CDZ ST. LOUIS RAMS COME OUT WITH 'HANDS UP, DON'T SHOOT' SALUTE

[Roadrunner]

Not the first time athletes have made social statements and that's their right.

Sadly, if football players had come out on the field wearing police insignia, RWs would be applauding.

Sorry, no applauding on my part, I don't think the work place is meant for demonstrations. IMHO

I don't think the football field and the national arena is the place to express personal opinions.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Not the first time athletes have made social statements and that's their right.

Sadly, if football players had come out on the field wearing police insignia, RWs would be applauding.

Sorry, no applauding on my part, I don't think the work place is meant for demonstrations. IMHO

I don't think the football field and the national arena is the place to express personal opinions.

I think I'll bookmark this page.

 

[Pop23]

St. Louis Rams Come Out with 'Hands Up, Don't Shoot' Salute


While taking the field today to play the Oakland Raiders, several St. Louis Rams players decided to mimic the 'Hands Up, Don't Shoot' gesture used by many protesters since the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown by police officer Darren Wilson in nearby Ferguson, Mo. in August.


Despite winning the game, 52-0, the Rams find themselves at the receiving end of fury from many in the fan base as evidenced by some of the comments posted at their Facebook page. This could be the most significant political statement made at a major sporting event since the 'Black Power' salute at the 1968 Sumner Olympics.

St. Louis Rams Come Out with Hands Up Don t Shoot Salute

I'm now a Rams fan! I think this country now needs an honest debate about police brutality, especially against black men and women.

Go Rams!

You're right. This country needs an "honest" debate about police brutality.

Let me know when one is started. This debate is really dishonest, based on lies and mob rule.

If we wait til the "perfect case" to talk about police brutality, seems that you really don't want to talk about it at all.

Or that it's actually pretty rare

 

[Papageorgio]

The five players involved have a right to their opinion, the NFL and the team will have to decide if they have a right to do it at a game. The St. Louis PD have a right to their opinion on what the players did, as does the rest of the world.

Usually the NFL frowns on this type behavior, they want football in the limelight, not social issues.

It's interesting that these players are revered as athletes and entertainers as long as they keep their mouths shut, but if they exercise their right of free speech, they are suddenly way out of line. What do people think, they exist only to entertaim but have no right to express themselves as other American citizens do?

They can express themselves. They have every right to.

However, the NFL usually frowns on this.

I have opinions, my employer doesn't expect or may not even want me to voice those opinions while he is paying me.

 

[jon_berzerk]

If I watched football I'd boycott.

same here

 

[Esmeralda]

The five players involved have a right to their opinion, the NFL and the team will have to decide if they have a right to do it at a game. The St. Louis PD have a right to their opinion on what the players did, as does the rest of the world.

Usually the NFL frowns on this type behavior, they want football in the limelight, not social issues.

It's interesting that these players are revered as athletes and entertainers as long as they keep their mouths shut, but if they exercise their right of free speech, they are suddenly way out of line. What do people think, they exist only to entertaim but have no right to express themselves as other American citizens do?

They can express themselves. They have every right to.

However, the NFL usually frowns on this.

I have opinions, my employer doesn't expect or may not even want me to voice those opinions while he is paying me.

This is pretty much the opposite of what the Right usually says, when it is something they want to protest against.

 

[Barb]

St. Louis Rams Come Out with 'Hands Up, Don't Shoot' Salute


While taking the field today to play the Oakland Raiders, several St. Louis Rams players decided to mimic the 'Hands Up, Don't Shoot' gesture used by many protesters since the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown by police officer Darren Wilson in nearby Ferguson, Mo. in August.


Despite winning the game, 52-0, the Rams find themselves at the receiving end of fury from many in the fan base as evidenced by some of the comments posted at their Facebook page. This could be the most significant political statement made at a major sporting event since the 'Black Power' salute at the 1968 Sumner Olympics.

St. Louis Rams Come Out with Hands Up Don t Shoot Salute

I'm now a Rams fan! I think this country now needs an honest debate about police brutality, especially against black men and women.

Go Rams!

I'm also now a fan for life!

 

[Mertex]

Grand Jury didn't indict. Looks like case closed to me.

It's not over till it's over.

