'Supreme Court Sharply Divided Over Trump DACA Repeal' - WHY?

[Harpy Eagle]

"At issue is the fate of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which grants deferral from deportation to nearly 700,000 undocumented young adult immigrants."

WHY is the fact that these illegals were dragged as children into the US illegally and have been here for years 'at issue'...WHY does it matter?

1. Sucks to be them. Blame their parents.

2. Living here illegally for decades does not change their illegal status. At any point they could have made an effort to adhere to existing US Immigration law.

3. Obama's own admitted Un-Constitutional act of personally imposing 'DACA' does not change their legal status because DACA is Un-Constitutional / is not LAW.

The USSC is responsible for enforcing / upholding the Constitution / Constitutional Law, NOT to attempt to infuse 'social justice' into the Constitution, NOT reward illegals in this country - illegals whose education / healthcare / etc... legal American citizens were forced to pay for...

'Empathy', what is 'fair' or not, has NOTHING to do with the LIBERAL 'NON-LEGAL' / 'NON-Constitutional' concern for how Illegals will 'FEEL' or what 'hardships' they may face if US Immigration Law was ACTUALLY enforced for a change.

I cannot imagine even a liberal of conscience (if there are any left) ruling against the White House on this.

Do not be surprised if Gorsuch does and maybe even Kav

The attorney for the plaintiffs admitted Trump has the authority to end the program, in a response to a question from Kavanaugh.

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it is still early in the game...

 

[easyt65]

Because entrapment is illegal.

What does 'entrapment' have to do with Obama admitting he did not have the Constitutional authority to affect exiting US Immigration law...then going ahead and doing it anyway...with the fact that EOs are NOW laws passed by Congress, have NEVER been permanent, and have been wiped from the books by follow-on Presidents?

 

[OKTexas]

President Obama ADMITTED he did not have the Constitutional authority to alter / amend / change existing US Immigration Law

Then it's a good thing Obama did not alter, amend, or change existing US immigration law.

Have you ever even bothered to read Obama's EO?


Didn't think so.

Hint: It's not an EO.

Whether it was an EO or not is irrelevant, he authorized work permits for people that were not eligible for them by law. End of story.

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The story is whether Trump lets them stay. And if he does, where did he get the power.

He can let them stay by not making them a priority, he can't legally extend work permits without congressional action.

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[pknopp]

The court will allow it to end. That will solve absolutely nothing

It completely destroys the Founding Fathers' Separation of Powers, imposes the precedent / ruling that SOME - not all - EOs / such personal and admitted Un-Constitutional 'Edicts' should be declared 'permanent', forcing future Presidents / Americans to abide by illegal 'NON-Laws' imposed on them based on that President's IDEOLOGICAL position/agenda, that rises above what is Constitutional / Legal.

I don't disagree but it doesn't address my point that it will solve nothing. It's not the courts place to solve these issues but the issue goes beyond a court ruling.

 

[OKTexas]

What do you even participate in the thread? Should you not be hosting your "open borders for USA" thread?

You can't handle the truth, can you.

It's a fact Trump is exercising prosecutorial discretion with the Dreamers. Just. Like. Obama.

I wonder why you aren't whining about that.

"It's Okay When Trump Does It!"™

Stop it with that bullshit...you sound like a fool.
Trump is not excercising “prosecutorial discretion” with the DACA pukes as they are still protected under the Kenyans directive.

Nope.

September 2017: Trump Ends DACA, Calls On Congress To Act

The Trump administration Tuesday formally announced it will end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — also called DACA — putting an expiration date on the legal protections granted to roughly 800,000 people known as "DREAMers," who entered the country illegally as children.

Appeals Court Stops Trump From Immediately Ending DACA

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(Talking Points Memo?)

They're trying to overrule the SC? Which hasn't even made a deliberation yet?

You leftists are f'n insane.

The story is if the USSC is going to reject the Founding Fathers' Separation of Powers, creating a defined boundary between the 3 branches of govt and defining what power each has, and will allow (Democrat) Presidents to by-pass Congress to create and impose their own laws based on their own personal ideological beliefs / agendas. .

