Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.

[OldLady]

Rural Infection Rates Spike As Urban Outbreaks Subside, Data Says

Rural Infection Rates Spike As Urban Outbreaks Subside, Data Says

As COVID-19 may be on a slow, downward trend in the hotspots of New York City, New Orleans, and Detroit, the virus appears to be finding new ground elsewhere: in rural America. Data compiled by the…

talkingpointsmemo.com

As COVID-19 may be on a slow, downward trend in the hotspots of New York City, New Orleans, and Detroit, the virus appears to be finding new ground elsewhere: in rural America.

Data compiled by the Kaiser Family Foundation suggests that infection rates are increasing at higher rates in rural areas than in urban settings.

It’s a significant, if not unsurprising trend: the disease is fanning out from big, urban areas like New York City to more sparsely populated parts of the country.


New Gov’t Document: COVID Deaths Projected To Increase To 3,000 Per Day By June 1

New Gov’t Document: COVID Deaths Projected To Increase To 3,000 Per Day By June 1

The Trump administration anticipates that more than 3,000 Americans will be dying each day of COVID-19 by June 1, according to a newly revealed internal government document obtained by the New York…

talkingpointsmemo.com

The Trump administration anticipates that more than 3,000 Americans will be dying each day of COVID-19 by June 1, according to a newly revealed internal government document obtained by the New York Times.

The Times obtained an internal Centers for Disease Control document providing detailed projections on the progression of the COVID-19 pandemic around the country. The data goes up to May 2.

The document says that new cases will grow to a rate of around 225,000 per day by June 1, and that deaths will reach around 3,000 per day by the same date.
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Just the facts, dude.

How is it "fanning out" unless people from these urban areas are visiting people from rural areas? Every small province in Canada has hardly been hit, and they won't get hit even as some are starting to slowly open. Ontario and Quebec are by far the biggest hit places.

I can't see suburban America get hit with this virus unless it is introduced somehow. Unless 1000 infected people from New York for instance, all decide to bus up to Kansas, I think most areas are safe.

The weather is getting better. Already summer like in a lot of places. People don't travel to Kansas for vacation, no, but they do drive to Maine. Big time.
It is going to kill our economy, but unless they own a summer cottage or home here, they won't find anywhere to stay. All hotels, campgrounds, B&B's etc. are closed and even in July will only be open to Mainers. The snow birds are already returning. The governor has Ordered a 14 day quarantine for anyone coming or returning to Maine, but it is on the "honor system." I predict we will be hit much harder than we have been so far, and it will happen when the out of staters come. It is inevitable.

 

[Siete]

more people have died in one US meat packing plant than they have Sweden

and that meat packing plant didnt have a lockdown either -

splain that u shitstain's

 

[bripat9643]

more people have died in one US meat packing plant than they have Sweden

and that meat packing plant didnt have a lockdown either -

splain that u shitstain's

It's a lie. Two workers died who worked at the Smithfield packing plant in South Dakota.

 

[OldLady]

more people have died in one US meat packing plant than they have Sweden

and that meat packing plant didnt have a lockdown either -

splain that u shitstain's

What meat packing plant has had 2,941 deaths?

 

[Markle]

more people have died in one US meat packing plant than they have Sweden

and that meat packing plant didnt have a lockdown either -

splain that u shitstain's

Wow, that's quite a lie.

Please show us all the US meat packing plant with more than 3,000 deaths. (Other than the livestock.)

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics

www.realclearpolitics.com

A side note, my chart is from yesterday. Here it shows Sweden with 2,854 deaths, today's chart shows an additional 87 deaths for a total today of 2,941.

 

[Siete]

View attachment 332713

cases and death rates are still on going

 

[bripat9643]

View attachment 332713

cases and death rates are still on going

In other words, you lied.

Your link doesn't open.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Sweden's daily new deaths over the last 17 days, from the WHO's daily COVID-19 situation report--notice the downward trend, albeit in a jagged manner:

May 5: 87 new deaths
May 4: 10 new deaths
May 3: 16 new deaths
May 2: 67 new deaths
May 1: 124 new deaths
April 30: 107 new deaths
April 29: 81 new deaths
April 28: 80 new deaths
April 27: 2 new deaths
April 26: 40 new deaths
April 25: 131 new deaths
April 24: 84 new deaths
April 23: 172 new deaths
April 22: 185 new deaths
April 21: 40 new deaths
April 20: 29 new deaths
April 19: 111 new deaths

 

[mikegriffith1]

