study wealth distribution: Gains of wealthy hurts the rest

[Wiseacre]

I think they started with a finding and then went out looking for data to support it.

You hate it when science proves you wrong huh?

Not really, hell I'm wrong on a regular basis and my wife can quote chapter and verse on it, LOL. But if you think that is science then you're seriously mistaken. Science observes and experiments, and draws conclusions called theories. Nothing is accepted as fact until and unless it can be demonstrated to always be true under all circumstances. And even then it gets constantly scutinized and questioned as new discoveries are made or new knowledge acquired.

What that study does is hardly science, it uses previous studies that are themselves questionable in the minds of many, and draws conclusions. Which is fine, but to present those findings as actual fact is ridiculous. Surely you know that field of macroeconomics is far more complex than just income or wealth inequality. One may say I think this or that is true and this is why, but one does not say this is the truth. One does not advance somebody's opinion in a suspect study commissioned by a far left organization like the Center for American Progress and demand acceptance of whatever they say as fact. Not if one expects to be taken seriously.

 

[California Girl]

You all have claimed for years now that when the wealthy gain assets the middle class gain assests right?


These guys just proved that is not true.

Oh.

Dear.

Gawd.

You really are beyond dumb. Seriously. You have proven - time and again - that you don't even have a basic understanding of how to read academic research.

Do you ever post anything of substance? Ever? Or just constant attacks and ridicule of other people?

I know there is a lot to make fun of on this site, starting with your post count and the amount of free time you must have to constantly be attacking people while providing little actual substance yourself.

I know, I should make fun of the mentally challenged... but if y'all choose ignorance over intellect, then you deserve mocking.

 

[Big Fitz]

then go back to the sources you trust and play with yourself

In other words...

TM can't come up with a non-partisan source, so she'll make a silly comment.

DING! Right on target.

 

[RDD_1210]

Oh.

Dear.

Gawd.

You really are beyond dumb. Seriously. You have proven - time and again - that you don't even have a basic understanding of how to read academic research.

Do you ever post anything of substance? Ever? Or just constant attacks and ridicule of other people?

I know there is a lot to make fun of on this site, starting with your post count and the amount of free time you must have to constantly be attacking people while providing little actual substance yourself.

I know, I should make fun of the mentally challenged... but if y'all choose ignorance over intellect, then you deserve mocking.

Post something useful once in a while, please. Out of your 40+ posts a day I don't think it's too much for you to post something that actually has some meat to it. The one liner, insult riddled posts are beyond old. You'd think someone with a self proclaimed high IQ would be able to produce something intelligent once in a while. No?

 

[Big Fitz]

Do you ever post anything of substance? Ever? Or just constant attacks and ridicule of other people?

I know there is a lot to make fun of on this site, starting with your post count and the amount of free time you must have to constantly be attacking people while providing little actual substance yourself.

I know, I should make fun of the mentally challenged... but if y'all choose ignorance over intellect, then you deserve mocking.

Post something useful once in a while, please. Out of your 40+ posts a day I don't think it's too much for you to post something that actually has some meat to it. The one liner, insult riddled posts are beyond old. You'd think someone with a self proclaimed high IQ would be able to produce something intelligent once in a while. No?

out of your 4000+ lifetime post, I wonder if you made one that wasn't drivvel. Why should she be held to a higher standard? At least she's entertaining.

 

[Immanuel]

Dude its you who are trying VERY hard to misunderstand me like you ALWAYS do.

Go play with someone else unless you really want to discuss something rather than just flail at me personally.

Get it Immy , play your game with a willing partner. Im no longer willing to abide your hate.

I get it. You don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Nothing new there.

And I will continue to point that fact out every time you show how much of an idiot you really are. And, I realize you are opposed to the idea of the Freedom of Speech, but as long as I am not banned from this site, I will continue to post on any thread I want regardless of your anti-American wish to shut me up.

Immie

I never said you couldnt post , Ill just stop playing with you OK.

i will answer the real posts who actually deal with the subject at hand instead of the ones making up questions that have nothing to do with what is said or being discussed.

Now why dont you read the study and we can talk like adults?

You don't answer my posts, because they make sense and you can't answer them.

I ask you to provide proof on what David Barton said and you never even reply. You repeatedly post lie after lie after lie and you never support your point of view with anything except opinion pieces from rags like HuffPost or TPM.

