Stocks do 9 times better when Democrats are in the White House

[ABikerSailor]

This thread is was posted by a moron who somehow claims that stock market performance is tied to who is in the WH. The argument takes nothing into account except a simple scatter graph of time and stock market performance.

It fails an 8th grade logic course because it makes no real argument.

It just hides behind a spurious conclusion that cannot be upheld.

The stock maret feel apart under Obama and came back to life when the GOP took back the house.

Related...somewhat.

What is so sad is that some so called adults have very little ability to actually relate things.

Came back to life? Really? Because the only thing Boehner and company have managed to do is be the LEAST productive congress in a long time, passing legislation on crap like abortion, DOMA, birth control and stopping gay marriage.

They haven't done squat to pass ANY legislation that would cause the stock market to recover.

 

[Syphon]

This thread is was posted by a moron who somehow claims that stock market performance is tied to who is in the WH. The argument takes nothing into account except a simple scatter graph of time and stock market performance.

It fails an 8th grade logic course because it makes no real argument.

It just hides behind a spurious conclusion that cannot be upheld.

The stock maret feel apart under Obama and came back to life when the GOP took back the house.

Related...somewhat.

What is so sad is that some so called adults have very little ability to actually relate things.

and proof to this statement in the way of a link?

The proof of what statement ?

That it somewhat came back under the GOP ? I said it was somewhat related.

What exactly are you looking for ?

Proof that you can't make the claim of the OP ?

the GOP controlled the house and the dems controlled both the senate and the WH. so by your logic it was because the Dems held 2/3rds of government.....

im looking for proof that links GOP control of the house to a better stock market. what policy has the GOP put forth that has changed things financially? the Dems pushed through Dodd Frank. so one could infer that Dodd Frank is the reason the stock market is better.

the stock market didnt fall apart under Obama. the DOW hits its low of around 7,000 on Fed 27, 2009. a little over a month after Obama took office. so you are claiming that the policies he put in place between his inauguration and 2/27 are what tanked the economy? thats laughable. by Jan 2010 the stock market had risen roughly 4200 points. this was the time when the Dems controlled the House, Senate and WH. are you saying he had nothing to so with this? as of close of business yesterday the Dow sat at 12,997.57. So under full DEM control the market the DOW rose 4200 points. when the GOP got control of the House, growth slowed and has only risen 1,797 points (as opposed to 2100 annually on average) 300 points less than the average growth under the DEMS. looking at those numbers i could easily say that the GOP have slowed growth that was booming under the DEMS.

 

[Listening]

and proof to this statement in the way of a link?

The proof of what statement ?

That it somewhat came back under the GOP ? I said it was somewhat related.

What exactly are you looking for ?

Proof that you can't make the claim of the OP ?

the GOP controlled the house and the dems controlled both the senate and the WH. so by your logic it was because the Dems held 2/3rds of government.....

im looking for proof that links GOP control of the house to a better stock market. what policy has the GOP put forth that has changed things financially? the Dems pushed through Dodd Frank. so one could infer that Dodd Frank is the reason the stock market is better.

the stock market didnt fall apart under Obama. the DOW hits its low of around 7,000 on Fed 27, 2009. a little over a month after Obama took office. so you are claiming that the policies he put in place between his inauguration and 2/27 are what tanked the economy? thats laughable. by Jan 2010 the stock market had risen roughly 4200 points. this was the time when the Dems controlled the House, Senate and WH. are you saying he had nothing to so with this? as of close of business yesterday the Dow sat at 12,997.57. So under full DEM control the market the DOW rose 4200 points. when the GOP got control of the House, growth slowed and has only risen 1,797 points (as opposed to 2100 annually on average) 300 points less than the average growth under the DEMS. looking at those numbers i could easily say that the GOP have slowed growth that was booming under the DEMS.

Nice fantasy.

