SPLC calls Army bases confederate monuments that must be taken down

[Montrovant]

How 'bout a bridge? Wanna buy a bridge? I can put it AS A HEADLINE

 

[Spare_change]

US Military bases named after traitorous Confederate generals should and will be renamed. It will take time. But it will come.

I never understood why all of our major Army bases need to be named after Confederate Generals. Some of who are relatively obscure......Ft Lee, Ft Hood, Ft Stewart, Ft Gordon, Ft A P Hill, Ft Bragg
All named after Generals in a losing cause fighting AGAINST our nation

In the 150 years since the Civil War, we have had numerous Generals more deserving of having a fort named after them
Eisenhower, Marshall, MacArthur, Patton, Bradley, Pershing....all more deserving than our Confederate Generals, none having a fort named after them

... but ... but ....

You don't think it's possible that those forts were established BEFORE your list of WWII generals?

Let us not forget - as well - those "Confederate" generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces, prior to the Civil War. Let us not forget - as well - most of those "Confederate" generals were graduates of the US Military Academy, and long standing and respected members of the military community. Let us not forget that one of the reasons was to put the divisions of the Civil War behind us, and to join in the reunification of the states.

You have forgotten - or never learned - the lessons of the Civil War. Perhaps, a history course is in your future.

 

[Pogo]

How many Americans know who John Gordon, John Bell Hood, AP Hill or Braxton Bragg were?

What is worthy in their service to destroy the union that warrants an Army Fort after 150 years?

Or Edmond Rucker or Leonidas Polk....

>> It’s tough to top the historical amnesia that has let the Confederate flag fly over the South Carolina capitol for more than half a century. But the U.S. Army certainly can give Columbia’s banner a run for its money: it operates posts named for nine Confederate generals and a colonel, including the head of its army, the reputed Georgia chief of the Ku Klux Klan and the commander whose troops fired the first shots of the Civil War.

.... “unsolicited suggestions for names were also submitted from sources outside the military establishment, and political pressure and public opinion often influenced the naming decision,” the Army says in its history of naming Army installations. “As a result, it was common for camps and forts to be named after local features or veterans with a regional connection. In the southern states they were frequently named after celebrated Confederate soldiers.” << --- Time, the magazine Rump thought important enough to counterfeit​

Check out this pattern:

Camp Beauregard (LA) -established 1917
Ft. Gordon (Georgia) - established 1917
Ft. Bragg (NC) - established 1918
Ft. Lee (VA) - established 1917*​

* Fort Lee New Jersey, hometown of Gilda Radner's "Mr. Richard Fader", is named for an officer who actually fought for the US in the Revolutionary War

 

[Pogo]

US Military bases named after traitorous Confederate generals should and will be renamed. It will take time. But it will come.

I never understood why all of our major Army bases need to be named after Confederate Generals. Some of who are relatively obscure......Ft Lee, Ft Hood, Ft Stewart, Ft Gordon, Ft A P Hill, Ft Bragg
All named after Generals in a losing cause fighting AGAINST our nation

In the 150 years since the Civil War, we have had numerous Generals more deserving of having a fort named after them
Eisenhower, Marshall, MacArthur, Patton, Bradley, Pershing....all more deserving than our Confederate Generals, none having a fort named after them

... but ... but ....

You don't think it's possible that those forts were established BEFORE your list of WWII generals?

Let us not forget - as well - those "Confederate" generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces, prior to the Civil War. Let us not forget - as well - most of those "Confederate" generals were graduates of the US Military Academy, and long standing and respected members of the military community. Let us not forget that one of the reasons was to put the divisions of the Civil War behind us, and to join in the reunification of the states.

You have forgotten - or never learned - the lessons of the Civil War. Perhaps, a history course is in your future.

I thought the lesson was which sides won and lost. If all that's deemed worthy is "reputable and capable" or that "they served proudly and herocially for their side" then--- what the fuck is the point of having a war at all?

Bottom line still is, when politicians and power brokers start wars, it's the people in their territories who pay the highest price. Perhaps, a history course on the Lost Cause movement should be in your own future.

 

[rightwinger]

US Military bases named after traitorous Confederate generals should and will be renamed. It will take time. But it will come.