QFP

Where did the link mention SCOTUS, you not very fucking smart, are ya?

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[Ropey]

You can't handle the truth, can you.

It's a fact Trump is exercising prosecutorial discretion with the Dreamers. Just. Like. Obama.

I wonder why you aren't whining about that.

"It's Okay When Trump Does It!"™

Stop it with that bullshit...you sound like a fool.
Trump is not excercising “prosecutorial discretion” with the DACA pukes as they are still protected under the Kenyans directive.

Nope.

September 2017: Trump Ends DACA, Calls On Congress To Act

The Trump administration Tuesday formally announced it will end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — also called DACA — putting an expiration date on the legal protections granted to roughly 800,000 people known as "DREAMers," who entered the country illegally as children.

Appeals Court Stops Trump From Immediately Ending DACA

.

(Talking Points Memo?)

They're trying to overrule the SC? Which hasn't even made a deliberation yet?

You leftists are f'n insane.

The story is if the USSC is going to reject the Founding Fathers' Separation of Powers, creating a defined boundary between the 3 branches of govt and defining what power each has, and will allow (Democrat) Presidents to by-pass Congress to create and impose their own laws based on their own personal ideological beliefs / agendas. .

QFP

Where did the link mention SCOTUS, you not very fucking smart, are ya?

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It's in front of SCOTUS sparky.

 

[OKTexas]

"At issue is the fate of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which grants deferral from deportation to nearly 700,000 undocumented young adult immigrants."

WHY is the fact that these illegals were dragged as children into the US illegally and have been here for years 'at issue'...WHY does it matter?

1. Sucks to be them. Blame their parents.

2. Living here illegally for decades does not change their illegal status. At any point they could have made an effort to adhere to existing US Immigration law.

3. Obama's own admitted Un-Constitutional act of personally imposing 'DACA' does not change their legal status because DACA is Un-Constitutional / is not LAW.

The USSC is responsible for enforcing / upholding the Constitution / Constitutional Law, NOT to attempt to infuse 'social justice' into the Constitution, NOT reward illegals in this country - illegals whose education / healthcare / etc... legal American citizens were forced to pay for...

'Empathy', what is 'fair' or not, has NOTHING to do with the LIBERAL 'NON-LEGAL' / 'NON-Constitutional' concern for how Illegals will 'FEEL' or what 'hardships' they may face if US Immigration Law was ACTUALLY enforced for a change.

I cannot imagine even a liberal of conscience (if there are any left) ruling against the White House on this.

Do not be surprised if Gorsuch does and maybe even Kav

The attorney for the plaintiffs admitted Trump has the authority to end the program, in a response to a question from Kavanaugh.

.

it is still early in the game...

No, that was game OVER. The dumbass admitted he doesn't have a case.

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[OKTexas]

Stop it with that bullshit...you sound like a fool.
Trump is not excercising “prosecutorial discretion” with the DACA pukes as they are still protected under the Kenyans directive.

Nope.

September 2017: Trump Ends DACA, Calls On Congress To Act

The Trump administration Tuesday formally announced it will end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — also called DACA — putting an expiration date on the legal protections granted to roughly 800,000 people known as "DREAMers," who entered the country illegally as children.

Appeals Court Stops Trump From Immediately Ending DACA

.

(Talking Points Memo?)

They're trying to overrule the SC? Which hasn't even made a deliberation yet?

You leftists are f'n insane.

The story is if the USSC is going to reject the Founding Fathers' Separation of Powers, creating a defined boundary between the 3 branches of govt and defining what power each has, and will allow (Democrat) Presidents to by-pass Congress to create and impose their own laws based on their own personal ideological beliefs / agendas. .

QFP

Where did the link mention SCOTUS, you not very fucking smart, are ya?

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It's in front of SCOTUS sparky.

And, if you can't follow the conversation in a string, perhaps you should not reply at all. But don't be surprised if this isn't a 9-0 decision in favor of the administration.

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[bendog]

But but but … Trump says if the SupCt says he can deport them, he'll make a deal with the dems for the dreamers to stay …..

but but but what about the gop making a law?