How does Sweden's overall (or "crude") COVID-19 death rate of 0.02407% compare with that of other European nations, all of whom have imposed lockdowns? It compares very well. These percentages are based on the May 1 WHO COVID-19 daily situation report:

Belgium----------------- 0.06580%
Spain-------------------- 0.05176%
Italy---------------------- 0.04591%
United Kingdom ------- 0.03918%
France------------------- 0.03590%
Netherlands------------- 0.02723%
Ireland------------------- 0.02430%
Sweden------------------ 0.02407% <<<
Switzerland-------------- 0.01642%
Portugal ----------------- 0.00947%
Germany----------------- 0.00757%
Austria ------------------ 0.00654%
Norway------------------ 0.00378%

 

[AntonToo]

It's getting harder and harder for the shutdown Nazis to justify continuing this farce:

Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.​

Sweden did not have a lockdown.​

​

Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.​

​

The actual number was 2,769.​

​

The Telegraph just reported:​

​

How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown​

​

Denmark locked down hard and early, shutting schools, borders, cafés, restaurants and shops. Sweden has taken a light-touch approach, shutting none of these things, and instead relying on the public’s “common sense behaviour”.​

​

If the R number is 1, it means that each person infected goes on to infect an average of one other person during the course of their illness. So long as a country keeps R below one, the number of infections will steadily decrease until the pandemic comes to an end.​

​

The Public Health Institute of Sweden estimated that Sweden’s R number has fallen from 1.4 at the start of April to 0.85 at the end of April.​

​

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency, meanwhile, estimated that Denmark’s had fallen from about 1 at the start of April to about 0.9 at the end of April.​

​

Sweden’s numbers are a standing rebuke to the Imperial College study that has done so much to influence UK policy. Researchers at the university predicted that Sweden’s approach would leave it with an R of above 3, leading to 40,000 coronavirus deaths by May 1. Sweden’s current death tally is just 2,769.​

​

Uno Wennergren, a mathematician and pandemic modeller at Linköping University, suspects Sweden’s low number in part comes from growing levels of immunity in Stockholm, where the outbreak has so far been concentrated, and in part from social distancing.​

​

“It looks like its a combination of herd immunity effect and lower infectability. Both seem to be acting simultaneously,” he said.​

​

Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell now estimates that as many as a quarter of people in Stockholm might already be immune. The capital might have herd immunity within weeks, he argues.​

​

You're not citing the most important figure. DEATHS per million. Sweden having TWENTY PERCENT MORE FATALITIES PER MILLION than the United States is a good thing?

You do realize that 280 deaths per million is .28% of the population. That is just about 1/4 of a percent and these are countries in the top 10 in the world. The overwhelming majority of countries are lower than this. The world-wide deaths from COVID is 0.03%(255,000 out of 8,000,000,000).

And what is your point.

Sweden openly admits they made some big mistakes early on. 1 in 3 deaths are from nursing homes.

But they are are on the downward....

View attachment 332689

Sweden And Denmark Took Very Different Approaches To Fighting The Coronavirus. The Data Shows Many More People Are Dying In Sweden.

Sweden has seen a 34.5% increase in excess deaths this month compared to a 6.5% rise in Denmark.

www.buzzfeed.com

Questions?

Not really.

If you think it makes a point, you are full of shit.

Comparing similar, directly neighboring countries makes a point to anyone not-stupid.

 

[AntonToo]

How does Sweden's overall (or "crude") COVID-19 death rate of 0.02407% compare with that of other European nations, all of whom have imposed lockdowns? It compares very well. These percentages are based on the May 1 WHO COVID-19 daily situation report:

Belgium----------------- 0.06580%
Spain-------------------- 0.05176%
Italy---------------------- 0.04591%
United Kingdom ------- 0.03918%
France------------------- 0.03590%
Netherlands------------- 0.02723%
Ireland------------------- 0.02430%
Sweden------------------ 0.02407% <<<
Switzerland-------------- 0.01642%
Portugal ----------------- 0.00947%
Germany----------------- 0.00757%
Austria ------------------ 0.00654%
Norway------------------ 0.00378%

The source is usually provided for data.

But I found it here:

COVID-19 deaths per capita by country | Statista

COVID deaths worldwide were highest in Peru, topping a list that compares deaths per million in 210 countries worldwide.

www.statista.com

Sweeden, despite it's mostly quiet, socially distant culture has 7th worst death rate in the world, while it's direct neighbors have had lower death rates.

Number one by far is Belgium, which also never shut down.

