Supreme Court hands Biden victory, allows end to 'Remain in Mexico' policy

[beagle9]

What percentage of the 2 million were arrested for smuggling drugs? Your percentages aren`t telling us anything.

Maybe the numbers show many differing factors involved, but your refusal to consider certain factors when presented you, uhhh tells us everything we need to know about your non willingness to even consider the bad side of it all.

It doesn't take 100 illegals crossing to cause severe damage, because amongst that 100 might come ten who can cause enough damage that even the remainder of the hundred would then scratch their heads in awe and in fear of what the ten could do in their entire illegal group's name. On the flip side we can't detect the ten because they were hidden amongst the one hundred.

 

[pknopp]

Maybe the numbers show many differing factors involved, but your refusal to consider certain factors when presented you, uhhh tells us everything we need to know about your non willingness to even consider the bad side of it all.

It doesn't take 100 illegals crossing to cause severe damage, because amongst that 100 might come ten who can cause enough damage that even the remainder of the hundred would then scratch their heads in awe and in fear of what the ten could do in their entire illegal group's name. On the flip side we can't detect the ten because they were hidden amongst the one hundred.

Come down hard on those offering jobs and the other 90 don't even try to come.

 

[beagle9]

Supreme Court hands Biden victory, allows end to 'Remain in Mexico' policy​

This was actually not a win for Biden. All this ruling did was establish what we already knew. And that is, a president is granted the authority to establish US foreign policy.

This actually hurts Biden because he no longer can blame Trump for the mess he has created on the southern border. It’s all on him now.

Interesting take..

 

[beagle9]

Come down hard on those offering jobs and the other 90 don't even try to come.

My thing is that I'm not against people wanting to come here and work, but it's the usage of those migrants by American businesses that's the problem...... American businesses compete them with American labor in hopes to destroy American labor in favor of working the migrants so cheap, that it becomes the exploitation of a workforce by destroying the competing workforce in favor of the exploited one.

This was taking place big time during the 90s all the way up to around 2008 when the bubble popped.

The betrayal of American labor has led to the destruction of millions of young Americans live's, but it's been nicely swept under the rug over time.

Problem now is that it's coming back into full swing under the Obiden administration. Sad day for America again.

 

[Care4all]

Maybe the numbers show many differing factors involved, but your refusal to consider certain factors when presented you, uhhh tells us everything we need to know about your non willingness to even consider the bad side of it all.

It doesn't take 100 illegals crossing to cause severe damage, because amongst that 100 might come ten who can cause enough damage that even the remainder of the hundred would then scratch their heads in awe and in fear of what the ten could do in their entire illegal group's name. On the flip side we can't detect the ten because they were hidden amongst the one hundred.

With all of that being said, staffing the border with people to process those seeking refuge, will ease the illegal border crossings of the desperate, and ease up border patrols to hunt down and stop the drug and sex traffickers trying to sneak thru with them.

And I've voiced for years what should go hand in hand with crossing thru a border entrance staffed to the hilt..... there should be the immigration courts stacked to the hilt with immigration judges to give them their required by law, day in court.... Instead of the court back up of a year or two wait.

 

[pknopp]

My thing is that I'm not against people wanting to come here and work, but it's the usage of those migrants by American businesses that compete them with American labor in hopes to destroy American labor in favor of working the migrants so cheap that it becomes the exploitation of a workforce by destroying the competing workforce in favor of the exploited one. This was taking place big time during the 90s all the way up to around 2008 when the bubble popped.

The betrayal of American labor has led to the destruction of millions of young Americans live's, but it's been nicely swept under the rug over time.

Problem now is that it's coming back into full swing under the Obiden administration. Sad day for America again.

It's never changed under any administration.

 

[beagle9]

Come down hard on those offering jobs and the other 90 don't even try to come.

Agree, but we do need labourers to come help out, it's just when the Democrat's and Republican's exploit them is when it all goes to hell.

 

[beagle9]

It's never changed under any administration.

Yeah but the Democrat's are the icing atop the cake.

 

[pknopp]

Agree, but we do need labourers to come help out, it's just when the Democrat's and Republican's exploit them is when it all goes to hell.

Absolutely but business wants no part of doing it all legal because then you have to pay a legal wage. Follow rules. Pay taxes.

 

[beagle9]

Absolutely but business wants no part of doing it all legal because then you have to pay a legal wage. Follow rules. Pay taxes.

That's been the situation in the past sure, and it will continue if allowed.

 

[Care4all]

My thing is that I'm not against people wanting to come here and work, but it's the usage of those migrants by American businesses that's the problem...... American businesses compete them with American labor in hopes to destroy American labor in favor of working the migrants so cheap, that it becomes the exploitation of a workforce by destroying the competing workforce in favor of the exploited one.

This was taking place big time during the 90s all the way up to around 2008 when the bubble popped.

The betrayal of American labor has led to the destruction of millions of young Americans live's, but it's been nicely swept under the rug over time.

Problem now is that it's coming back into full swing under the Obiden administration. Sad day for America again.

I thought it was the 1980s when this began.

And Reagan had strong laws that punished businesses that used illegal labor in his Amnesty bill, but guess what? The Small Business Association and Chamber, lobbied Republican congress critters, (not Democratic law makers) until the republicans, right before the Amnesty and immigration bill passed, TOOK OUT the measures to punish businesses using illegal labor.....the Republicans weakened the measures for their business buddies.....

