. Now all the hypocrites on this board blamed Huckabee for his compassion.. So to be fair put this asshole in prison and never let her out in case she might kill a cop someday.

 

[Joe Steel]

why does she need the aclu exactly? why not just your ordinary run of the mill court appointed attorney? doyathink?

She was carrying a concealed weapon. Maybe the original poster thinks the ACLU should start defending the right of minors to keep and bear icepicks.

She is a minor at 18?

The minimum age for carrying a concealed weapon in Missouri is 21. For concealed weapon purposes, she is a minor.

 

[WillowTree]

She was carrying a concealed weapon. Maybe the original poster thinks the ACLU should start defending the right of minors to keep and bear icepicks.

She is a minor at 18?

The minimum age for carrying a concealed weapon in Missouri is 21. For concealed weapon purposes, she is a minor.

Oh! I see.

 

[Emma]

Don't worry! The ACLU is already looking into her defense and we will pay government lawyers to defend this hideous creature.

lol

ACLU wouldn't have anything to do with this (but then you knew that). As far as a government lawyer, she has the right to have one appointed if she can't afford one (but then you knew that too).

Now, Emma. Don't generalize. She's just one ***** out of thousands.

Sorry, I admit I'm a bit biased. That's where my crazy ex and his even crazier mother live.

 

[Emma]

why does she need the aclu exactly? why not just your ordinary run of the mill court appointed attorney? doyathink?

She was carrying a concealed weapon. Maybe the original poster thinks the ACLU should start defending the right of minors to keep and bear icepicks.

She is a minor at 18?

According to asaratis, she is lol

 

[Samson]

ADULTS should never be identified as teens. At 18 she is an ADULT. Teen implies child.

I think your implication here is that the "Bleeding Heart Media" knows that its readership is a bunch of morons that only read headlines, and will represent the Jury Pool from which the girl's defense lawyer may select a Jury of Her Peers. Knowing that she is a "Teen" rather that an "Adult" might sway the jury's sympathies?

Frankly, this seems to be a wild conspiracy theory that gives potential jurists way too much credit for having the intellectual capacity to read.

 

[asaratis]

Don't you think an eighteen year-old girl with an icepick in a shopping center parking lot in December is a rather odd situation? Maybe the easy availability of the icepick actually was the difference between injury and angry words.

There you go...blaming the ice pick.

Of course, the possibility of banning tools which can be used as weapons is very unlikely. However, I think you were getting ready to do a riff on gun control. Is that right?

Not quite...just pointing to the similarly ridiculous argument that any particular weapon should be blamed for deaths rather than the anger of the user. Ice picks do not stab people. Guns do not shoot people. Knives do not jump up and cut people.

What's your point? Are you suggesting she shouldn't be represented by counsel? Should we just send her to prison based on the newspaper report?

Or do you just have something against the ACLU?

Yes.

Don't you think someone should defend civil liberties?

It is not a civil liberty to stab people with ice picks. She should not be defended for doing that. She should be represented by paid counsel only to enter a guilty plea and to argue have her punishment reduced to a minimum. A plea of not guilty should not be allowed in this case. She did it. Witnesses say so.

 

[Emma]

It is not a civil liberty to stab people with ice picks.

No one but you (by invoking the ACLU for God only knows what reason) has even implied such.

She should not be defended for doing that. She should be represented by paid counsel only to enter a guilty plea and to argue have her punishment reduced to a minimum. A plea of not guilty should not be allowed in this case. She did it. Witnesses say so.

You must be from Iran. That explains a lot.

 

[bodecea]

SPRINGFIELD, Mo. — A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot.

Caitlen Watkins, 18, of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action.




Teen Stabbed Man With Ice Pick Over Parking Spot, Police Say - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com



They need to put her sorry ass in prison and never let her out. Ever!

...and let me comment on the rest of the story.

Police say, you say?
Apparently, it is written.

According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted.

...and I gather remembered by people who saw it...



...and to stab a man six times with an icepick is to attempt to murder him...

...and five other puncture wounds.


Don't worry! The ACLU is already looking into her defense and we will pay government lawyers to defend this hideous creature.

However, not having seen a certified security camera video of the entire scene, including the parking of the first vehicle, I cannot...without a shadow of doubt say that the nice young lady did it. The man could have fallen on his own ice pick.

Shortly hereafter, there will be a ban on ice picks. Next will be bats...then lead pipes...

It was obviously the availability of the ice pick that caused this man's unfortunate injury...and brush with death. I wonder who it was that saved his life by pulling the maniacal ***** off him.

No. You have been corrected once already. A teen is a human being being between 13 and 19 inclusive. A minor is a human being being under 21. An adult is a human being being over 20.

I think there have been cases where teens younger than 18 were tried as adults.

Physical age is not necessarily linked to behavior. The ***** certainly wasn't behaving as a child would.

I haven't seen her picture yet but I bet she's a heavyweight with a scowl on her face.

Now, Emma. Don't generalize. She's just one ***** out of thousands.

Now, Emma. You know those professors manipulate and mold mindsets after their likeness. How silly can you be? One's formative years do not end prior to raising children.

No one can't. An adult is over 20.

There you go, trying to change the subject again. We're talkin' about ice picks.

...much the same as the Catholic Church wants your babies from birth. It's about mind control. "Come and let me TEACH you what is right and good," said the snake oil salesman. And to think the colleges get PAID to do it.

That's the way the left wants it. They want to take advantage of the last few formative years they can get their hands on.

Formative?

LOL

With the exception of the rare child prodigy, college students are adults. I think it's ironic that many of those I see get upset at military personnel being referred to as "kids" are the same ones who claim college students (of the same age group as those in the military) are helpless children in need of protection against indoctrination by those big, bad professors.

Wrong on several counts.

• some people never grow up, even years after college
• kids are baby goats
• not all professors are big
• not all professors are bad
• and the most glaring...a child prodigy would not be an exception

Has the ACLU gotten her a lawyer yet? Keep us posted.

 

[Emma]

Has the ACLU gotten her a lawyer yet? Keep us posted.

They'd only be necessary if asaratis had her way.

Ironic, eh?

 

[Joe Steel]

Of course, the possibility of banning tools which can be used as weapons is very unlikely. However, I think you were getting ready to do a riff on gun control. Is that right?

Not quite...just pointing to the similarly ridiculous argument that any particular weapon should be blamed for deaths rather than the anger of the user. Ice picks do not stab people. Guns do not shoot people. Knives do not jump up and cut people.

The presence of those things make serious injury and death more likely. They increase the risk we all face but we don't have to accept the risk. We can control the dangers we face.

Don't you think someone should defend civil liberties?

It is not a civil liberty to stab people with ice picks. She should not be defended for doing that. She should be represented by paid counsel only to enter a guilty plea and to argue have her punishment reduced to a minimum. A plea of not guilty should not be allowed in this case. She did it. Witnesses say so.

No one knows fully what happened until the evidence is tested dispassionately in court before a jury. That's our legal tradition. Should we deny it to her because we read a newspaper article?

 

[Borat]

They need to put her sorry ass in prison and never let her out. Ever!

yeah. she'd be right at home.