I sat in capital planning meetings a year before Obama was elected and it was already evident that large companies were concerned about the potential of Clinton or Obama getting into the WH. They were also concerned about the already liberal condition of the house and senate. In several instances, I saw companies and businesses start to park cash waiting to see what happened. When Obama was nominated, they pretty much put the brakes on. By then the economic log jam was already projected. The market started to skid. Unlike you morons, a lot of people look ahead and question the consequences of poltical elections. So, in effect, it was his probably election that already started a slowdown.

That you think his innaguration was special is also funny. In the summer before, capital was drying up fast. All because they were concerend about the debt and his campaign promises. Pivoting on that date shows you've never worked in business.

Businesses were sitting on cash. Then things start to change.

At first, Obamacare scared them.

But, then the possibility of the house going back to the GOP started to loom. Many companies, anxious to move forward, did just that. Again, looking forward and playing the probabilities.

Unlike reactionaries like yourself, they have to look forward. They have to bet on the probability of some things happening. My company bet 400 million on an acquistion all based on the business environment improving in 2010.

Just like Chris, you have no idea of what goes on around this or what people are looking ahead to.

 

[Syphon]

The proof of what statement ?

That it somewhat came back under the GOP ? I said it was somewhat related.

What exactly are you looking for ?

Proof that you can't make the claim of the OP ?

the GOP controlled the house and the dems controlled both the senate and the WH. so by your logic it was because the Dems held 2/3rds of government.....

im looking for proof that links GOP control of the house to a better stock market. what policy has the GOP put forth that has changed things financially? the Dems pushed through Dodd Frank. so one could infer that Dodd Frank is the reason the stock market is better.

the stock market didnt fall apart under Obama. the DOW hits its low of around 7,000 on Fed 27, 2009. a little over a month after Obama took office. so you are claiming that the policies he put in place between his inauguration and 2/27 are what tanked the economy? thats laughable. by Jan 2010 the stock market had risen roughly 4200 points. this was the time when the Dems controlled the House, Senate and WH. are you saying he had nothing to so with this? as of close of business yesterday the Dow sat at 12,997.57. So under full DEM control the market the DOW rose 4200 points. when the GOP got control of the House, growth slowed and has only risen 1,797 points (as opposed to 2100 annually on average) 300 points less than the average growth under the DEMS. looking at those numbers i could easily say that the GOP have slowed growth that was booming under the DEMS.

Nice fantasy.

I sat in capital planning meetings a year before Obama was elected and it was already evident that large companies were concerned about the potential of Clinton or Obama getting into the WH. They were also concerned about the already liberal condition of the house and senate. In several instances, I saw companies and businesses start to park cash waiting to see what happened. When Obama was nominated, they pretty much put the brakes on. By then the economic log jam was already projected. The market started to skid. Unlike you morons, a lot of people look ahead and question the consequences of poltical elections. So, in effect, it was his probably election that already started a slowdown.

That you think his innaguration was special is also funny. In the summer before, capital was drying up fast. All because they were concerend about the debt and his campaign promises. Pivoting on that date shows you've never worked in business.

Businesses were sitting on cash. Then things start to change.

At first, Obamacare scared them.

But, then the possibility of the house going back to the GOP started to loom. Many companies, anxious to move forward, did just that. Again, looking forward and playing the probabilities.

Unlike reactionaries like yourself, they have to look forward. They have to bet on the probability of some things happening. My company bet 400 million on an acquistion all based on the business environment improving in 2010.

Just like Chris, you have no idea of what goes on around this or what people are looking ahead to.

riiigggghhhhhttttt........ all those business sitting on cash but the stock market on a giant boom with the dems in full control never happened right?? right?? right??

and there was no crash of the market under GWB. that never happened did? you wing nuts live in a fantasy world where you wont admit to facts.

fact - the stock market went from 7000 to nearly 13000 under obama.
fact - GDP has been positive with obama in office
fact - we went from losing 750,000 jobs a month under bush to creating over 200,000 jobs a month under Obama


"That you think his innaguration was special is also funny. In the summer before, capital was drying up fast. All because they were concerend about the debt and his campaign promises. Pivoting on that date shows you've never worked in business." those are your exact words.... well tell the world who was president during that time...... GWB.

living in a bubble might be nice.

