Surprisingly, I agree with trump's spokesman.

[berg80]

Again, you are more upset that Hillary's cheating was exposed as opposed to her cheating.

What cheating?

 

[pknopp]

Seems like Hillary and Trump did almost exactly the same thing except she used a British agent while Trump tried to use a Russian agent. Were they both cheaters?

Trump cheats at everything he touches. What kind of silly question is this?

 

[surada]

Clinton was hacked? You gotta be kidding. The media loved and protected the dude. Didn't they tell us that his personal life was nobody's business but his own after it was revealed that he molested an intern barely older than his daughter? Where were the "investigative reporters" during the sex, drugs and rock&roll Clinton years? Trump doesn't have to be hacked. The left has Media Matters that analyzes and spins every word he ever utters and there are never positive Trump stories in the MSM.

Wake up.

Trump publicly called for Russia to hack Hillary's emails in 2016..

Monica Lewinsky was smitten with Bill Clinton.

 

[g5000]

Media reaction to Trump campaign email leak starkly different from 2016, when Clinton was hacked​

Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung reminded the press of their duty to fairness and democracy. “Any media or news outlet reprinting documents or internal communications are doing the bidding of America’s enemies and doing exactly what they want.”

Media reaction to Trump campaign email leak starkly different from 2016, when Clinton was hacked

When emails from Hillary Clinton's campaign were leaked in 2016, the press covered the issue breathlessly. But when Donald Trump's campaign was hacked and emails leaked to the press, the media held back. Why?

www.latimes.com

Hypocrisy continues to be a feature of trumpery.

But Trump sang a different tune in July 2016, when during a news conference the presidential hopeful directly appealed to Russia to hack Clinton’s emails.

The entity Cheung's reference to doing the bidding of America’s enemies was of course Russia. Back then trump was soliciting Putin's help with the campaign. Soliciting and welcoming the help of one of America's enemies. Arguably an act of treachery if not treason for which he paid no political price. Such is the nature of the unconditional devotion of The Following.

As the article points out, there's another form of hypocrisy going on here. The media's. For all the whining complaints about media bias from Repubs, the overly sensationalized coverage of the Wikileaks document dumps unquestionably hurt Clinton's chances for election.

Here's How Many Bernie Sanders Supporters Ultimately Voted For Trump​

Here's How Many Bernie Sanders Supporters Ultimately Voted For Trump

Yes, Bernie Sanders supporters who voted for President Trump could have cost Hillary Clinton the election. But then, about the same share of Republican primary voters defected to Clinton.

www.npr.org

As difficult if not impossible as it is to quantify the magnitude of the affect Russia's activities had in support of trump's election this is one concrete way to do so.

"Iran, if you are listening..."

 

[berg80]

Again, though, there is ZERO evidence he got it from Russia.

That is factually incorrect.

 

[whitehall]

WAPO reporters brought down the Nixon administration with unverified salacious "reports" from an unidentified anonymous "informant". Nixon resigned as expected and the informant wasn't identified until he was freaking dead. That seems like fair and impartial journalism to the left but no democrat administration would put up with such a thing. The system is fixed so that the information sources favor democrats and attack republicans. Lefties have ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, Hollywood and the mulch media but yet they continually whine about Fox.

 

[berg80]

Seems like Hillary and Trump did almost exactly the same thing except she used a British agent while Trump tried to use a Russian agent. Were they both cheaters?

Here's the difference. Marc Elias, on behalf of the Clinton campaign, hired Fusion GPS to do oppo research on trump. Neither Elias, or Clinton, or anyone involved in her campaign was aware of Steele being the investigator or his methods. His methods including contacts with Russians he had made while he was working for British intel.

Donnie J, according to publicly available emails, was approached by an intermediary clearly stating the dirt on Clinton was being made available to trump by the Russian government. Accepting it being an illegal act.

 

[j-mac]

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader. It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on...

www.usmessageboard.com

The reason folks like Miles Taylor were chosen to serve in the admin is because they were Repubs. What they saw went beyond partisan politics. They expressed their concern for the sake of the nation because "we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic."
What they observed was trump's first duty being to himself.

Oh yes, low prices, lower taxation, cheap gas, and no involvement in new wars. Such a threat, GTFOH….

 

[j-mac]

Why do you find it necessary to accuse Repubs in good standing of being corrupted just because they chose to expose trump's lack of fitness for the office of POTUS?

That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

I believe Trump loves this country, and wants to preserve what made this country great. You OTOH, do not. So instead of thinking for yourself only confirm your own bias by immersing yourself in information that you agree with.

 

[berg80]

Oh yes, low prices, lower taxation, cheap gas, and no involvement in new wars. Such a threat, GTFOH….