And you did tell me to go somewhere else twice even.

Whenever I see you posting your lies, I am going to hound you about it. Just as I have been. And you will continue to show how much of an ass you are by continuing the lies and not backing anything you say up.

Now as to your study, did you by any chance read any of it or have you just let TPM do your posting for you?

Did you see the part where it said that researchers have not come to any kind of a consensus? Some think it is good, some bad and there are even some that think there is no impact.

It is obvious that once again you are spreading your desires for wealth redistribution here and that you hate anyone who has actually done well in life. Why on earth should Warren Buffet be penalized for your failures? Is it his fault that you are such a wreck?

Give me one good reason why the affluent should have to stop earning wealth simply because it means that people like you earn less? That only makes sense to socialists such as yourself. It sure as hell doesn't make sense to me.

Did you by chance read the reasons for this problem? One of those reasons is that the rich tend to recede from the rest of the world. Who can blame them? Why should they send their kids to over crowded schools or go the the YMCA to swim when they have a pool to themselves?

Immie

 

[RDD_1210]

I know, I should make fun of the mentally challenged... but if y'all choose ignorance over intellect, then you deserve mocking.

Post something useful once in a while, please. Out of your 40+ posts a day I don't think it's too much for you to post something that actually has some meat to it. The one liner, insult riddled posts are beyond old. You'd think someone with a self proclaimed high IQ would be able to produce something intelligent once in a while. No?

out of your 4000+ lifetime post, I wonder if you made one that wasn't drivvel. Why should she be held to a higher standard? At least she's entertaining.

While I've made plenty of posts that poked fun of people such as yourself, I almost always try to have a rational conversation with someone first. Once they tell me that isn't something they want to do, I'll remember that for next time in order to not waste my time. This is exactly the case with what happened with you and your utter refusal to have an adult conversation with me.

And maybe thats the difference between people like you and me. You're just looking to be entertained, while I'd actually like to learn something.

 

[Big Fitz]

Post something useful once in a while, please. Out of your 40+ posts a day I don't think it's too much for you to post something that actually has some meat to it. The one liner, insult riddled posts are beyond old. You'd think someone with a self proclaimed high IQ would be able to produce something intelligent once in a while. No?

out of your 4000+ lifetime post, I wonder if you made one that wasn't drivvel. Why should she be held to a higher standard? At least she's entertaining.

While I've made plenty of posts that poked fun of people such as yourself, I almost always try to have a rational conversation with someone first. Once they tell me that isn't something they want to do, I'll remember that for next time in order to not waste my time. This is exactly the case with what happened with you and your utter refusal to have an adult conversation with me.

And maybe thats the difference between people like you and me. You're just looking to be entertained, while I'd actually like to learn something.

I seem to recall I did when you first joined the board. That lasted one thread if even that. I learn quick from my mistakes about assuming someone is capable of adult conversation, and after it has been shown to be impossible, I rarely waste my time trying that again.

 

[California Girl]

Post something useful once in a while, please. Out of your 40+ posts a day I don't think it's too much for you to post something that actually has some meat to it. The one liner, insult riddled posts are beyond old. You'd think someone with a self proclaimed high IQ would be able to produce something intelligent once in a while. No?

out of your 4000+ lifetime post, I wonder if you made one that wasn't drivvel. Why should she be held to a higher standard? At least she's entertaining.

While I've made plenty of posts that poked fun of people such as yourself, I almost always try to have a rational conversation with someone first. Once they tell me that isn't something they want to do, I'll remember that for next time in order to not waste my time. This is exactly the case with what happened with you and your utter refusal to have an adult conversation with me.

And maybe thats the difference between people like you and me. You're just looking to be entertained, while I'd actually like to learn something.

The only thing I'd learn from you - or truthdon'tmatter - is how to be a total idiot. That is a lesson I can live without. Thanks all the same.

 

[RDD_1210]

out of your 4000+ lifetime post, I wonder if you made one that wasn't drivvel. Why should she be held to a higher standard? At least she's entertaining.

While I've made plenty of posts that poked fun of people such as yourself, I almost always try to have a rational conversation with someone first. Once they tell me that isn't something they want to do, I'll remember that for next time in order to not waste my time. This is exactly the case with what happened with you and your utter refusal to have an adult conversation with me.