 

[Listening]

the GOP controlled the house and the dems controlled both the senate and the WH. so by your logic it was because the Dems held 2/3rds of government.....

im looking for proof that links GOP control of the house to a better stock market. what policy has the GOP put forth that has changed things financially? the Dems pushed through Dodd Frank. so one could infer that Dodd Frank is the reason the stock market is better.

the stock market didnt fall apart under Obama. the DOW hits its low of around 7,000 on Fed 27, 2009. a little over a month after Obama took office. so you are claiming that the policies he put in place between his inauguration and 2/27 are what tanked the economy? thats laughable. by Jan 2010 the stock market had risen roughly 4200 points. this was the time when the Dems controlled the House, Senate and WH. are you saying he had nothing to so with this? as of close of business yesterday the Dow sat at 12,997.57. So under full DEM control the market the DOW rose 4200 points. when the GOP got control of the House, growth slowed and has only risen 1,797 points (as opposed to 2100 annually on average) 300 points less than the average growth under the DEMS. looking at those numbers i could easily say that the GOP have slowed growth that was booming under the DEMS.

Nice fantasy.

I sat in capital planning meetings a year before Obama was elected and it was already evident that large companies were concerned about the potential of Clinton or Obama getting into the WH. They were also concerned about the already liberal condition of the house and senate. In several instances, I saw companies and businesses start to park cash waiting to see what happened. When Obama was nominated, they pretty much put the brakes on. By then the economic log jam was already projected. The market started to skid. Unlike you morons, a lot of people look ahead and question the consequences of poltical elections. So, in effect, it was his probably election that already started a slowdown.

That you think his innaguration was special is also funny. In the summer before, capital was drying up fast. All because they were concerend about the debt and his campaign promises. Pivoting on that date shows you've never worked in business.

Businesses were sitting on cash. Then things start to change.

At first, Obamacare scared them.

But, then the possibility of the house going back to the GOP started to loom. Many companies, anxious to move forward, did just that. Again, looking forward and playing the probabilities.

Unlike reactionaries like yourself, they have to look forward. They have to bet on the probability of some things happening. My company bet 400 million on an acquistion all based on the business environment improving in 2010.

Just like Chris, you have no idea of what goes on around this or what people are looking ahead to.

riiigggghhhhhttttt........ all those business sitting on cash but the stock market on a giant boom with the dems in full control never happened right?? right?? right??

and there was no crash of the market under GWB. that never happened did? you wing nuts live in a fantasy world where you wont admit to facts.

fact - the stock market went from 7000 to nearly 13000 under obama.
fact - GDP has been positive with obama in office
fact - we went from losing 750,000 jobs a month under bush to creating over 200,000 jobs a month under Obama


"That you think his innaguration was special is also funny. In the summer before, capital was drying up fast. All because they were concerend about the debt and his campaign promises. Pivoting on that date shows you've never worked in business." those are your exact words.... well tell the world who was president during that time...... GWB.

living in a bubble might be nice.

Thanks for proving that you have no idea of how business works.

 

[Syphon]

Nice fantasy.

I sat in capital planning meetings a year before Obama was elected and it was already evident that large companies were concerned about the potential of Clinton or Obama getting into the WH. They were also concerned about the already liberal condition of the house and senate. In several instances, I saw companies and businesses start to park cash waiting to see what happened. When Obama was nominated, they pretty much put the brakes on. By then the economic log jam was already projected. The market started to skid. Unlike you morons, a lot of people look ahead and question the consequences of poltical elections. So, in effect, it was his probably election that already started a slowdown.

That you think his innaguration was special is also funny. In the summer before, capital was drying up fast. All because they were concerend about the debt and his campaign promises. Pivoting on that date shows you've never worked in business.

Businesses were sitting on cash. Then things start to change.

At first, Obamacare scared them.

But, then the possibility of the house going back to the GOP started to loom. Many companies, anxious to move forward, did just that. Again, looking forward and playing the probabilities.

Unlike reactionaries like yourself, they have to look forward. They have to bet on the probability of some things happening. My company bet 400 million on an acquistion all based on the business environment improving in 2010.

