SS not responsible for AGR site

[kyzr]

Not true. They are responsible for a security assessment of the area and recommendations. Certain areas are left to State and Local PD. Investigations will bring light to this. USSS is in full blown CYA mode. Sources have been told agents are supposed to STFU if you want to keep your job.

Never happen.........you can't force people to do that.

I agree.

I don't think so..................this fiasco brings to mind the Biden administration's exit from Afghanistan.

1. Those "Certain areas" are certainly outside 130 yds from the stage. Why not use bulletproof glass for vulnerable lines of sight?

2. Agreed the SS is in CYA mode because they know their plot is about to be exposed.

3. If they want to stay employed they take a polygraph, period. My grandson takes them routinely.

4. It was obviously a setup plot to assassinate Trump. We just need to find out the players.

 

[the watcher]

I'm sure the up and coming hearings and investigation will provide insight for many who are misinformed.

Sure they will.

 

[whitehall]

Yeah right, the Secret Service wasn't responsible for the street in front of the book depository in Dallas either.

 

[Delldude]

Those "Certain areas" are certainly outside 130 yds from the stage.

You don't know that SS is responsible for those areas. Bongino is quite familiar with security, his assessment didn't include SS on that roof top, he claimed they should of put line of sight visual obstacles up to prevent a perp from having a visual line of sight from there.

If they want to stay employed they take a polygraph, period My grandson takes them routinely.

You actually think Cheatle wants people taking polygraphs? C'mon man.

It was obviously a setup plot to assassinate Trump. We just need to find out the players.

Don't buy it......classic Biden admin clusterphuck.

 

[Delldude]

Sure they will.

So I guess we should just skip them then.

Yeah right, the Secret Service wasn't responsible for the street in front of the book depository in Dallas either.

JFK told them to leave the dome in the garage......

 

[kyzr]

You don't know that SS is responsible for those areas. Bongino is quite familiar with security, his assessment didn't include SS on that roof top, he claimed they should of put line of sight visual obstacles up to prevent a perp from having a visual line of sight from there.

You actually think Cheatle wants people taking polygraphs? C'mon man.

Don't buy it......classic Biden admin clusterphuck.

1. I saw at least 10 ex-SS and other security experts say that roof had to be physically protected. Line of sight obstacles would have worked as well. Bullet proof glass as well. An open shot from an unprotected roof 130 yds away is an assassination setup.

2. Congress needs to force polygraphs and force Cheatle out, if Biden won't support it Congress can do the "investigation" early next year, including polygraphs.

3. The SS is not Biden. If Trump needs to start SS over so be it.

 

[Paleman]

Trump chose the fair ground.

Holly chit!!!!!!!!!!! The left is now telling us that Trump has a death wish. That he is responsible for the unsecured location, and for the assassin who climbed a slanted roof. The same roof that the SS deemed a health hazard for its personnel. That DEI bitch has got to go.

 

[Delldude]

Holly chit!!!!!!!!!!! The left is now telling us that Trump has a death wish. That he is responsible for the unsecured location, and for the assassin who climbed a slanted roof. The same roof that the SS deemed a health hazard for its personnel. That DEI bitch has got to go.

None of this would have happened if the left would have succeeded in putting Trump in jail.

Or

It's Trump fault for running for president.

 

[Delldude]

I saw at least 10 ex-SS and other security experts say that roof had to be physically protected. Line of sight obstacles would have worked as well. Bullet proof glass as well. An open shot from an unprotected roof 130 yds away is an assassination setup.

OK, by who? From what has been said, SS does a security assessment of the area, coordinates with State and local, who are assigned/accept areas of responsibility. From what I've heard and read, SS was responsible for the inner security and not the entire area, relying on S&L for backup. It looks like somewhere along the line, coordination failed. S&L should have had spotters on the water tower.....lots of shoulda,woulda, coulda now.
Bongino discussed this the other day...He didn't mention anything about SS being responsible for the roof top, he did mention it was somebody's responsibility within the inner circle to deny line of sight access.
His daily podcasts are on Rumble for free and also live at 11am, I think. I catch him when I'm in the car usually.

The SS is not Biden. If Trump needs to start SS over so be it.

