Zone1 Tax the Rich! Make them Pay their Fair Share!

[Hector12]

Until Kennedy dropped the top marginal rates in the first instance of "trickle down" economics.

Unless you can demonstrate the necessary relationship between the cause you claim and the effect you specify, you present a post-hoc fallacy.

Any effort to prove anything in politics risks being dismissed as post hoc ergo propter hoc. We cannot go back in time, change policy, and measure different results.

What matters is that steeply progressive taxation had beneficial immediate results. Most obviously, it paid down the national debt as a percentage of gross domestic product.

 

[Hector12]

You want the federal government to enforce your version of morality. Who would have guessed.

The federal government cannot tax the wealth of the rich, just their income. You'll never take their wealth away.

A wealth tax would do that.

 

[Kruska]

My reasoning goes like this.

If Trump, Musk, or any other Billionaire were standing in line to buy a gallon of milk at the grocery store, should their cost for their gallon of milk be exponentially higher than what I pay, just because they have and make more money than I do?

In my view, fairness means we all pay the same.

Change My Mind.

Shows just how dumb MAGA dolts really are.

You pay your milk with the money you have, before or AFTER Tax??

 

[M14 Shooter]

Any effort to prove anything in politics risks being dismissed as post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Thus, the relationship you described is meaningless.

What matters is that steeply progressive taxation had beneficial immediate results.

You cannot demonstrate this to be true.

 

[M14 Shooter]

A wealth tax would do that.

The federal government cannot tax the wealth of the rich, just their income. You'll never take their wealth away.

 

[Hector12]

The federal government cannot tax the wealth of the rich, just their income. You'll never take their wealth away.

The Constitution of the United States

Article I
Section 8

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription

Note: The following text is a transcription of the Constitution as it was inscribed by Jacob Shallus on parchment (the document on display in the Rotunda at the National Archives Museum). The spelling and punctuation reflect the original.

www.archives.gov

 

[Hector12]

Thus, the relationship you described is meaningless.

You cannot demonstrate this to be true.

Steeply progressive taxes enabled the government to pay down the national debt as a percentage of gross domestic product. Tax cuts for the rich led to the increase of the national debt. In neither case was it a coincidence.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Constitution of the United States

If you are right, why do we have the 16th Amendment?
Oh that's right -- because the federal government did not have the power to tax incomes.
Similarly, until the constitution is amended, the federal government does not have the power to tax wealth.

The federal government cannot tax the wealth of the rich, just their income. You'll never take their wealth away.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Steeply progressive taxes enabled the government to pay down the national debt

You cannot demonstrate this to be true.

Tax cuts for the rich led to the increase of the national debt.

You cannot demonstrate this to be true.

 

[Chuz Life]

Steeply progressive taxes enabled the government to pay down the national debt as a percentage of gross domestic product. Tax cuts for the rich led to the increase of the national debt. In neither case was it a coincidence.

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Will re-raising the taxes on top earners result in paying down the debt? yes or no?

Raising taxes on top earners by itself will not automatically pay down the national debt. It can contribute to debt reduction, but only when paired with other conditions that were present in the 1950s–60s and are not present today. The page you’re reading argues that the relationship was causal, but the historical record shows a more conditional picture.

Will re-raising the taxes on top earners result in paying down the debt? yes or no?

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[Hector12]

Will re-raising the taxes on top earners result in paying down the debt? yes or no?

Raising taxes on top earners by itself will not automatically pay down the national debt. It can contribute to debt reduction, but only when paired with other conditions that were present in the 1950s–60s and are not present today. The page you’re reading argues that the relationship was causal, but the historical record shows a more conditional picture.

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The rich have plenty of money. All we need to do is to direct the Government to take most if from them. If they complain, the government should take more. If they evade taxes everything they own should be confiscated, and they should be thrown into prison.

 

[Hector12]

If you are right, why do we have the 16th Amendment?
Oh that's right -- because the federal government did not have the power to tax incomes.
Similarly, until the constitution is amended, the federal government does not have the power to tax wealth.

The federal government cannot tax the wealth of the rich, just their income. You'll never take their wealth away.

The Sixteenth Amerndment was passed in order to clarify something that the Constitution had already stated.

 

[Chuz Life]

The rich have plenty of money. All we need to do is to direct the Government to take most if from them. If they complain, the government should take more. If they evade taxes everything they own should be confiscated, and they should be thrown into prison.

Ignore it is.

Congrats.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Sixteenth Amerndment was passed in order to clarify something that the Constitution had already stated.

You're lying.
Absent the 16th amendment the federal government did not have the power to tax incomes. The SC said so.
Absent another amendment, the federal government does not have the power to tax wealth.

The federal government cannot tax the wealth of the rich, just their income. You'll never take their wealth away.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The rich have plenty of money. All we need to do is to direct the Government to take most if from them. If they complain, the government should take more. If they evade taxes everything they own should be confiscated, and they should be thrown into prison.

People like you are why we have the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Mashmont]

Great idea if you change the fact that the top 1% of earners receive more than the bottom 60% in tax breaks and grants.

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Tax breaks exist for a reason. Often it means you are doing something for others.
Like raising kids or donating to charity. Tax breaks are available to anyone who does the type of activity that merits it. So is having wealth for that matter. That’s why the leftwing victimhood mentality irks me so.

 

[Hector12]

You're lying.
Absent the 16th amendment the federal government did not have the power to tax incomes. The SC said so.
Absent another amendment, the federal government does not have the power to tax wealth.

The federal government cannot tax the wealth of the rich, just their income. You'll never take their wealth away.

The Supreme Court can change its mind.

Pew Research Center, April 6, 2026

Roughly six-in-ten adults now say the feeling that some wealthy people (61%) and corporations (60%) don’t pay their fair share bothers them a lot. These percentages are largely unchanged in recent years.

What bothers Americans most about taxes? Feeling that some corporations, wealthy people don’t pay their fair share

61% of adults say that the feeling that some wealthy people don’t pay their fair share bothers them a lot. 60% say this about some some corporations.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Hector12]

People like you are why we have the 2nd Amendment.

People like you are why we have prisons.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Supreme Court can change its mind.

Until it does, or until an amendment is passed, the federal government cannot tax the wealth of the rich, just their income.
You'll never take their wealth away.

 

[M14 Shooter]

People like you are why we have prisons.

You though that was clever?