Ted Cruz Says SCOTUS 'Clearly Wrong' to Legalize Gay Marriage

[pknopp]

If the federal government was out of marriage we would have polygamy all across this country. Momons would of sustained their right to that. And all the new Muslims would really enjoy that.

So, then the Federal government stays in marriage and will always have a say.

 

[Stann]

So, then the Federal government stays in marriage and will always have a say.

They should after all we are the United States of America. We can't let individual states divide us. Equality and justice under the law are meant for everyone not just the people you think deserve it everyone

 

[pknopp]

They should after all we are the United States of America. We can't let individual states divide us. Equality and justice under the law are meant for everyone not just the people you think deserve it everyone

People I think? As long as they are consenting adults I really don't care who marries who.

 

[Stann]

People I think? As long as they are consenting adults I really don't care who marries who.

Some people on here think they own marriage and it only belongs to them. Ted Cruz is obviously one of those people.

 

[Riff Raff]

All citizens should be equal before the law. If the government affords certain rights and benefits to those it sanctions as legally married then any two citizens of legal age should have access without discrimination.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Why is it all these right wingers are constantly thinking about gay sex? It's weird

The OP is LEFT wing.

 

[Stann]

The OP is LEFT wing.

Most of those who talk about gay sex explicitly are the far-right nut jobs. They must watch a lot of porno or something, because most of the information is incorrect or at least long outdated. The usual, living in the pastor not gearing up for the future.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Most of those who talk about gay sex explicitly are the far-right nut jobs. They must watch a lot of porno or something, because most of the information is incorrect or at least long outdated. The usual, living in the pastor not gearing up for the future.

We only REACT to your need to destroy the culture.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

We only REACT to your need to destroy the culture.

The "culture" or "society" is not being destroyed. It is evolving. Evolution is a natural and necessary procees for all living entities and culture is very much alive. The alternative to evolution is stagnation which leads to an inability to adapt to change and ultimatly death. You should try evolving least you join the dinosaures in extinction

 

[Blues Man]

As far as the government is concerned marriage in nothing but a property contract

 

[Couchpotato]

Some people on here think they own marriage and it only belongs to them. Ted Cruz is obviously one of those people.

Or he believes that the Fed G should t be involved in matters that they are not explicitly given dominion over in the Constitution (Our federalist syste) Marriage being one of the vast majority of things. So I would agree with him that the court was wrong in its ruling in so much as the Fed G just shouldnt be involved. That said now that they are involved I don’t see a way for them to extricate themselves because of legal dependence. Which is one of the reasons Alito cited in Dobbs for that decision not being used as legal reasoning for overturning past decisions like Obergfell.

 

[Couchpotato]

The "culture" or "society" is not being destroyed. It is evolving. Evolution is a natural and necessary procees for all living entities and culture is very much alive. The alternative to evolution is stagnation which leads to an inability to adapt to change and ultimatly death. You should try evolving least you join the dinosaures

the issue is less about the evolution and more about how the evolution is coming about.

 

[Stann]

We only REACT to your need to destroy the culture.

Destroy the culture ? You don't understand civilization at all. Gay people are subculture. They could not destroy civilization, even if they wanted to. They are not anarchists like many of the extremists are in the far-right. Those are the creeps you got to watch out for, if you're concerned about something like that.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Destroy the culture ? You don't understand civilization at all. Gay people are subculture. They could not destroy civilization, even if they wanted to. They are not anarchists like many of the extremists are in the far-right. Those are the creeps you got to watch out for, if you're concerned about something like that.

Ahem, Sodom and Gomorrah ring a bell?

 

[Stann]

Ahem, Sodom and Gomorrah ring a bell?

Yes and if you know that hopefully you know the truth of the story that was just an allegory. In the original telling of that story the cities were destroyed because of in hospitality to strangers. Egypt almost went to war with those allied cities of the plain because a beleaguered Royal Egyptian caravan that had been attacked by Marauders arrived late to the city of Sodom. The gates were already closed, they played it with the men in the towers to reopen the gates to allow them in for safety. They refused they told them they have to wait till morning. During the night they were attacked again in all murdered. They had to pay a massive tribute to the Pharaoh in order to avoid being destroyed for their in hospitality. That is not an allegory that really did happen. The story / allegory that you and most people know was made up / embellished by Josephus in the first century ad. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed approximately 1650 BC.

 

[Stann]

Yes and if you know that hopefully you know the truth of the story that was just an allegory. In the original telling of that story the cities were destroyed because of in hospitality to strangers. Egypt almost went to war with those allied cities of the plain because a beleaguered Royal Egyptian caravan that had been attacked by Marauders arrived late to the city of Sodom. The gates were already closed, they played it with the men in the towers to reopen the gates to allow them in for safety. They refused they told them they have to wait till morning. During the night they were attacked again in all murdered. They had to pay a massive tribute to the Pharaoh in order to avoid being destroyed for their in hospitality. That is not an allegory that really did happen. The story / allegory that you and most people know was made up / embellished by Josephus in the first century ad. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed approximately 1650 BC.

Sodom was destroyed by a " shower of fire from the heavens " also known as a meteor shower.

 

[Mashmont]

It's not special treatment it's the right to marry everyone has that right straight people have had it all the time so they don't know what it's like to go without it gay people finally have got it and they're not going to give it up no matter what you say. This is worse than what the Nazis did to the Jews when they annulled all their marriages. Quote, " Animals do not have the right to marry. " And that's what they said the Jews were animals. For millenia Christians have condemned homosexuals to non-existence. That is even a bigger sin than you could ever imagine. When you meet your maker you'll find out.

Being gay is not a sin. Gays living together as roommates is not a sin. Having gay sex is. I wish people would understand this. My gay brother understands it. He's a devout Catholic, and as fine a man as there is.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The "culture" or "society" is not being destroyed. It is evolving. Evolution is a natural and necessary procees for all living entities and culture is very much alive. The alternative to evolution is stagnation which leads to an inability to adapt to change and ultimatly death. You should try evolving least you join the dinosaures in extinction

It's funny how you invoke “evolution” in defense of the futile efforts to mainstream and normalize defects and disorders that evolution serves to eliminate.

 

[Stann]

Being gay is not a sin. Gays living together as roommates is not a sin. Having gay sex is. I wish people would understand this. My gay brother understands it. He's a devout Catholic, and as fine a man as there is.

They don't understand, they are the ones committing a sin.

 

[Stann]

It's funny how you invoke “evolution” in defense of the futile efforts to mainstream and normalize defectsdefects and disorders that evolution serves to eliminate.

Sorry to see it that way, how about just plain common decency. But I understand you, I consider your thinking on the subject as flawed or defective.