I never understood why all of our major Army bases need to be named after Confederate Generals. Some of who are relatively obscure......Ft Lee, Ft Hood, Ft Stewart, Ft Gordon, Ft A P Hill, Ft Bragg
All named after Generals in a losing cause fighting AGAINST our nation

In the 150 years since the Civil War, we have had numerous Generals more deserving of having a fort named after them
Eisenhower, Marshall, MacArthur, Patton, Bradley, Pershing....all more deserving than our Confederate Generals, none having a fort named after them

... but ... but ....

You don't think it's possible that those forts were established BEFORE your list of WWII generals?

Let us not forget - as well - those "Confederate" generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces, prior to the Civil War. Let us not forget - as well - most of those "Confederate" generals were graduates of the US Military Academy, and long standing and respected members of the military community. Let us not forget that one of the reasons was to put the divisions of the Civil War behind us, and to join in the reunification of the states.

You have forgotten - or never learned - the lessons of the Civil War. Perhaps, a history course is in your future.

Let us not forget - as well - most of those "Confederate" generals were graduates of the US Military Academy, and long standing and respected members of the military community.

Talk about historical revisionism....you left out the part where they renounced their vow to protect the United States and took up arms against it

These men were minor Generals in the losing side of the Civil War. The need to honor their treason is long past.
Lets name our Army forts to honor REAL Generals who fought FOR our country instead of against it

 

[rightwinger]

How many Americans know who John Gordon, John Bell Hood, AP Hill or Braxton Bragg were?

What is worthy in their service to destroy the union that warrants an Army Fort after 150 years?

Or Edmond Rucker or Leonidas Polk....

>> It’s tough to top the historical amnesia that has let the Confederate flag fly over the South Carolina capitol for more than half a century. But the U.S. Army certainly can give Columbia’s banner a run for its money: it operates posts named for nine Confederate generals and a colonel, including the head of its army, the reputed Georgia chief of the Ku Klux Klan and the commander whose troops fired the first shots of the Civil War.

.... “unsolicited suggestions for names were also submitted from sources outside the military establishment, and political pressure and public opinion often influenced the naming decision,” the Army says in its history of naming Army installations. “As a result, it was common for camps and forts to be named after local features or veterans with a regional connection. In the southern states they were frequently named after celebrated Confederate soldiers.” << --- Time, the magazine Rump thought important enough to counterfeit​

Check out this pattern:

Camp Beauregard (LA) -established 1917
Ft. Gordon (Georgia) - established 1917
Ft. Bragg (NC) - established 1918
Ft. Lee (VA) - established 1917*​

* Fort Lee New Jersey, hometown of Gilda Radner's "Mr. Richard Fader", is named for an officer who actually fought for the US in the Revolutionary War

Those were prime years for the KKK

 

[Call Sign Chaos]

1) Alex Jones is a lying asshole milking his listeners for money.

2) While the quote exists on the SPLC website, I don't see where it seeks to remove 3 Army bases: Send a letter: It's time to take down Confederate monuments

3) IMHO, this who meme of attacking Confederate monuments is stupid and, in a year or so, most Americans will give backlash to the stupidity of tearing down every memorial which had a racist founder in it.

Lol the title is literally time to take down the confederate monuments and they linked a list which included the army bases.

Again for the Morons ---- and we did this days ago the first time this was posted ---- the link says, quote, "Please send a Letter to the Editor to your local newspaper to take down or rename

Your own link title proves that you are a lying whore: Send a letter: It's time to take down Confederate monuments

Where do you see the word "rename," in that title you stupid bitch?

Are you such a wallowing fucktard that you believe headlines, Spunky?

I quoted directly from the SPLC page, VERBATIM.

No I'm quoting verbatim from the SPLC page:

Send a letter: It's time to take down Confederate monuments

More than 1,500 Confederate symbols stand in communities like Charlottesville with the potential to unleash more turmoil and bloodshed.

It's time to take the monuments down.

Now where do you see the word "names," there you fucking liar?

 

[Spare_change]

US Military bases named after traitorous Confederate generals should and will be renamed. It will take time. But it will come.