 

[bripat9643]

It's getting harder and harder for the shutdown Nazis to justify continuing this farce:

Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.​

Sweden did not have a lockdown.​

​

Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.​

​

The actual number was 2,769.​

​

The Telegraph just reported:​

​

How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown​

​

Denmark locked down hard and early, shutting schools, borders, cafés, restaurants and shops. Sweden has taken a light-touch approach, shutting none of these things, and instead relying on the public’s “common sense behaviour”.​

​

If the R number is 1, it means that each person infected goes on to infect an average of one other person during the course of their illness. So long as a country keeps R below one, the number of infections will steadily decrease until the pandemic comes to an end.​

​

The Public Health Institute of Sweden estimated that Sweden’s R number has fallen from 1.4 at the start of April to 0.85 at the end of April.​

​

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency, meanwhile, estimated that Denmark’s had fallen from about 1 at the start of April to about 0.9 at the end of April.​

​

Sweden’s numbers are a standing rebuke to the Imperial College study that has done so much to influence UK policy. Researchers at the university predicted that Sweden’s approach would leave it with an R of above 3, leading to 40,000 coronavirus deaths by May 1. Sweden’s current death tally is just 2,769.​

​

Uno Wennergren, a mathematician and pandemic modeller at Linköping University, suspects Sweden’s low number in part comes from growing levels of immunity in Stockholm, where the outbreak has so far been concentrated, and in part from social distancing.​

​

“It looks like its a combination of herd immunity effect and lower infectability. Both seem to be acting simultaneously,” he said.​

​

Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell now estimates that as many as a quarter of people in Stockholm might already be immune. The capital might have herd immunity within weeks, he argues.​

​

You're not citing the most important figure. DEATHS per million. Sweden having TWENTY PERCENT MORE FATALITIES PER MILLION than the United States is a good thing?

You do realize that 280 deaths per million is .28% of the population. That is just about 1/4 of a percent and these are countries in the top 10 in the world. The overwhelming majority of countries are lower than this. The world-wide deaths from COVID is 0.03%(255,000 out of 8,000,000,000).

And what is your point.

Sweden openly admits they made some big mistakes early on. 1 in 3 deaths are from nursing homes.

But they are are on the downward....

View attachment 332689

Sweden And Denmark Took Very Different Approaches To Fighting The Coronavirus. The Data Shows Many More People Are Dying In Sweden.

Sweden has seen a 34.5% increase in excess deaths this month compared to a 6.5% rise in Denmark.

www.buzzfeed.com

Questions?

Not really.

If you think it makes a point, you are full of shit.

Comparing similar, directly neighboring countries makes a point to anyone not-stupid.

It's a weasel that allows you to ignore the rest of the data that you find inconvenient.

 

[AntonToo]

It's getting harder and harder for the shutdown Nazis to justify continuing this farce:

Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.​

Sweden did not have a lockdown.​

​

Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.​

​

The actual number was 2,769.​

​

The Telegraph just reported:​

​

How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown​

​

Denmark locked down hard and early, shutting schools, borders, cafés, restaurants and shops. Sweden has taken a light-touch approach, shutting none of these things, and instead relying on the public’s “common sense behaviour”.​

​

If the R number is 1, it means that each person infected goes on to infect an average of one other person during the course of their illness. So long as a country keeps R below one, the number of infections will steadily decrease until the pandemic comes to an end.​

​

The Public Health Institute of Sweden estimated that Sweden’s R number has fallen from 1.4 at the start of April to 0.85 at the end of April.​

​

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency, meanwhile, estimated that Denmark’s had fallen from about 1 at the start of April to about 0.9 at the end of April.​

​

Sweden’s numbers are a standing rebuke to the Imperial College study that has done so much to influence UK policy. Researchers at the university predicted that Sweden’s approach would leave it with an R of above 3, leading to 40,000 coronavirus deaths by May 1. Sweden’s current death tally is just 2,769.​

​

Uno Wennergren, a mathematician and pandemic modeller at Linköping University, suspects Sweden’s low number in part comes from growing levels of immunity in Stockholm, where the outbreak has so far been concentrated, and in part from social distancing.​

​

“It looks like its a combination of herd immunity effect and lower infectability. Both seem to be acting simultaneously,” he said.​

​

Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell now estimates that as many as a quarter of people in Stockholm might already be immune. The capital might have herd immunity within weeks, he argues.​

​

You're not citing the most important figure. DEATHS per million. Sweden having TWENTY PERCENT MORE FATALITIES PER MILLION than the United States is a good thing?

You do realize that 280 deaths per million is .28% of the population. That is just about 1/4 of a percent and these are countries in the top 10 in the world. The overwhelming majority of countries are lower than this. The world-wide deaths from COVID is 0.03%(255,000 out of 8,000,000,000).