No but it is his administration and policies. I still say DEI policies have affected decisions, planning and operations.

Congress needs to force polygraphs and force Cheatle out, if Biden won't support it Congress can do the "investigation" early next year, including polygraphs.

5th amendment issue......I know where you're coming from. Only way would be impeachment and conviction, I'd bet my left nut dem,s wouldn't go there.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Not according to many current and ex-SS and people in the security venue.

I'm sure the up and coming hearings and investigation will provide insight for many who are misinformed.

no you're wrong again. The local chief of police said they were only in charge of traffic.

 

[Delldude]

no you're wrong again. The local chief of police said they were only in charge of traffic.

I said local and state would be assigned areas of responsibility. Duh....

 

[kyzr]

OK, by who? From what has been said, SS does a security assessment of the area, coordinates with State and local, who are assigned/accept areas of responsibility. From what I've heard and read, SS was responsible for the inner security and not the entire area, relying on S&L for backup. It looks like somewhere along the line, coordination failed. S&L should have had spotters on the water tower.....lots of shoulda,woulda, coulda now.
Bongino discussed this the other day...He didn't mention anything about SS being responsible for the roof top, he did mention it was somebody's responsibility within the inner circle to deny line of sight access.
His daily podcasts are on Rumble for free and also live at 11am, I think. I catch him when I'm in the car usually.

No but it is his administration and policies. I still say DEI policies have affected decisions, planning and operations.

5th amendment issue......I know where you're coming from. Only way would be impeachment and conviction, I'd bet my left nut dem,s wouldn't go there.

1. Responsibilities will come out during the investigations. The roof vulnerability appears to be deliberate.

2. There is no 5th amendment issue. Polygraphs are routinely used, my grandson takes them. The SS needs to take them, period. If anyone takes the 5th, why would they do that? Think hard. Most would gladly prove their innocence.

3. Looking for another shooter? Look at the vapor trail from Trump's ear. Is it level or sloped? If the SS was in the building on the 1st floor, where did the "kill shot" come from? The roof or the 1st floor? Do the "Magic Bullet" math to the victims in the bleachers.

 

[Delldude]

Responsibilities will come out during the investigations. The roof vulnerability appears to be deliberate.

That's why we should wait for more information instead of speculation. SS has already stated they owned the inner perimeter. I think it's negligence and not deliberate.

If the SS was in the building on the 1st floor, where did the "kill shot" come from? The roof or the 1st floor? Do the "Magic Bullet" math to the victims in the bleachers.

Being as the SS snipers that not many have seen, dropped the dude immediately as he shot.....that would be a good start. I'm sure the ballistic trajectories have been looked at extensively.

There is no 5th amendment issue. Polygraphs are routinely used, my grandson takes them. The SS needs to take them, period. If anyone takes the 5th, why would they do that? Think hard. Most would gladly prove their innocence.

Bongino's sources inside SS have told him agents are supposed to STFU if they want to keep their jobs. I doubt anything extraordinary will come out unless some one blows the whistle.....I don't see SS brass ordering polygraphs.
You realize this is a campaign busting event on the level of TWA 700? Cheatle is already in the CYA mode.

no you're wrong again. The local chief of police said they were only in charge of traffic.

So the cop who was trying to get on the roof to engage the sniper was directing traffic?

 

[kyzr]

That's why we should wait for more information instead of speculation. SS has already stated they owned the inner perimeter. I think it's negligence and not deliberate.

Being as the SS snipers that not many have seen, dropped the dude immediately as he shot.....that would be a good start. I'm sure the ballistic trajectories have been looked at extensively.

Bongino's sources inside SS have told him agents are supposed to STFU if they want to keep their jobs. I doubt anything extraordinary will come out unless some one blows the whistle.....I don't see SS brass ordering polygraphs.
You realize this is a campaign busting event on the level of TWA 700? Cheatle is already in the CYA mode.

So the cop who was trying to get on the roof to engage the sniper was directing traffic?

1. After being briefed Senator Barasso said they spotted the "suspicious" person with a range finder and backpack before the rally, but lost sight of him. In addition to the range finder he had some kind of transmitter. Why would he need a transmitter?

