Supreme Court Rules 7-2 on Obamacare

[Claudette]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

You won't find lots of things in the Constitution.......but that is an extremely childish justification for not wanting more people to have health care....

But anyhoo....The first federal public healthcare law was signed in 1798....by one of those "Founders" you love to worship.....was he a socialist marxist??

You want health care then you buy it like everyone else does. You want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

You are subsidizing someone's healthcare regardless...or do you not know how insurance companies work??

Fact is.....you are subsidizing someone else's healthcare in a more ineffective way in the private market than you would be in the public market....


But aside from that point...do you not care that Republicans lie to you over and over again about their healthcare plans?? Did you already know Trump was being full of shit about promising everyone affordable healthcare with his non-existent plan?? Was that one of those lies you didn't mind because your cult leader said it?

Well since I'm not a Rep I really don't care what they say.

As for me. I'm on Medicare. Which I've paid for my whole working life. If you want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

 

[Donald H]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

Provide for the common welfare....

There is no health care in the constitution. You think the FF even thought of health care??

Common welfare means everyone has the same chance to be all they can be. It has nothing to do with HC which you won't fine anywhere in the Constitution.

You could refer to it as the US Constipation, because that's its equivalent. Literally!

The ACA isn't government healthcare

By forcing people to purchase insurance, even if they don’t want to, it may as well be Government Healthcare.

It’s also a major step to acceptance of Government involvement in health care, which is immoral and unconstitutional.

It's neither.

People who won't purchace health care insurance are expecting a free ride on other people's dime.

How's that for a conservative agenda? You fkng American bozos just refuse to 'get it'!

 

[otto105]

The ACA isn't government healthcare

By forcing people to purchase insurance, even if they don’t want to, it may as well be Government Healthcare.

It’s also a major step to acceptance of Government involvement in health care, which is immoral and unconstitutional.

You mean that conservative idea of funding the healthcare subsidies??

Yea, I thought that was a shitty idea too....but Obama still went with the shitty conservative idea than what we progressives wanted....

Sadly, nobody really wants your shittier idea of a health care solution either....if they did, you wouldn't be whining about it so much

Correct, the idea of healthcare exchanges was a Heritage Foundation idea from the 1970's. Before the org went all conservative stupid.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

You won't find lots of things in the Constitution.......but that is an extremely childish justification for not wanting more people to have health care....

But anyhoo....The first federal public healthcare law was signed in 1798....by one of those "Founders" you love to worship.....was he a socialist marxist??

You want health care then you buy it like everyone else does. You want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

You are subsidizing someone's healthcare regardless...or do you not know how insurance companies work??

Fact is.....you are subsidizing someone else's healthcare in a more ineffective way in the private market than you would be in the public market....


But aside from that point...do you not care that Republicans lie to you over and over again about their healthcare plans?? Did you already know Trump was being full of shit about promising everyone affordable healthcare with his non-existent plan?? Was that one of those lies you didn't mind because your cult leader said it?

Well since I'm not a Rep I really don't care what they say.

As for me. I'm on Medicare. Which I've paid for my whole working life. If you want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

Whenever a Trump sycophant opens a statement with "I'm not a Republican" -- I know its about to be followed by some bullshit.....

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

You won't find lots of things in the Constitution.......but that is an extremely childish justification for not wanting more people to have health care....

But anyhoo....The first federal public healthcare law was signed in 1798....by one of those "Founders" you love to worship.....was he a socialist marxist??

You want health care then you buy it like everyone else does. You want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

You are subsidizing someone's healthcare regardless...or do you not know how insurance companies work??

Fact is.....you are subsidizing someone else's healthcare in a more ineffective way in the private market than you would be in the public market....


But aside from that point...do you not care that Republicans lie to you over and over again about their healthcare plans?? Did you already know Trump was being full of shit about promising everyone affordable healthcare with his non-existent plan?? Was that one of those lies you didn't mind because your cult leader said it?