And what is your point.

Sweden openly admits they made some big mistakes early on. 1 in 3 deaths are from nursing homes.

But they are are on the downward....

View attachment 332689

Sweden And Denmark Took Very Different Approaches To Fighting The Coronavirus. The Data Shows Many More People Are Dying In Sweden.

Sweden has seen a 34.5% increase in excess deaths this month compared to a 6.5% rise in Denmark.

www.buzzfeed.com

Questions?

Not really.

If you think it makes a point, you are full of shit.

Comparing similar, directly neighboring countries makes a point to anyone not-stupid.

It's a weasel that allows you to ignore the rest of the data that you find inconvenient.

I'm not ignoring it - you look at Sweeden's direct neighbors and they are all doing better. That's as true of a comparison as you can have to adjust for cultural and travel differences.

 

[bripat9643]

It's getting harder and harder for the shutdown Nazis to justify continuing this farce:

Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.​

Sweden did not have a lockdown.​

​

Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.​

​

The actual number was 2,769.​

​

The Telegraph just reported:​

​

How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown​

​

Denmark locked down hard and early, shutting schools, borders, cafés, restaurants and shops. Sweden has taken a light-touch approach, shutting none of these things, and instead relying on the public’s “common sense behaviour”.​

​

If the R number is 1, it means that each person infected goes on to infect an average of one other person during the course of their illness. So long as a country keeps R below one, the number of infections will steadily decrease until the pandemic comes to an end.​

​

The Public Health Institute of Sweden estimated that Sweden’s R number has fallen from 1.4 at the start of April to 0.85 at the end of April.​

​

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency, meanwhile, estimated that Denmark’s had fallen from about 1 at the start of April to about 0.9 at the end of April.​

​

Sweden’s numbers are a standing rebuke to the Imperial College study that has done so much to influence UK policy. Researchers at the university predicted that Sweden’s approach would leave it with an R of above 3, leading to 40,000 coronavirus deaths by May 1. Sweden’s current death tally is just 2,769.​

​

Uno Wennergren, a mathematician and pandemic modeller at Linköping University, suspects Sweden’s low number in part comes from growing levels of immunity in Stockholm, where the outbreak has so far been concentrated, and in part from social distancing.​

​

“It looks like its a combination of herd immunity effect and lower infectability. Both seem to be acting simultaneously,” he said.​

​

Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell now estimates that as many as a quarter of people in Stockholm might already be immune. The capital might have herd immunity within weeks, he argues.​

​

You're not citing the most important figure. DEATHS per million. Sweden having TWENTY PERCENT MORE FATALITIES PER MILLION than the United States is a good thing?

You do realize that 280 deaths per million is .28% of the population. That is just about 1/4 of a percent and these are countries in the top 10 in the world. The overwhelming majority of countries are lower than this. The world-wide deaths from COVID is 0.03%(255,000 out of 8,000,000,000).

And what is your point.

Sweden openly admits they made some big mistakes early on. 1 in 3 deaths are from nursing homes.

But they are are on the downward....

View attachment 332689

Sweden And Denmark Took Very Different Approaches To Fighting The Coronavirus. The Data Shows Many More People Are Dying In Sweden.

Sweden has seen a 34.5% increase in excess deaths this month compared to a 6.5% rise in Denmark.

www.buzzfeed.com

Questions?

Not really.

If you think it makes a point, you are full of shit.

Comparing similar, directly neighboring countries makes a point to anyone not-stupid.

It's a weasel that allows you to ignore the rest of the data that you find inconvenient.

I'm not ignoring it - you look at Sweeden's direct neighbors and they are all doing better. That's as true of a comparison as you can have to adjust for cultural and travel differences.

You are ignoring it, douchebag. You're ignoring all the nearby countries that have higher death rates.

 

[AntonToo]

It's getting harder and harder for the shutdown Nazis to justify continuing this farce:

Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.​

Sweden did not have a lockdown.​

​

Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.​

​

The actual number was 2,769.​

​

The Telegraph just reported:​

​

How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown​

​

Denmark locked down hard and early, shutting schools, borders, cafés, restaurants and shops. Sweden has taken a light-touch approach, shutting none of these things, and instead relying on the public’s “common sense behaviour”.​

​

If the R number is 1, it means that each person infected goes on to infect an average of one other person during the course of their illness. So long as a country keeps R below one, the number of infections will steadily decrease until the pandemic comes to an end.​