Just like Chris, you have no idea of what goes on around this or what people are looking ahead to.

riiigggghhhhhttttt........ all those business sitting on cash but the stock market on a giant boom with the dems in full control never happened right?? right?? right??

and there was no crash of the market under GWB. that never happened did? you wing nuts live in a fantasy world where you wont admit to facts.

fact - the stock market went from 7000 to nearly 13000 under obama.
fact - GDP has been positive with obama in office
fact - we went from losing 750,000 jobs a month under bush to creating over 200,000 jobs a month under Obama


"That you think his innaguration was special is also funny. In the summer before, capital was drying up fast. All because they were concerend about the debt and his campaign promises. Pivoting on that date shows you've never worked in business." those are your exact words.... well tell the world who was president during that time...... GWB.

living in a bubble might be nice.

Thanks for proving that you have no idea of how business works.

i see you disproved everything i said with facts and links to support it.

soooooo explain it to us all then. show us your business wisdom here and how you have all the ideas on how to save the country.

let me guess.... lower taxes.... less regulation.....free market......
yeah tell everyone how that worked between 2004 and 2008?

 

[Listening]

i see you disproved everything i said with facts and links to support it.

soooooo explain it to us all then. show us your business wisdom here and how you have all the ideas on how to save the country.

let me guess.... lower taxes.... less regulation.....free market......
yeah tell everyone how that worked between 2004 and 2008?

Your obsession with dates betrays an inherent ignorance. Capital markets don't wait for a liberal "spread the wealth around" guy to be sworn in. But it appears you don't get that.

You guessed....you answer yourself.

Please address your own questions first. Less regulation and free markets did not exist to any appreciable degree in 2000 or 2004.

Lower taxes are a recipie for disaster when spending hasn't been cut.

You can't fight stupid wars and go into debt. But then, your talking points might have shown you that.

Spending cuts were the answer and GWB & Co. were not anywhere the caliber of president to understand that.

 

[Syphon]

i see you disproved everything i said with facts and links to support it.

soooooo explain it to us all then. show us your business wisdom here and how you have all the ideas on how to save the country.

let me guess.... lower taxes.... less regulation.....free market......
yeah tell everyone how that worked between 2004 and 2008?

Your obsession with dates betrays an inherent ignorance. Capital markets don't wait for a liberal "spread the wealth around" guy to be sworn in. But it appears you don't get that.

You guessed....you answer yourself.

Please address your own questions first. Less regulation and free markets did not exist to any appreciable degree in 2000 or 2004.

Lower taxes are a recipie for disaster when spending hasn't been cut.

You can't fight stupid wars and go into debt. But then, your talking points might have shown you that.

Spending cuts were the answer and GWB & Co. were not anywhere the caliber of president to understand that.

yes, all the dates and facts about obama getting elected in 2008, the dems having control from 2008 to 2010, the stock market going form 7000 to almost 13,000 are all made up. that never happened.

between 2004 and 2008 under Bush the market didnt crash either. the lack of regulation on wall street didnt lead to a major collapase of the financial markets. that never happened either.

if capital markets didnt like Obama, why is the market up 6000 points since he took office? that defys your wing nut logic already.

prove anything i have said is a lie. otherwise your just a giant liar and make up facts to try and sound smart. unfortunately you sound like a huge idiot.

 

[Listening]

i see you disproved everything i said with facts and links to support it.

soooooo explain it to us all then. show us your business wisdom here and how you have all the ideas on how to save the country.

let me guess.... lower taxes.... less regulation.....free market......
yeah tell everyone how that worked between 2004 and 2008?

Your obsession with dates betrays an inherent ignorance. Capital markets don't wait for a liberal "spread the wealth around" guy to be sworn in. But it appears you don't get that.

You guessed....you answer yourself.

Please address your own questions first. Less regulation and free markets did not exist to any appreciable degree in 2000 or 2004.

Lower taxes are a recipie for disaster when spending hasn't been cut.