Well since I'm not a Rep I really don't care what they say.

As for me. I'm on Medicare. Which I've paid for my whole working life. If you want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

That is how Medicare works...that is how taxes work.....

Do you think that you alone paid for the Medicare benefits you receive now??

Adorable

 

[Donald H]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

You won't find lots of things in the Constitution.......but that is an extremely childish justification for not wanting more people to have health care....

But anyhoo....The first federal public healthcare law was signed in 1798....by one of those "Founders" you love to worship.....was he a socialist marxist??

You want health care then you buy it like everyone else does. You want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

You are subsidizing someone's healthcare regardless...or do you not know how insurance companies work??

Fact is.....you are subsidizing someone else's healthcare in a more ineffective way in the private market than you would be in the public market....


But aside from that point...do you not care that Republicans lie to you over and over again about their healthcare plans?? Did you already know Trump was being full of shit about promising everyone affordable healthcare with his non-existent plan?? Was that one of those lies you didn't mind because your cult leader said it?

Well since I'm not a Rep I really don't care what they say.

As for me. I'm on Medicare. Which I've paid for my whole working life. If you want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

If you're on Medicare then you have other people paying for your health care.

You people are so full of racism and hate for each other that you've lost track of reality in the real world. fkng losers!

 

[Anathema]

Sadly, nobody really wants your shittier idea of a health care solution either....if they did, you wouldn't be whining about it so much

I’m not whining about my healthcare at all. I have excellent “Cadillac” health insurance through my employer.

My concern is that the more people become accepting of extended Government interference in health services the more likely a “Medicare for All” system is and then I have no health care at all.

 

[Donald H]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

You won't find lots of things in the Constitution.......but that is an extremely childish justification for not wanting more people to have health care....

But anyhoo....The first federal public healthcare law was signed in 1798....by one of those "Founders" you love to worship.....was he a socialist marxist??

You want health care then you buy it like everyone else does. You want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

You are subsidizing someone's healthcare regardless...or do you not know how insurance companies work??

Fact is.....you are subsidizing someone else's healthcare in a more ineffective way in the private market than you would be in the public market....


But aside from that point...do you not care that Republicans lie to you over and over again about their healthcare plans?? Did you already know Trump was being full of shit about promising everyone affordable healthcare with his non-existent plan?? Was that one of those lies you didn't mind because your cult leader said it?

Well since I'm not a Rep I really don't care what they say.

As for me. I'm on Medicare. Which I've paid for my whole working life. If you want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

That is how Medicare works...that is how taxes work.....

Do you think that you alone paid for the Medicare benefits you receive now??

Adorable

Good for you!
Sometimes it's just too obvious isn't it!
Trouble is, this board is full of hardnosed and fully indoctrinated fools for Trump. A really bad place for trying to drive home some sense.

 

[Anathema]

As for me. I'm on Medicare. Which I've paid for my whole working life. If you want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest

You’re on Medicare; that’s nice. What are folks like me who won’t take Medicare benefits supposed to do when we eventually retire and can’t get private insurance?

 

[Donald H]

Sadly, nobody really wants your shittier idea of a health care solution either....if they did, you wouldn't be whining about it so much

I’m not whining about my healthcare at all. I have excellent “Cadillac” health insurance through my employer.

My concern is that the more people become accepting of extended Government interference in health services the more likely a “Medicare for All” system is and then I have no health care at all.

Your fellow Americans want the same too. So eventually their ambitions will take down yours.

You fail to understand that everybody in your country can have what you enjoy. But never mind, they're not as white as you and so they don't deserve it.

 

[Harry Dresden]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

That's truly a shame. The Court is a joke. I just hope Manchin keeps his finger in the dam. Otherwise, we're all fucked.

I think it's a very good thing that we still have Obamacare.

In fact, I think we should do away with insurance companies for health care.

Most people in America can't stand insurance companies controlling what health care they can have and denying to pay medical bills.