Perhaps you have shoved his attempt at ending the constitutional order by stealing the election down the memory hole.

 

[berg80]

A reporters is supposed to report on what he has been gave. Again, though, there is ZERO evidence he got it from Russia. He says he didn't. I have no reason to doubt him.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. intelligence agencies obtained what they considered to be conclusive evidence after the November election that Russia provided hacked material from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks through a third party, three U.S. officials said on Wednesday.
U.S. officials had concluded months earlier that Russian intelligence agencies had directed the hacking, but had been less certain that they could prove Russia also had controlled the release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/u-s-obtained-evidence-after-election-that-russia-leaked-emails-officials-idUSKBN14P04P/

I can't help wondering if you, like trump, take Putin's word about Russian interference in our elections?

 

[j-mac]

Perhaps you have shoved his attempt at ending the constitutional order by stealing the election down the memory hole.

Because that never happened…..#you’re triggered

 

[berg80]

I believe Trump loves this country

Then why is he tearing it down? Why does he sow division? Why does he sow doubt in the integrity of elections? Why does he constantly attack our bedrock institutions? Why did he plot to steal the election he lost in contradiction of the desire of a majority of voting Americans?

 

[berg80]

Because that never happened…..#you’re triggered

Which part of the demonstrable evidence of the plot do you deny? His call to GA election officials? The Eastman memo? The Big Lie?

 

[pknopp]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. intelligence agencies obtained what they considered to be conclusive evidence after the November election that Russia provided hacked material from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks through a third party, three U.S. officials said on Wednesday.
U.S. officials had concluded months earlier that Russian intelligence agencies had directed the hacking, but had been less certain that they could prove Russia also had controlled the release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/u-s-obtained-evidence-after-election-that-russia-leaked-emails-officials-idUSKBN14P04P/

I can't help wondering if you, like trump, take Putin's word about Russian interference in our elections?

I don't take Russia's word on anything. Don't cheat and there is no concern over it being exposed.

 

[j-mac]

Then why is he tearing it down? Why does he sow division? Why does he sow doubt in the integrity of elections? Why does he constantly attack our bedrock institutions? Why did he plot to steal the election he lost in contradiction of the desire of a majority of voting Americans?

He did none of that…Look, you people have been on a 9 year temper tantrum, and have been fed total lies by your own party and your media.

But, you’re asking the question, so there may be hope.

 

[j-mac]

Which part of the demonstrable evidence of the plot do you deny? His call to GA election officials? The Eastman memo? The Big Lie?

I’m not interested in the fiction you’ve been fed. It’s been laid out for you for years now. You’ve laid out that you’ve all but lost the ability to critically evaluate your own sources, just like they want you to.

 

[berg80]

I don't take Russia's word on anything. Don't cheat and there is no concern over it being exposed.

I'll take that as an acknowledgement you are wrong. It was Russian GRU agents who supplied Assange with the material hacked from the DNC and Podesta. Much to trump's glee.

 

[pknopp]

I'll take that as an acknowledgement you are wrong. It was Russian GRU agents who supplied Assange with the material hacked from the DNC and Podesta. Much to trump's glee.

Believe what you wish. I believe Assange.

You also believe that exposing the cheating was worse than the cheating so..................

 

[berg80]

I’m not interested in the fiction you’ve been fed. It’s been laid out for you for years now. You’ve laid out that you’ve all but lost the ability to critically evaluate your own sources, just like they want you to.

Just so we are clear, are you saying this document, written by John Eastman, doesn't exist?

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2021/images/09/20/eastman.memo.pdf

What about this document?

Washington — A newly revealed memo authored by a Trump-allied attorney laid out a sweeping strategy for organizing Trump supporters to serve as fake electors in the wake of the 2020 election, shining new light on the origins of an alleged scheme that is central to the most recent indictment of former President Donald Trump.

The six-page memo dated Dec. 6, 2020, was authored by attorney Kenneth Chesebro and circulated among Trump campaign lawyers and associates, two people familiar with the matter tell CBS News. The New York Times obtained and published the memo for the first time on Tuesday.

The document, signed by "K.C.," was one of a series of memos crafted by Chesebro and John Eastman, a conservative attorney, that formed the proposed legal basis for the ultimately unsuccessful fake elector scheme. The indictment alleges the plan "evolved over time from a legal strategy to preserve the Defendant's rights to a corrupt plan to subvert the federal government function by stopping Biden electors' votes from being counted and certified."

Newly unveiled memo cited in Trump indictment detailed false electors scheme

A newly revealed memo authored by a Trump-allied attorney laid out a strategy for organizing fake electors in the wake of the 2020 election.

www.cbsnews.com

I'm trying to identify exactly what part of the evidence of trump's plot to steal the election you are in denial of.