You can't fight stupid wars and go into debt. But then, your talking points might have shown you that.

Spending cuts were the answer and GWB & Co. were not anywhere the caliber of president to understand that.

yes, all the dates and facts about obama getting elected in 2008, the dems having control from 2008 to 2010, the stock market going form 7000 to almost 13,000 are all made up. that never happened.

between 2004 and 2008 under Bush the market didnt crash either. the lack of regulation on wall street didnt lead to a major collapase of the financial markets. that never happened either.

if capital markets didnt like Obama, why is the market up 6000 points since he took office? that defys your wing nut logic already.

prove anything i have said is a lie. otherwise your just a giant liar and make up facts to try and sound smart. unfortunately you sound like a huge idiot.

With one exception, the market has always recovered.

Get a macro book and pull your head out of your ass.

The captial markets didn't get serious until it started to look like he might lose the house. Then they were just betting. I was in some of those sessions. You were probably on a playground.

 

[Syphon]

and who was in power when the market recovered?? oh thats right the Dems. in full control of all 3 branches.

the market grew from 7000 to 10600 from 2008 to 2010. in jan after the GOP took control it fell 600 points before recovering to 11000 and then fell again to 9600 due to the debt ceiling debate which the GOP walked away from negotiations.

hows the 5th grade education working out for you?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

and who was in power when the market recovered?? oh thats right the Dems. in full control of all 3 branches.

the market grew from 7000 to 10600 from 2008 to 2010. in jan after the GOP took control it fell 600 points before recovering to 11000 and then fell again to 9600 due to the debt ceiling debate which the GOP walked away from negotiations.

hows the 5th grade education working out for you?

Who said anything about a recovery? OH that's right the democrats.

 

[Intense]

and who was in power when the market recovered?? oh thats right the Dems. in full control of all 3 branches.

the market grew from 7000 to 10600 from 2008 to 2010. in jan after the GOP took control it fell 600 points before recovering to 11000 and then fell again to 9600 due to the debt ceiling debate which the GOP walked away from negotiations.

hows the 5th grade education working out for you?

Who said anything about a recovery? OH that's right the democrats.

They sure are having fun manipulating the Federal Reserve and the Market. Maybe it's time for some Auditing? Past Time? Shutting down Energy, Oil, Yeah, real promising, maybe only in Hijacking a Republic, but Yeah, real promising. Let's all invest everything in Wind and how about recycled food while we are at it. Shit Yeah!!! Let's start with all of the Government Pension Funds. One Thing, no more bail outs for piss poor investments of the Privileged Untouchable Class, on the dime of the rest of us.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

and who was in power when the market recovered?? oh thats right the Dems. in full control of all 3 branches.

the market grew from 7000 to 10600 from 2008 to 2010. in jan after the GOP took control it fell 600 points before recovering to 11000 and then fell again to 9600 due to the debt ceiling debate which the GOP walked away from negotiations.

hows the 5th grade education working out for you?

Who said anything about a recovery? OH that's right the democrats.

They sure are having fun manipulating the Federal Reserve and the Market. Maybe it's time for some Auditing? Past Time? Shutting down Energy, Oil, Yeah, real promising, maybe only in Hijacking a Republic, but Yeah, real promising. Let's all invest everything in Wind and how about recycled food while we are at it. Shit Yeah!!! Let's start with all of the Government Pension Funds. One Thing, no more bail outs for piss poor investments of the Privileged Untouchable Class, in the dime of the rest of us.

 

[Syphon]

and who was in power when the market recovered?? oh thats right the Dems. in full control of all 3 branches.

the market grew from 7000 to 10600 from 2008 to 2010. in jan after the GOP took control it fell 600 points before recovering to 11000 and then fell again to 9600 due to the debt ceiling debate which the GOP walked away from negotiations.

hows the 5th grade education working out for you?

Who said anything about a recovery? OH that's right the democrats.