U.S. Attorney Gen. Eric Holder Michael Brown Case Not Over

How is that investigation into George Zimmerman coming?

There will be no federal case against Darren Wilson and no civil case either.

There is one going on, you must not have understood the article, if you even read it.

In response to the grand jury’s decision, Holder, head of the U.S. Department of Justice, released a statement tonight explaining that the Department of Justice has been investigating the case independently of the local police.

They probably won't charge Wilson with a crime, true, but at least some major changes to the way police do their job will be instituted so that any trigger happy cops won't be able to kill indiscriminately without consequences.

 

[Mertex]

I see nothing wrong with what the Rams players did. I spent over 20 years of my life to defend this country and the freedoms it allows.

What's wrong with NFL players exercising their opinion via free speech?

I heard from someone who was at the game and he said the crowd had a WTF moment and was caught off guard. People go to games (and pay thru the nose for it) as an escape from day to day BS. NFL players have a right to free speech but have an obligation to the league and fans to exercise proper decorum.

There was nothing improper about what they did. Kudos to them for having the balls to do what they did.

 

[Mertex]

Whatever. That's their right. Think '68 Olympics.


The most important thing is, they beat the Raiders. The only thing better than the Raiders losing is when the Raiders and Cowboys lose on the same day...


Sunday was a very good day...

Hey, I resent that remark.....the Cowboys rock!

 

[Mertex]

If I watched football I'd boycott.

I'm sure that would make them go bankrupt!...

 

[Mertex]

Not the first time athletes have made social statements and that's their right.

Sadly, if football players had come out on the field wearing police insignia, RWs would be applauding.

Sorry, no applauding on my part, I don't think the work place is meant for demonstrations. IMHO

I don't think the football field and the national arena is the place to express personal opinions.

It's a great place to do so.....millions get to see it.

 

[Mertex]

The five players involved have a right to their opinion, the NFL and the team will have to decide if they have a right to do it at a game. The St. Louis PD have a right to their opinion on what the players did, as does the rest of the world.

Usually the NFL frowns on this type behavior, they want football in the limelight, not social issues.

It's interesting that these players are revered as athletes and entertainers as long as they keep their mouths shut, but if they exercise their right of free speech, they are suddenly way out of line. What do people think, they exist only to entertaim but have no right to express themselves as other American citizens do?

They can express themselves. They have every right to.

However, the NFL usually frowns on this.

I have opinions, my employer doesn't expect or may not even want me to voice those opinions while he is paying me.

If you were bringing in as much money to your employer as these football players do, your employer would probably let you voice your opinion on a loudspeaker.....

 

[bodecea]

How sad that holding one's hands up is considered insulting by some.

 

[Papageorgio]

The five players involved have a right to their opinion, the NFL and the team will have to decide if they have a right to do it at a game. The St. Louis PD have a right to their opinion on what the players did, as does the rest of the world.

Usually the NFL frowns on this type behavior, they want football in the limelight, not social issues.

It's interesting that these players are revered as athletes and entertainers as long as they keep their mouths shut, but if they exercise their right of free speech, they are suddenly way out of line. What do people think, they exist only to entertaim but have no right to express themselves as other American citizens do?

They can express themselves. They have every right to.

However, the NFL usually frowns on this.

I have opinions, my employer doesn't expect or may not even want me to voice those opinions while he is paying me.

This is pretty much the opposite of what the Right usually says, when it is something they want to protest against.

Right, left who really cares. That is my opinion, and mine alone.

I do notice that the left wants announcers and talk show hosts fired all the time for what they say on the job, so I guess I see no difference from the left or the right in this matter. Just who or what you like and don't like.

I don't voice political opinions at work, it has a divisive effect at the work place. I want my staff unified and happy and agreeable. I won't talk religion at work, it is not relevant.

 

[Papageorgio]

The five players involved have a right to their opinion, the NFL and the team will have to decide if they have a right to do it at a game. The St. Louis PD have a right to their opinion on what the players did, as does the rest of the world.

Usually the NFL frowns on this type behavior, they want football in the limelight, not social issues.

It's interesting that these players are revered as athletes and entertainers as long as they keep their mouths shut, but if they exercise their right of free speech, they are suddenly way out of line. What do people think, they exist only to entertaim but have no right to express themselves as other American citizens do?