​

The Public Health Institute of Sweden estimated that Sweden’s R number has fallen from 1.4 at the start of April to 0.85 at the end of April.​

​

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency, meanwhile, estimated that Denmark’s had fallen from about 1 at the start of April to about 0.9 at the end of April.​

​

Sweden’s numbers are a standing rebuke to the Imperial College study that has done so much to influence UK policy. Researchers at the university predicted that Sweden’s approach would leave it with an R of above 3, leading to 40,000 coronavirus deaths by May 1. Sweden’s current death tally is just 2,769.​

​

Uno Wennergren, a mathematician and pandemic modeller at Linköping University, suspects Sweden’s low number in part comes from growing levels of immunity in Stockholm, where the outbreak has so far been concentrated, and in part from social distancing.​

​

“It looks like its a combination of herd immunity effect and lower infectability. Both seem to be acting simultaneously,” he said.​

​

Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell now estimates that as many as a quarter of people in Stockholm might already be immune. The capital might have herd immunity within weeks, he argues.​

​

You're not citing the most important figure. DEATHS per million. Sweden having TWENTY PERCENT MORE FATALITIES PER MILLION than the United States is a good thing?

You do realize that 280 deaths per million is .28% of the population. That is just about 1/4 of a percent and these are countries in the top 10 in the world. The overwhelming majority of countries are lower than this. The world-wide deaths from COVID is 0.03%(255,000 out of 8,000,000,000).

And what is your point.

Sweden openly admits they made some big mistakes early on. 1 in 3 deaths are from nursing homes.

But they are are on the downward....

View attachment 332689

Sweden And Denmark Took Very Different Approaches To Fighting The Coronavirus. The Data Shows Many More People Are Dying In Sweden.

Sweden has seen a 34.5% increase in excess deaths this month compared to a 6.5% rise in Denmark.

www.buzzfeed.com

Questions?

Not really.

If you think it makes a point, you are full of shit.

Comparing similar, directly neighboring countries makes a point to anyone not-stupid.

It's a weasel that allows you to ignore the rest of the data that you find inconvenient.

I'm not ignoring it - you look at Sweeden's direct neighbors and they are all doing better. That's as true of a comparison as you can have to adjust for cultural and travel differences.

You are ignoring it, douchebag. You're ignoring all the nearby countries that have higher death rates.

"nearby' - somewhere in Europe, with different culture, population density and travel patterns.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

It's getting harder and harder for the shutdown Nazis to justify continuing this farce:

Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.​

Sweden did not have a lockdown.​

​

Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.​

​

The actual number was 2,769.​

​

The Telegraph just reported:​

​

How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown​

​

Denmark locked down hard and early, shutting schools, borders, cafés, restaurants and shops. Sweden has taken a light-touch approach, shutting none of these things, and instead relying on the public’s “common sense behaviour”.​

​

If the R number is 1, it means that each person infected goes on to infect an average of one other person during the course of their illness. So long as a country keeps R below one, the number of infections will steadily decrease until the pandemic comes to an end.​

​

The Public Health Institute of Sweden estimated that Sweden’s R number has fallen from 1.4 at the start of April to 0.85 at the end of April.​

​

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency, meanwhile, estimated that Denmark’s had fallen from about 1 at the start of April to about 0.9 at the end of April.​

​

Sweden’s numbers are a standing rebuke to the Imperial College study that has done so much to influence UK policy. Researchers at the university predicted that Sweden’s approach would leave it with an R of above 3, leading to 40,000 coronavirus deaths by May 1. Sweden’s current death tally is just 2,769.​

​

Uno Wennergren, a mathematician and pandemic modeller at Linköping University, suspects Sweden’s low number in part comes from growing levels of immunity in Stockholm, where the outbreak has so far been concentrated, and in part from social distancing.​

​

“It looks like its a combination of herd immunity effect and lower infectability. Both seem to be acting simultaneously,” he said.​

​

Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell now estimates that as many as a quarter of people in Stockholm might already be immune. The capital might have herd immunity within weeks, he argues.​

​

You're not citing the most important figure. DEATHS per million. Sweden having TWENTY PERCENT MORE FATALITIES PER MILLION than the United States is a good thing?

You do realize that 280 deaths per million is .28% of the population. That is just about 1/4 of a percent and these are countries in the top 10 in the world. The overwhelming majority of countries are lower than this. The world-wide deaths from COVID is 0.03%(255,000 out of 8,000,000,000).

And what is your point.

Sweden openly admits they made some big mistakes early on. 1 in 3 deaths are from nursing homes.

But they are are on the downward....