They sure are having fun manipulating the Federal Reserve and the Market. Maybe it's time for some Auditing? Past Time? Shutting down Energy, Oil, Yeah, real promising, maybe only in Hijacking a Republic, but Yeah, real promising. Let's all invest everything in Wind and how about recycled food while we are at it. Shit Yeah!!! Let's start with all of the Government Pension Funds. One Thing, no more bail outs for piss poor investments of the Privileged Untouchable Class, in the dime of the rest of us.

so the stock market hasnt gone from 7000 to nearly 13000 while Obama has been in the WH and the Dems have had control of government?

got facts are hard for the right to comprehend as usual

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Who said anything about a recovery? OH that's right the democrats.

They sure are having fun manipulating the Federal Reserve and the Market. Maybe it's time for some Auditing? Past Time? Shutting down Energy, Oil, Yeah, real promising, maybe only in Hijacking a Republic, but Yeah, real promising. Let's all invest everything in Wind and how about recycled food while we are at it. Shit Yeah!!! Let's start with all of the Government Pension Funds. One Thing, no more bail outs for piss poor investments of the Privileged Untouchable Class, in the dime of the rest of us.

so the stock market hasnt gone from 7000 to nearly 13000 while Obama has been in the WH and the Dems have had control of government?

got facts are hard for the right to comprehend as usual

So the only time the stock market should be used is when it shows to be favorible to one side or the other? The stock market is not a good indicator of a healthy economy.
Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) -DJI
12,977.57 v -2.73(0.02%)

http://finance.yahoo.com/marketupdate/overview

 

[Intense]

Who said anything about a recovery? OH that's right the democrats.

They sure are having fun manipulating the Federal Reserve and the Market. Maybe it's time for some Auditing? Past Time? Shutting down Energy, Oil, Yeah, real promising, maybe only in Hijacking a Republic, but Yeah, real promising. Let's all invest everything in Wind and how about recycled food while we are at it. Shit Yeah!!! Let's start with all of the Government Pension Funds. One Thing, no more bail outs for piss poor investments of the Privileged Untouchable Class, in the dime of the rest of us.

so the stock market hasnt gone from 7000 to nearly 13000 while Obama has been in the WH and the Dems have had control of government?

got facts are hard for the right to comprehend as usual

I wish Anyone Luck trying to reason what is going on in the Market today. Energy costs rising, Fuel and Transportation rising, Government Salaries and Compensation rising, great formula for success. Hows that Government debt doing again? I am so impressed. You have never been more right.

 

[Syphon]

They sure are having fun manipulating the Federal Reserve and the Market. Maybe it's time for some Auditing? Past Time? Shutting down Energy, Oil, Yeah, real promising, maybe only in Hijacking a Republic, but Yeah, real promising. Let's all invest everything in Wind and how about recycled food while we are at it. Shit Yeah!!! Let's start with all of the Government Pension Funds. One Thing, no more bail outs for piss poor investments of the Privileged Untouchable Class, in the dime of the rest of us.

so the stock market hasnt gone from 7000 to nearly 13000 while Obama has been in the WH and the Dems have had control of government?

got facts are hard for the right to comprehend as usual

I wish Anyone Luck trying to reason what is going on in the Market today. Energy costs rising, Fuel and Transportation rising, Government Salaries and Compensation rising, great formula for success. Hows that Government debt doing again? I am so impressed. You have never been more right.

which party was the one that walked away from the negotiating table and a potential $4T deal? ill give you a hint.... its was the Dems...

 

[snakedoc]

So if Wall street and the Stock Market do better under Democrats wouldn't that make them the party of the one percent?

 

[Syphon]

So if Wall street and the Stock Market do better under Democrats wouldn't that make them the party of the one percent?

yes and no, since the dems are also for regulating wall street as well as higher taxes on the wealthy.
it would seem to me that having those regulations in place actually stimulates the markets as opposed to the GOP position that regulations hurt the market.

also when the overall market does better, ordinary people also benefit through their 401(k)'s IRA and other retirement vehicles.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yet when the gop holds the whitehouse Wallstreet is considered evil.

Hack

That's because Republicans don't regulate it, and they create Ponzi schemes.

See Bush, George W.

Ponzi schemes? Where?