And maybe thats the difference between people like you and me. You're just looking to be entertained, while I'd actually like to learn something.

The only thing I'd learn from you - or truthdon'tmatter - is how to be a total idiot. That is a lesson I can live without. Thanks all the same.

I didn't say you need to learn anything from me, but maybe if you posted something meaningful people can learn from you and vice versa. Instead you just attack, attack, attack. You seem incredibly angry and grossly insecure. I'm sure you'll just call me a name again, that's ok I expect it.

 

[hboats]

I get it. You don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Nothing new there.

And I will continue to point that fact out every time you show how much of an idiot you really are. And, I realize you are opposed to the idea of the Freedom of Speech, but as long as I am not banned from this site, I will continue to post on any thread I want regardless of your anti-American wish to shut me up.

Immie

I never said you couldnt post , Ill just stop playing with you OK.

i will answer the real posts who actually deal with the subject at hand instead of the ones making up questions that have nothing to do with what is said or being discussed.

Now why dont you read the study and we can talk like adults?

You don't answer my posts, because they make sense and you can't answer them.

I ask you to provide proof on what David Barton said and you never even reply. You repeatedly post lie after lie after lie and you never support your point of view with anything except opinion pieces from rags like HuffPost or TPM.

And you did tell me to go somewhere else twice even.

Whenever I see you posting your lies, I am going to hound you about it. Just as I have been. And you will continue to show how much of an ass you are by continuing the lies and not backing anything you say up.

Now as to your study, did you by any chance read any of it or have you just let TPM do your posting for you?

Did you see the part where it said that researchers have not come to any kind of a consensus? Some think it is good, some bad and there are even some that think there is no impact.

It is obvious that once again you are spreading your desires for wealth redistribution here and that you hate anyone who has actually done well in life. Why on earth should Warren Buffet be penalized for your failures? Is it his fault that you are such a wreck?

Give me one good reason why the affluent should have to stop earning wealth simply because it means that people like you earn less? That only makes sense to socialists such as yourself. It sure as hell doesn't make sense to me.

Did you by chance read the reasons for this problem? One of those reasons is that the rich tend to recede from the rest of the world. Who can blame them? Why should they send their kids to over crowded schools or go the the YMCA to swim when they have a pool to themselves?

Immie

How much do you want to bet that Truthnevermatters will ignore this post and go on like it was never here?

Rick

 

[Immanuel]

I never said you couldnt post , Ill just stop playing with you OK.

i will answer the real posts who actually deal with the subject at hand instead of the ones making up questions that have nothing to do with what is said or being discussed.

Now why dont you read the study and we can talk like adults?

You don't answer my posts, because they make sense and you can't answer them.

I ask you to provide proof on what David Barton said and you never even reply. You repeatedly post lie after lie after lie and you never support your point of view with anything except opinion pieces from rags like HuffPost or TPM.

And you did tell me to go somewhere else twice even.

Whenever I see you posting your lies, I am going to hound you about it. Just as I have been. And you will continue to show how much of an ass you are by continuing the lies and not backing anything you say up.

Now as to your study, did you by any chance read any of it or have you just let TPM do your posting for you?

Did you see the part where it said that researchers have not come to any kind of a consensus? Some think it is good, some bad and there are even some that think there is no impact.

It is obvious that once again you are spreading your desires for wealth redistribution here and that you hate anyone who has actually done well in life. Why on earth should Warren Buffet be penalized for your failures? Is it his fault that you are such a wreck?

Give me one good reason why the affluent should have to stop earning wealth simply because it means that people like you earn less? That only makes sense to socialists such as yourself. It sure as hell doesn't make sense to me.

Did you by chance read the reasons for this problem? One of those reasons is that the rich tend to recede from the rest of the world. Who can blame them? Why should they send their kids to over crowded schools or go the the YMCA to swim when they have a pool to themselves?

Immie

How much do you want to bet that Truthnevermatters will ignore this post and go on like it was never here?

Rick

Sorry, I can't afford to lose that bet.

Immie

 

[Big Fitz]

While I've made plenty of posts that poked fun of people such as yourself, I almost always try to have a rational conversation with someone first. Once they tell me that isn't something they want to do, I'll remember that for next time in order to not waste my time. This is exactly the case with what happened with you and your utter refusal to have an adult conversation with me.