View attachment 332689

Sweden And Denmark Took Very Different Approaches To Fighting The Coronavirus. The Data Shows Many More People Are Dying In Sweden.

Sweden has seen a 34.5% increase in excess deaths this month compared to a 6.5% rise in Denmark.

www.buzzfeed.com

Questions?

Not really.

If you think it makes a point, you are full of shit.

Comparing similar, directly neighboring countries makes a point to anyone not-stupid.

It's a weasel that allows you to ignore the rest of the data that you find inconvenient.

I'm not ignoring it - you look at Sweeden's direct neighbors and they are all doing better. That's as true of a comparison as you can have to adjust for cultural and travel differences.

You are ignoring it, douchebag. You're ignoring all the nearby countries that have higher death rates.

"nearby' - somewhere in Europe, with different culture, population density and travel patterns.

Oh, so you have some quantification for culture, density and travel patterns.

Please share them.

Just saying they exist is bullshit.

 

[bripat9643]

It's getting harder and harder for the shutdown Nazis to justify continuing this farce:

Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.​

Sweden did not have a lockdown.​

​

Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.​

​

The actual number was 2,769.​

​

The Telegraph just reported:​

​

How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown​

​

Denmark locked down hard and early, shutting schools, borders, cafés, restaurants and shops. Sweden has taken a light-touch approach, shutting none of these things, and instead relying on the public’s “common sense behaviour”.​

​

If the R number is 1, it means that each person infected goes on to infect an average of one other person during the course of their illness. So long as a country keeps R below one, the number of infections will steadily decrease until the pandemic comes to an end.​

​

The Public Health Institute of Sweden estimated that Sweden’s R number has fallen from 1.4 at the start of April to 0.85 at the end of April.​

​

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency, meanwhile, estimated that Denmark’s had fallen from about 1 at the start of April to about 0.9 at the end of April.​

​

Sweden’s numbers are a standing rebuke to the Imperial College study that has done so much to influence UK policy. Researchers at the university predicted that Sweden’s approach would leave it with an R of above 3, leading to 40,000 coronavirus deaths by May 1. Sweden’s current death tally is just 2,769.​

​

Uno Wennergren, a mathematician and pandemic modeller at Linköping University, suspects Sweden’s low number in part comes from growing levels of immunity in Stockholm, where the outbreak has so far been concentrated, and in part from social distancing.​

​

“It looks like its a combination of herd immunity effect and lower infectability. Both seem to be acting simultaneously,” he said.​

​

Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell now estimates that as many as a quarter of people in Stockholm might already be immune. The capital might have herd immunity within weeks, he argues.​

​

You're not citing the most important figure. DEATHS per million. Sweden having TWENTY PERCENT MORE FATALITIES PER MILLION than the United States is a good thing?

You do realize that 280 deaths per million is .28% of the population. That is just about 1/4 of a percent and these are countries in the top 10 in the world. The overwhelming majority of countries are lower than this. The world-wide deaths from COVID is 0.03%(255,000 out of 8,000,000,000).

And what is your point.

Sweden openly admits they made some big mistakes early on. 1 in 3 deaths are from nursing homes.

But they are are on the downward....

View attachment 332689

Sweden And Denmark Took Very Different Approaches To Fighting The Coronavirus. The Data Shows Many More People Are Dying In Sweden.

Sweden has seen a 34.5% increase in excess deaths this month compared to a 6.5% rise in Denmark.

www.buzzfeed.com

Questions?

Not really.

If you think it makes a point, you are full of shit.

Comparing similar, directly neighboring countries makes a point to anyone not-stupid.

It's a weasel that allows you to ignore the rest of the data that you find inconvenient.

I'm not ignoring it - you look at Sweeden's direct neighbors and they are all doing better. That's as true of a comparison as you can have to adjust for cultural and travel differences.

You are ignoring it, douchebag. You're ignoring all the nearby countries that have higher death rates.

"nearby' - somewhere in Europe, with different culture, population density and travel patterns.

You can drive from the Netherlands to Denmark in a few hours, numbskull.