 

[pknopp]

That's been the situation in the past sure, and it will continue if allowed.

It will be. We are not going to do anything that harms business.

 

[wamose]

The SC's decision might very well have been the proper one, but it sure as hell is going to punish the American worker and taxpayer. Decisions like this compound the damage made by all the bad immigration policies that Democrats and neocons favor so strongly.

 

[pknopp]

The SC's decision might very well have been the proper one, but it sure as hell is going to punish the American worker and taxpayer. Decisions like this compound the damage made by all the bad immigration policies that Democrats and neocons favor so strongly.

Nearly everyone favors them. The only difference is which ones will lie about it as in my post about DeSantis.

 

[Care4all]

The SC's decision might very well have been the proper one, but it sure as hell is going to punish the American worker and taxpayer. Decisions like this compound the damage made by all the bad immigration policies that Democrats and neocons favor so strongly.

Stay in mexico, until their court hearing, is pretty expensive....we're paying Mexico to do it.

Honest to goodness, the solution to this situation is to increase the immigration courts!

It varies on unrest in other countries on the swarms that hit us, but on average....more than 90% of those seeking asylum, are rejected by the courts, and sent back to their home countries.

If this court rejection took place within 2 to 4 weeks instead of a year or two later, and these seekers sent home near immediately due to their rejection, the word will get around their countries that selling all they own, to make a 1000 mile trip that takes a month or two, only to be immediately rejected by the courts, will stop or slow down the caravans coming here because it's not worth it!!!

 

[pknopp]

Stay in mexico, until their court hearing, is pretty expensive....we're paying Mexico to do it.

Honest to goodness, the solution to this situation is to increase the immigration courts!

It varies on unrest in other countries on the swarms that hit us, but on average....more than 90% of those seeking asylum, are rejected by the courts, and sent back to their home countries.

If this court rejection took place within 2 to 4 weeks instead of a year or two later, and these seekers sent home near immediately due to their rejection, the word will get around their countries that selling all they own, to make a 1000 mile trip that takes a month or two, only to be immediately rejected by the courts, will stop or slow down the caravans coming here because it's not worth it!!!

I'm all for increasing the courts but that will take years and it will likely never get done as D.C. can't agree on anything. One side will never allow the other side to start appointing judges. They will never agree on the funding for these new courts.

Or we could address the businesses hiring them.

 

[beagle9]

I thought it was the 1980s when this began.

And Reagan had strong laws that punished businesses that used illegal labor in his Amnesty bill, but guess what? The Small Business Association and Chamber, lobbied Republican congress critters, (not Democratic law makers) until the republicans, right before the Amnesty and immigration bill passed, TOOK OUT the measures to punish businesses using illegal labor.....the Republicans weakened the measures for their business buddies.....

They are all involved Republican's and Democrats.

 

[beagle9]

Stay in mexico, until their court hearing, is pretty expensive....we're paying Mexico to do it.

Honest to goodness, the solution to this situation is to increase the immigration courts!

It varies on unrest in other countries on the swarms that hit us, but on average....more than 90% of those seeking asylum, are rejected by the courts, and sent back to their home countries.

If this court rejection took place within 2 to 4 weeks instead of a year or two later, and these seekers sent home near immediately due to their rejection, the word will get around their countries that selling all they own, to make a 1000 mile trip that takes a month or two, only to be immediately rejected by the courts, will stop or slow down the caravans coming here because it's not worth it!!!

Keep making sense... I'll keep reading.

 

[Care4all]

Oh, I think it is BOTH! And one doesn't work, without the other!! And the businesses being meaningfully punished, is something immediate, and a crucial part.

The thing is, if an illegal is just sent back to their home country and evicted, without their court hearing for refugee status, like with Title 42, then they will continue to try to cross again, and it will only be a misdemeanor, under our law....even ten times crossing and returned...

It only becomes a FELONY illegal crossing, after the illegal has been rejected by the court, and attempts after his legal day in court to reenter....jail time.

 

[beagle9]

I'm all for increasing the courts but that will take years and it will likely never get done as D.C. can't agree on anything. One side will never allow the other side to start appointing judges. They will never agree on the funding for these new courts.

Or we could address the businesses hiring them.

That'll never happen either, because that's been in play for year's with the I-9 verification forms etc, but somehow the verification process was cheated or not enforced by let's say random spot audit's etc... If enforcement was being done, then we wouldn't have experienced the disaster in this country that has worked to sell us out over time.

It's likened to a roadway job, where as the contractor wins the bid, and the state or federal inspector is supposed to oversee the quality of the work, the production and time involved etc, but if that inspector is won over by the contractor through gift's, pay offs etc, then everything goes to hell after that. What we end up with is a shotty job that won't last the time period in which the road should have lasted, and by that time the contractor banks a cool million for the job, and has the whole country to run around playing his games in, otherwise looking for his next weak corruptible official. We the citizen's then have to pay higher taxes because the state's seemingly getting behind on their infrastructure because it's falling apart for some weird reason. Rinse wash and repeat, rinse wash and repeat.

We the citizen's end up paying dearly for all the corruption, but corruption like any other thing in this country has become the norm, even if it isn't a norm but is being called that now in certain circles.