Donald J. Trump

✔ @realDonaldTrump




Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!


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5:45 AM - Nov 12, 2019

 

[Ropey]

But but but … Trump says if the SupCt says he can deport them, he'll make a deal with the dems for the dreamers to stay …..

but but but what about the gop making a law?


Donald J. Trump

✔ @realDonaldTrump




Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!


58.8K
5:45 AM - Nov 12, 2019

A deal will be made but the Dems won't accept it. Much like what's going on with China, China, China.

Nope.

September 2017: Trump Ends DACA, Calls On Congress To Act

The Trump administration Tuesday formally announced it will end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — also called DACA — putting an expiration date on the legal protections granted to roughly 800,000 people known as "DREAMers," who entered the country illegally as children.

Appeals Court Stops Trump From Immediately Ending DACA

.

(Talking Points Memo?)

They're trying to overrule the SC? Which hasn't even made a deliberation yet?

You leftists are f'n insane.

The story is if the USSC is going to reject the Founding Fathers' Separation of Powers, creating a defined boundary between the 3 branches of govt and defining what power each has, and will allow (Democrat) Presidents to by-pass Congress to create and impose their own laws based on their own personal ideological beliefs / agendas. .

QFP

Where did the link mention SCOTUS, you not very fucking smart, are ya?

.

It's in front of SCOTUS sparky.

And, if you can't follow the conversation in a string, perhaps you should not reply at all. But don't be surprised if this isn't a 9-0 decision in favor of the administration.

.

Don't be surprised if the rook tries to move like a queen.

A woodpusher has his hand on it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

"At issue is the fate of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which grants deferral from deportation to nearly 700,000 undocumented young adult immigrants."

WHY is the fact that these illegals were dragged as children into the US illegally and have been here for years 'at issue'...WHY does it matter?

1. Sucks to be them. Blame their parents.

2. Living here illegally for decades does not change their illegal status. At any point they could have made an effort to adhere to existing US Immigration law.

3. Obama's own admitted Un-Constitutional act of personally imposing 'DACA' does not change their legal status because DACA is Un-Constitutional / is not LAW.

The USSC is responsible for enforcing / upholding the Constitution / Constitutional Law, NOT to attempt to infuse 'social justice' into the Constitution, NOT reward illegals in this country - illegals whose education / healthcare / etc... legal American citizens were forced to pay for...

'Empathy', what is 'fair' or not, has NOTHING to do with the LIBERAL 'NON-LEGAL' / 'NON-Constitutional' concern for how Illegals will 'FEEL' or what 'hardships' they may face if US Immigration Law was ACTUALLY enforced for a change.

I cannot imagine even a liberal of conscience (if there are any left) ruling against the White House on this.

Do not be surprised if Gorsuch does and maybe even Kav

The attorney for the plaintiffs admitted Trump has the authority to end the program, in a response to a question from Kavanaugh.

.

it is still early in the game...

No, that was game OVER. The dumbass admitted he doesn't have a case.

.

whatever helps you sleep at night

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope.

September 2017: Trump Ends DACA, Calls On Congress To Act

The Trump administration Tuesday formally announced it will end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — also called DACA — putting an expiration date on the legal protections granted to roughly 800,000 people known as "DREAMers," who entered the country illegally as children.

Appeals Court Stops Trump From Immediately Ending DACA

.

(Talking Points Memo?)

They're trying to overrule the SC? Which hasn't even made a deliberation yet?

You leftists are f'n insane.

The story is if the USSC is going to reject the Founding Fathers' Separation of Powers, creating a defined boundary between the 3 branches of govt and defining what power each has, and will allow (Democrat) Presidents to by-pass Congress to create and impose their own laws based on their own personal ideological beliefs / agendas. .

QFP

Where did the link mention SCOTUS, you not very fucking smart, are ya?

.

It's in front of SCOTUS sparky.

And, if you can't follow the conversation in a string, perhaps you should not reply at all. But don't be surprised if this isn't a 9-0 decision in favor of the administration.

.

you willing to wager on that?