You just spent a lot of time arguing that culture, population density and travel patterns don't matter. Only whether they implemented a shutdown matters, right?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

It's getting harder and harder for the shutdown Nazis to justify continuing this farce:

Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.​

Sweden did not have a lockdown.​

​

Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.​

​

The actual number was 2,769.​

​

The Telegraph just reported:​

​

How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown​

​

Denmark locked down hard and early, shutting schools, borders, cafés, restaurants and shops. Sweden has taken a light-touch approach, shutting none of these things, and instead relying on the public’s “common sense behaviour”.​

​

If the R number is 1, it means that each person infected goes on to infect an average of one other person during the course of their illness. So long as a country keeps R below one, the number of infections will steadily decrease until the pandemic comes to an end.​

​

The Public Health Institute of Sweden estimated that Sweden’s R number has fallen from 1.4 at the start of April to 0.85 at the end of April.​

​

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency, meanwhile, estimated that Denmark’s had fallen from about 1 at the start of April to about 0.9 at the end of April.​

​

Sweden’s numbers are a standing rebuke to the Imperial College study that has done so much to influence UK policy. Researchers at the university predicted that Sweden’s approach would leave it with an R of above 3, leading to 40,000 coronavirus deaths by May 1. Sweden’s current death tally is just 2,769.​

​

Uno Wennergren, a mathematician and pandemic modeller at Linköping University, suspects Sweden’s low number in part comes from growing levels of immunity in Stockholm, where the outbreak has so far been concentrated, and in part from social distancing.​

​

“It looks like its a combination of herd immunity effect and lower infectability. Both seem to be acting simultaneously,” he said.​

​

Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell now estimates that as many as a quarter of people in Stockholm might already be immune. The capital might have herd immunity within weeks, he argues.​

​

You're not citing the most important figure. DEATHS per million. Sweden having TWENTY PERCENT MORE FATALITIES PER MILLION than the United States is a good thing?

You do realize that 280 deaths per million is .28% of the population. That is just about 1/4 of a percent and these are countries in the top 10 in the world. The overwhelming majority of countries are lower than this. The world-wide deaths from COVID is 0.03%(255,000 out of 8,000,000,000).

And what is your point.

Sweden openly admits they made some big mistakes early on. 1 in 3 deaths are from nursing homes.

But they are are on the downward....

View attachment 332689

Sweden And Denmark Took Very Different Approaches To Fighting The Coronavirus. The Data Shows Many More People Are Dying In Sweden.

Sweden has seen a 34.5% increase in excess deaths this month compared to a 6.5% rise in Denmark.

www.buzzfeed.com

Questions?

Not really.

If you think it makes a point, you are full of shit.

Comparing similar, directly neighboring countries makes a point to anyone not-stupid.

It's a weasel that allows you to ignore the rest of the data that you find inconvenient.

I'm not ignoring it - you look at Sweeden's direct neighbors and they are all doing better. That's as true of a comparison as you can have to adjust for cultural and travel differences.

You are ignoring it, douchebag. You're ignoring all the nearby countries that have higher death rates.

"nearby' - somewhere in Europe, with different culture, population density and travel patterns.

As was previously stated, all three were pretty much on par. Then there was a spike.

Sweden has been "level" for a long time and has way underperformed as per projections.

They have more people living in cities even on a population adjusted basis.

 

[AntonToo]

It's getting harder and harder for the shutdown Nazis to justify continuing this farce:

Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.​

Sweden did not have a lockdown.​

​

Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.​

​

The actual number was 2,769.​

​

The Telegraph just reported:​

​

How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown​

​

Denmark locked down hard and early, shutting schools, borders, cafés, restaurants and shops. Sweden has taken a light-touch approach, shutting none of these things, and instead relying on the public’s “common sense behaviour”.​

​

If the R number is 1, it means that each person infected goes on to infect an average of one other person during the course of their illness. So long as a country keeps R below one, the number of infections will steadily decrease until the pandemic comes to an end.​

​

The Public Health Institute of Sweden estimated that Sweden’s R number has fallen from 1.4 at the start of April to 0.85 at the end of April.​

​

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency, meanwhile, estimated that Denmark’s had fallen from about 1 at the start of April to about 0.9 at the end of April.​

​

Sweden’s numbers are a standing rebuke to the Imperial College study that has done so much to influence UK policy. Researchers at the university predicted that Sweden’s approach would leave it with an R of above 3, leading to 40,000 coronavirus deaths by May 1. Sweden’s current death tally is just 2,769.​

​

Uno Wennergren, a mathematician and pandemic modeller at Linköping University, suspects Sweden’s low number in part comes from growing levels of immunity in Stockholm, where the outbreak has so far been concentrated, and in part from social distancing.​

​

“It looks like its a combination of herd immunity effect and lower infectability. Both seem to be acting simultaneously,” he said.​

​

Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell now estimates that as many as a quarter of people in Stockholm might already be immune. The capital might have herd immunity within weeks, he argues.​

​

You're not citing the most important figure. DEATHS per million. Sweden having TWENTY PERCENT MORE FATALITIES PER MILLION than the United States is a good thing?