2. I'm sure the ballistics are being examined in Quantico. The trajectories would need precise surveyors and 3D plots.

3. Why would SS agents be told to STFU instead of to cooperate fully with the investigations? If the president orders polygraphs, or congress orders polygraphs, or the FBI orders polygraphs, they should happen over Cheatle's whining. TWA-700 was a bomb on a plane, or a Stinger shot from a boat. The official explanation was a spark in a full fuel tank. A lie.

4. People were screaming for cops to check out the shooter. One cop boosted another cop up to see and the shooter pointed the gun at him, so he dropped to the ground and called it in. The top local cop just said on TV that local law enforcement was NOT responsible for those buildings.

 

[leftwinger]

How about drones?

This was a slapped together security op that failed miserably.

Batteries don't last.

 

[Paleman]

OK, by who? From what has been said, SS does a security assessment of the area, coordinates with State and local, who are assigned/accept areas of responsibility. From what I've heard and read, SS was responsible for the inner security and not the entire area, relying on S&L for backup. It looks like somewhere along the line, coordination failed. S&L should have had spotters on the water tower.....lots of shoulda,woulda, coulda now.
Bongino discussed this the other day...He didn't mention anything about SS being responsible for the roof top, he did mention it was somebody's responsibility within the inner circle to deny line of sight access.
His daily podcasts are on Rumble for free and also live at 11am, I think. I catch him when I'm in the car usually.

No but it is his administration and policies. I still say DEI policies have affected decisions, planning and operations.

5th amendment issue......I know where you're coming from. Only way would be impeachment and conviction, I'd bet my left nut dem,s wouldn't go there.

Delldude, what the hell is wrong with you? You're so anxious to blame somebody, anybody but Biden and his administration and the Secret Service, that you completely ignore the fact that the SS cannot delegate the protection for the President without OVERSIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE SS cannot just turn a blind eye and claim it is not their responsibility when something goes wrong. If they wanted local police to guard that building, it was their responsibility to ensure it was done. It wasn't, she needs to be fired for dereliction of duty.

 

[Delldude]

Delldude, what the hell is wrong with you? You're so anxious to blame somebody, anybody but Biden and his administration and the Secret Service, that you completely ignore the fact that the SS cannot delegate the protection for the President without OVERSIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE SS cannot just turn a blind eye and claim it is not their responsibility when something goes wrong. If they wanted local police to guard that building, it was their responsibility to ensure it was done. It wasn't, she needs to be fired for dereliction of duty.

You're saying the same thing I have.....................try reading comprehension.

 

[Delldude]

After being briefed Senator Barasso said they spotted the "suspicious" person with a range finder and backpack before the rally, but lost sight of him. In addition to the range finder he had some kind of transmitter. Why would he need a transmitter?

These reports change daily. SS supposedly reported a suspicious person at an entry point with a rangefinder. Then later, the same person had a backpack. Now there's footage of him standing around in the background.




Some kind of transmitter.......? Phone? Now they think he had two phones. Odds are he stashed the weapon prior to Saturday......how else would he get it in.
As of last night, this guy was noted as suspicious some three hours before Trump spoke.................something like ten minutes before Trump took the stage, he was ID'd as a threat....yet they allowed Trump to take the stage. WTF?

The top local cop just said on TV that local law enforcement was NOT responsible for those buildings.

What is local law enforcement then? Cheatle claims they couldn't go on the roof because of the pitch, then someone else says SS only responsible for the inner perimeter. Tell me who's right?

Why would SS agents be told to STFU instead of to cooperate fully with the investigations?

Talking to the media.

If the president orders polygraphs, or congress orders polygraphs, or the FBI orders polygraphs, they should happen over Cheatle's whining.

Isn't going to happen. Order polygraphs to expose the gross incompetence of the Biden administration, DHS, and USSS?

 

[Paleman]

You're saying the same thing I have.....................try reading comprehension.

I will do that right after you attempt to be more succinct in your posts so that there is no misunderstanding of your position.

 

[Delldude]

I will do that right after you attempt to be more succinct in your posts so that there is no misunderstanding of your position.

Want me to cc you in before posting?