 

[pknopp]

But but but … Trump says if the SupCt says he can deport them, he'll make a deal with the dems for the dreamers to stay …..

but but but what about the gop making a law?


Donald J. Trump

✔ @realDonaldTrump




Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!


58.8K
5:45 AM - Nov 12, 2019

Why can't he just do that now?

 

[airplanemechanic]

It's actually illegal to do what the courts did to Trump, in blocking him revoking DACA.

DACA is simply an executive order issued by Obama. Executive orders only live as long as the president who issued them is in office. So DACA should have died the day he left office but it didn't. Yet when Trump issued his on EO ending DACA, all of a sudden a court steps in and stops him. That's illegal. You can't stop an EO that ends an old EO by another president.

This is not about sympathy for dreamers. This is about our nations laws. And DACA was illegal on its face, because no president can issue an EO telling courts to ignore written law. Obama doesn't write law, congress does. All Trump did was end an old EO which he really didn't even need to. But now that it's blocked its in the SCOTUS's hands. This is a no brainer. It should be 9-0 to end DACA.

 

[bendog]

But but but … Trump says if the SupCt says he can deport them, he'll make a deal with the dems for the dreamers to stay …..

but but but what about the gop making a law?


Donald J. Trump

✔ @realDonaldTrump




Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!


58.8K
5:45 AM - Nov 12, 2019

Why can't he just do that now?

aH HA! THAT'S EVEN ANN COULTER'S QUESTION. LOL

It's high time for Trump to dump Stephen Miller

 

[pknopp]

But but but … Trump says if the SupCt says he can deport them, he'll make a deal with the dems for the dreamers to stay …..

but but but what about the gop making a law?


Donald J. Trump

✔ @realDonaldTrump




Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!


58.8K
5:45 AM - Nov 12, 2019

Why can't he just do that now?

aH HA! THAT'S EVEN ANN COULTER'S QUESTION. LOL

It's high time for Trump to dump Stephen Miller

Sadly, the answer appears to be much simpler than that. A damning email dump from former Breitbart editor Katie McHugh points to Miller simply being a racist who hates immigrants.

As I've noted many times.......Trump can't dump the racists. While you can argue all day whether or not Trump is a racist he knows to win he has to appeal to the racists.

 

[Norman]

Have Americans pay for the crimes or Mexicans?

Or have Mexicans pay...

It's not easy to be on the right side when a question is this easy. Of course, morons who hate America still choose to be on the left side.

 

[OKTexas]

Appeals Court Stops Trump From Immediately Ending DACA

.

(Talking Points Memo?)

They're trying to overrule the SC? Which hasn't even made a deliberation yet?

You leftists are f'n insane.

The story is if the USSC is going to reject the Founding Fathers' Separation of Powers, creating a defined boundary between the 3 branches of govt and defining what power each has, and will allow (Democrat) Presidents to by-pass Congress to create and impose their own laws based on their own personal ideological beliefs / agendas. .

QFP

Where did the link mention SCOTUS, you not very fucking smart, are ya?

.

It's in front of SCOTUS sparky.

And, if you can't follow the conversation in a string, perhaps you should not reply at all. But don't be surprised if this isn't a 9-0 decision in favor of the administration.

.

you willing to wager on that?

With the commies on the court, hell no, but it's happened before. And if they only rule on the facts, that's what it should be.

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[OKTexas]

But but but … Trump says if the SupCt says he can deport them, he'll make a deal with the dems for the dreamers to stay …..

but but but what about the gop making a law?


Donald J. Trump

✔ @realDonaldTrump




Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!


58.8K
5:45 AM - Nov 12, 2019

Why can't he just do that now?

He offered, the commies declined.

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[pknopp]

But but but … Trump says if the SupCt says he can deport them, he'll make a deal with the dems for the dreamers to stay …..

but but but what about the gop making a law?


Donald J. Trump

✔ @realDonaldTrump




Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!


58.8K
5:45 AM - Nov 12, 2019

Why can't he just do that now?

He offered, the commies declined.

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Posted above. Unless you are calling those inside his administration commies. Racist would be more appropriate.