You do realize that 280 deaths per million is .28% of the population. That is just about 1/4 of a percent and these are countries in the top 10 in the world. The overwhelming majority of countries are lower than this. The world-wide deaths from COVID is 0.03%(255,000 out of 8,000,000,000).

And what is your point.

Sweden openly admits they made some big mistakes early on. 1 in 3 deaths are from nursing homes.

But they are are on the downward....

View attachment 332689

Sweden And Denmark Took Very Different Approaches To Fighting The Coronavirus. The Data Shows Many More People Are Dying In Sweden.

Sweden has seen a 34.5% increase in excess deaths this month compared to a 6.5% rise in Denmark.

www.buzzfeed.com

Questions?

Not really.

If you think it makes a point, you are full of shit.

Comparing similar, directly neighboring countries makes a point to anyone not-stupid.

It's a weasel that allows you to ignore the rest of the data that you find inconvenient.

I'm not ignoring it - you look at Sweeden's direct neighbors and they are all doing better. That's as true of a comparison as you can have to adjust for cultural and travel differences.

You are ignoring it, douchebag. You're ignoring all the nearby countries that have higher death rates.

"nearby' - somewhere in Europe, with different culture, population density and travel patterns.

Oh, so you have some quantification for culture, density and travel patterns.

Please share them.

Just saying they exist is bullshit.

I'm comparing directly bordering countries to Sweeden, which better adjusts for those factors.

 

[bripat9643]

It's getting harder and harder for the shutdown Nazis to justify continuing this farce:

Sweden did not have a lockdown. Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1. The actual number was 2,769.​

Sweden did not have a lockdown.​

​

Experts predicted that it would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.​

​

The actual number was 2,769.​

​

The Telegraph just reported:​

​

How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown​

​

Denmark locked down hard and early, shutting schools, borders, cafés, restaurants and shops. Sweden has taken a light-touch approach, shutting none of these things, and instead relying on the public’s “common sense behaviour”.​

​

If the R number is 1, it means that each person infected goes on to infect an average of one other person during the course of their illness. So long as a country keeps R below one, the number of infections will steadily decrease until the pandemic comes to an end.​

​

The Public Health Institute of Sweden estimated that Sweden’s R number has fallen from 1.4 at the start of April to 0.85 at the end of April.​

​

Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency, meanwhile, estimated that Denmark’s had fallen from about 1 at the start of April to about 0.9 at the end of April.​

​

Sweden’s numbers are a standing rebuke to the Imperial College study that has done so much to influence UK policy. Researchers at the university predicted that Sweden’s approach would leave it with an R of above 3, leading to 40,000 coronavirus deaths by May 1. Sweden’s current death tally is just 2,769.​

​

Uno Wennergren, a mathematician and pandemic modeller at Linköping University, suspects Sweden’s low number in part comes from growing levels of immunity in Stockholm, where the outbreak has so far been concentrated, and in part from social distancing.​

​

“It looks like its a combination of herd immunity effect and lower infectability. Both seem to be acting simultaneously,” he said.​

​

Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell now estimates that as many as a quarter of people in Stockholm might already be immune. The capital might have herd immunity within weeks, he argues.​

​

You're not citing the most important figure. DEATHS per million. Sweden having TWENTY PERCENT MORE FATALITIES PER MILLION than the United States is a good thing?

You do realize that 280 deaths per million is .28% of the population. That is just about 1/4 of a percent and these are countries in the top 10 in the world. The overwhelming majority of countries are lower than this. The world-wide deaths from COVID is 0.03%(255,000 out of 8,000,000,000).

And what is your point.

Sweden openly admits they made some big mistakes early on. 1 in 3 deaths are from nursing homes.

But they are are on the downward....

View attachment 332689

Sweden And Denmark Took Very Different Approaches To Fighting The Coronavirus. The Data Shows Many More People Are Dying In Sweden.

Sweden has seen a 34.5% increase in excess deaths this month compared to a 6.5% rise in Denmark.

www.buzzfeed.com

Questions?

Not really.

If you think it makes a point, you are full of shit.

Comparing similar, directly neighboring countries makes a point to anyone not-stupid.

It's a weasel that allows you to ignore the rest of the data that you find inconvenient.

I'm not ignoring it - you look at Sweeden's direct neighbors and they are all doing better. That's as true of a comparison as you can have to adjust for cultural and travel differences.

You're ignoring all the countries that are doing worse. What you actually said is "if we only look at the countries that are doing better, then the countries that implemented a shutdown are doing better than Sweden." That's typical leftwing logic.