We have some people who can have health care without being bankrupted or have insurance premiums that aren't astronomical. It's not fair that some people have proper insurance that is affordable and others don't here in the United States.

Our health care system is a total mess.

Most people in America can't stand insurance companies controlling what health care they can have and denying to pay medical bills.

and you think Medicare is any different?...

Anybody holding up signs like this demanding any healthcare plan Republicans proposed??View attachment 502413

For Medicare to be just like private insurance companies -- there sure seems to be a lot of historically popular bipartisan support for it over the last 60 or so years....

they dont cover everything.....so they also tell you what health care you can have....

 

[dblack]

You've managed to put politicians in charge of our health care. Congrats.

As one who has battled the Insurance Companies before. And will again. It is honestly not a concern of mine. Frankly the longer I spend trying to get the insurance companies to care for my wife as they are supposed to, the better Single Payer sounds.

As long as you don't mind every single election being a referendum on whether grandma lives or dies.

 

[dblack]

You can enact the legislation. The Supreme Court can uphold it. However, you can NEVER make me use Government Healthcare.

I”LL DIE FIRST!!!!

The ACA isn't government healthcare.

It's not even government health insurance. It's just government colluding with insurance companies to herd consumers.

 

[dblack]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

That's truly a shame. The Court is a joke. I just hope Manchin keeps his finger in the dam. Otherwise, we're all fucked.

Yeah, providing much needed healthcare is a travesty....

ACA doesn't provide shit, much less "much needed healthcare". It's a corporatist scheme to extend a failed business model.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

The PPACA is already in the private sector.

Correct.

Private companies provide the insurance.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

That's truly a shame. The Court is a joke. I just hope Manchin keeps his finger in the dam. Otherwise, we're all fucked.

That's truly a shame. The Court is a joke. I just hope Manchin keeps his finger in the dam. Otherwise, we're all fucked.

You were fucked the moment you decided to stand against democracy and reality.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

This is a sad day for America........

Not just because 2 of the newest conservative appointments betrayed America and Jesus....

But because now we are going to have to keep hearing Republican candidates campaign on repealing and replacing Obamacare for 10 more years.........

If a bozo like Obama was able to get a healthcare plan put in place during his first couple of years....why can't republicans do it in over 10 plus years??

Those Dems are pretty crafty...

This is a sad day for America........

Not just because 2 of the newest conservative appointments betrayed America and Jesus....

 

[ElmerMudd]

I understand the mindset that holds Americans back from demanding better. And yes, some of you still, after many years of torture, still think that for profit health care is going to come to the rescue

Do you undercut? I don’t think you do. I don’t think that you truly understand how many of us do not want anything from the Government; whether we’ve paid for it or not.

It’s not that we somehow believe the insure companies have our best interests at heart. We know they don’t. We’d just rather take the chance of getting care for our bodies there than doing harm to our Souls by dealing with the Government.

If you want nothing from the government then only drive on your roads, go to your schools, have your own military, have your own fire fighters, have your own police, if you cannot pay for health care, die.

 

[dblack]

I understand the mindset that holds Americans back from demanding better. And yes, some of you still, after many years of torture, still think that for profit health care is going to come to the rescue

Do you undercut? I don’t think you do. I don’t think that you truly understand how many of us do not want anything from the Government; whether we’ve paid for it or not.

It’s not that we somehow believe the insure companies have our best interests at heart. We know they don’t. We’d just rather take the chance of getting care for our bodies there than doing harm to our Souls by dealing with the Government.

If you want nothing from the government then only drive on your roads, go to your schools, have your own military, have your own fire fighters, have your own police, if you cannot pay for health care, die.

If you don't want free markets, then please refrain from using a computer, produced by greedy capitalists, to spout your nonsense.

 

[FA_Q2]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

Simply divorcing healthcare from your job would have solved a hefty portion of the current problems we have with healthcare. Add tort reform and we would be better off than the garbage the ACA left us with.

Insurance companies have never been given a bigger gift than the ACA.