They can express themselves. They have every right to.

However, the NFL usually frowns on this.

I have opinions, my employer doesn't expect or may not even want me to voice those opinions while he is paying me.

If you were bringing in as much money to your employer as these football players do, your employer would probably let you voice your opinion on a loudspeaker.....

That is up to my employer, however I wouldn't say a word, politics could be divisive where I work and I want employees that like work and that get along, better atmosphere.

 

[B. Kidd]

The five players involved have a right to their opinion, the NFL and the team will have to decide if they have a right to do it at a game. The St. Louis PD have a right to their opinion on what the players did, as does the rest of the world.

Usually the NFL frowns on this type behavior, they want football in the limelight, not social issues.

It's interesting that these players are revered as athletes and entertainers as long as they keep their mouths shut, but if they exercise their right of free speech, they are suddenly way out of line. What do people think, they exist only to entertaim but have no right to express themselves as other American citizens do?

They can express themselves. They have every right to.

However, the NFL usually frowns on this.

I have opinions, my employer doesn't expect or may not even want me to voice those opinions while he is paying me.

This is pretty much the opposite of what the Right usually says, when it is something they want to protest against.

Right, left who really cares. That is my opinion, and mine alone.

I do notice that the left wants announcers and talk show hosts fired all the time for what they say on the job, so I guess I see no difference from the left or the right in this matter. Just who or what you like and don't like.

I don't voice political opinions at work, it has a divisive effect at the work place. I want my staff unified and happy and agreeable. I won't talk religion at work, it is not relevant.

.....and that makes common sense, except to the people that lack it!

 

[ABikerSailor]

I find it interesting that when the NFL teams show their support and solidarity for stuff like breast cancer awareness by wearing pink shoes and having pink ribbons on their uniform, everyone applauds because cancer is a bad thing and everyone is against it.

However.................when they show solidarity with the people of Ferguson and the needless deaths of many at the hands of police, everyone who disagrees with them say they should shut up and not exercise their right to free speech.

I guess it depends on if you agree with the cause or not that you'd be willing to allow NFL players to have opinions.

If they are allowed free speech in supporting causes, the players themselves should be allowed to choose what cause they support or don't.

If you're going to allow them free speech in support of cancer research, you have to allow them to exercise that same right in support of other causes as well.

Or..............get rid of the pink ribbons if you won't allow them to walk on the field with their hands up.

 

[Conservative65]

I find it interesting that when the NFL teams show their support and solidarity for stuff like breast cancer awareness by wearing pink shoes and having pink ribbons on their uniform, everyone applauds because cancer is a bad thing and everyone is against it.

However.................when they show solidarity with the people of Ferguson and the needless deaths of many at the hands of police, everyone who disagrees with them say they should shut up and not exercise their right to free speech.

I guess it depends on if you agree with the cause or not that you'd be willing to allow NFL players to have opinions.

If they are allowed free speech in supporting causes, the players themselves should be allowed to choose what cause they support or don't.

If you're going to allow them free speech in support of cancer research, you have to allow them to exercise that same right in support of other causes as well.

Or..............get rid of the pink ribbons if you won't allow them to walk on the field with their hands up.

They are showing solidarity for a thug that got what he asked for by his own actions. If they want to support a thug's actions, tells me they are just as much of a thug. I don't know anyone that asks for cancer but the thug asked for what he got. Big difference.

 

[Conservative65]

Since Mike Brown never put his hands up and said Don't Shoot, the Rams have been asked to apologize.

More than 50% of the witnesses said that he did put his hands up.

What do the newly released witness statements tell us about the Michael Brown shooting PBS NewsHour

• More than 50 percent of the witness statements said that Michael Brown held his hands up when Darren Wilson shot him. (16 out of 29 such statements)

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From PBS link:

• More than half of the witness statements said that Brown was running away from Wilson when the police officer opened fire on the 18-year-old, while fewer than one-fifth of such statements indicated that was not the case.

Speaks to the reliability of many of the witnesses. You cannot get shot in the front of the body when running away from the weapon.

Wilson fired at least 12 shots, only 6 hit Brown from 25' away. Trying to hit a moving target is harder than it looks.

25' away? There are posts on here today supporting the thug Brown claiming he was 148' away. It's not a wonder the GJ did what they did.