And maybe thats the difference between people like you and me. You're just looking to be entertained, while I'd actually like to learn something.

The only thing I'd learn from you - or truthdon'tmatter - is how to be a total idiot. That is a lesson I can live without. Thanks all the same.

I didn't say you need to learn anything from me, but maybe if you posted something meaningful people can learn from you and vice versa. Instead you just attack, attack, attack. You seem incredibly angry and grossly insecure. I'm sure you'll just call me a name again, that's ok I expect it.

awww... isn't the self-denial of his own behavior cute??

 

[Skull Pilot]

when you buy as share of a company you are buying just that.

a piece of it.

how many times they slice it doesnt change that you have bought a slice does it?

Wow you really don't get it do you?

If I but 1000 shares in X company and no shares are sold that day does the value of the shares of other holders decrease?

The answer is no.

Where did I ever say it did?

When you stated wealth and assets are a zero sum game,

You people are trying REAL hard to avoid the facts this study found.

When you concentrate TOO much wealth in too few hands it harms the vast majority of peoples lifes in the society.

Define too much

So which is the society you want to see with your policy decisions?


More people having a decent level of human experience for their hard work in society OR a soceity where we end up with a few small uber wealthy class and everyone else living a third world exsistance?

That is the choice we are about to make.

You're still playing the zero sum game and you're still losing the argument.

how would you vote to protect yout own self interests?

I wouldn't vote for any idiot who tried to tell me that I have too much money.

 

[California Girl]

Wealth Redistribution has been a disaster.

Republicans moving the wealth from the middle class to the top few percent proves we shouldn't be involved in "wealth redistribution".

 

[hboats]

And Truthnevermatters disappears from another of her threads when confronted with the truth of the matter.

No surprises here.

Rick

 

[Rat in the Hat]

And Truthnevermatters disappears from another of her threads when confronted with the truth of the matter.

No surprises here.

Rick

This thread is just another notch on truthnevermatters "Blazing Cap Gun of Stupidity".

 

[Immanuel]

And Truthnevermatters disappears from another of her threads when confronted with the truth of the matter.

No surprises here.

Rick

This thread is just another notch on truthnevermatters "Blazing Cap Gun of Stupidity".

Did you expect it to turn out any differently?

Immie

 

[hboats]

I get it. You don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Nothing new there.

And I will continue to point that fact out every time you show how much of an idiot you really are. And, I realize you are opposed to the idea of the Freedom of Speech, but as long as I am not banned from this site, I will continue to post on any thread I want regardless of your anti-American wish to shut me up.

Immie

I never said you couldnt post , Ill just stop playing with you OK.

i will answer the real posts who actually deal with the subject at hand instead of the ones making up questions that have nothing to do with what is said or being discussed.

Now why dont you read the study and we can talk like adults?

You don't answer my posts, because they make sense and you can't answer them.

I ask you to provide proof on what David Barton said and you never even reply. You repeatedly post lie after lie after lie and you never support your point of view with anything except opinion pieces from rags like HuffPost or TPM.

And you did tell me to go somewhere else twice even.

Whenever I see you posting your lies, I am going to hound you about it. Just as I have been. And you will continue to show how much of an ass you are by continuing the lies and not backing anything you say up.

Now as to your study, did you by any chance read any of it or have you just let TPM do your posting for you?

Did you see the part where it said that researchers have not come to any kind of a consensus? Some think it is good, some bad and there are even some that think there is no impact.

It is obvious that once again you are spreading your desires for wealth redistribution here and that you hate anyone who has actually done well in life. Why on earth should Warren Buffet be penalized for your failures? Is it his fault that you are such a wreck?

Give me one good reason why the affluent should have to stop earning wealth simply because it means that people like you earn less? That only makes sense to socialists such as yourself. It sure as hell doesn't make sense to me.

Did you by chance read the reasons for this problem? One of those reasons is that the rich tend to recede from the rest of the world. Who can blame them? Why should they send their kids to over crowded schools or go the the YMCA to swim when they have a pool to themselves?

Immie

Just as I figured would happen Truthnevermatters is back running all over the board and is avoiding this thread and specifically this post like it is the plague.

Why can't you have an adult debate over the questions and facts that Immie has posted above Truthnevermatters???????????

Rick

 

[Truthmatters]

this study shows what your right wing ideas does to the American people.

Be proud