I never understood why all of our major Army bases need to be named after Confederate Generals. Some of who are relatively obscure......Ft Lee, Ft Hood, Ft Stewart, Ft Gordon, Ft A P Hill, Ft Bragg
All named after Generals in a losing cause fighting AGAINST our nation

In the 150 years since the Civil War, we have had numerous Generals more deserving of having a fort named after them
Eisenhower, Marshall, MacArthur, Patton, Bradley, Pershing....all more deserving than our Confederate Generals, none having a fort named after them

... but ... but ....

You don't think it's possible that those forts were established BEFORE your list of WWII generals?

Let us not forget - as well - those "Confederate" generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces, prior to the Civil War. Let us not forget - as well - most of those "Confederate" generals were graduates of the US Military Academy, and long standing and respected members of the military community. Let us not forget that one of the reasons was to put the divisions of the Civil War behind us, and to join in the reunification of the states.

You have forgotten - or never learned - the lessons of the Civil War. Perhaps, a history course is in your future.

I thought the lesson was which sides won and lost. If all that's deemed worthy is "they served proudly and herocially for their side" then--- what the fuck is the point of having a war at all?

Bottom line still is, when politicians and power brokers start wars, it's the people in their territories who pay the highest price.

That's right ... "you thought" ... that's my point. You thought wrong ...

It isn't the question of the war and who won or lost .... it was a question of how we rebuild the union, how we cure the wounds, and how we cover the scars. Even today, we are still reeling from the impact.

You choose to intentionally misinterpret what I said ... "generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces.. " They were honorable and capable US Army officers. I said nothing about their service to the Confederate Army. But, you choose to misrepresent what was said in order to try to prejudice the discussion.. Frankly, if your points aren't strong enough to stand on their own, I'm pretty sure covering them in lies ain't gonna get it done.

As usual, in your rush to claim "victory" and laud it over others ... you ignore the real impact and how the leaders of this country chose to heal the wounds of the Civil War. You do remember, of course, that the Confederate soldiers were intentionally not charged with war crimes or prosecuted for their actions - all a part of the effort to heal the divisions.

Quit being so simplistic ...

 

[Spare_change]

US Military bases named after traitorous Confederate generals should and will be renamed. It will take time. But it will come.

I never understood why all of our major Army bases need to be named after Confederate Generals. Some of who are relatively obscure......Ft Lee, Ft Hood, Ft Stewart, Ft Gordon, Ft A P Hill, Ft Bragg
All named after Generals in a losing cause fighting AGAINST our nation

In the 150 years since the Civil War, we have had numerous Generals more deserving of having a fort named after them
Eisenhower, Marshall, MacArthur, Patton, Bradley, Pershing....all more deserving than our Confederate Generals, none having a fort named after them

... but ... but ....

You don't think it's possible that those forts were established BEFORE your list of WWII generals?

Let us not forget - as well - those "Confederate" generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces, prior to the Civil War. Let us not forget - as well - most of those "Confederate" generals were graduates of the US Military Academy, and long standing and respected members of the military community. Let us not forget that one of the reasons was to put the divisions of the Civil War behind us, and to join in the reunification of the states.

You have forgotten - or never learned - the lessons of the Civil War. Perhaps, a history course is in your future.

Lacking any substantive response, you choose to resort to a sophomoric little smiley face?

How childish.

 

[Pogo]

How many Americans know who John Gordon, John Bell Hood, AP Hill or Braxton Bragg were?

What is worthy in their service to destroy the union that warrants an Army Fort after 150 years?

Or Edmond Rucker or Leonidas Polk....

>> It’s tough to top the historical amnesia that has let the Confederate flag fly over the South Carolina capitol for more than half a century. But the U.S. Army certainly can give Columbia’s banner a run for its money: it operates posts named for nine Confederate generals and a colonel, including the head of its army, the reputed Georgia chief of the Ku Klux Klan and the commander whose troops fired the first shots of the Civil War.

.... “unsolicited suggestions for names were also submitted from sources outside the military establishment, and political pressure and public opinion often influenced the naming decision,” the Army says in its history of naming Army installations. “As a result, it was common for camps and forts to be named after local features or veterans with a regional connection. In the southern states they were frequently named after celebrated Confederate soldiers.” << --- Time, the magazine Rump thought important enough to counterfeit​

Check out this pattern:

Camp Beauregard (LA) -established 1917
Ft. Gordon (Georgia) - established 1917
Ft. Bragg (NC) - established 1918
Ft. Lee (VA) - established 1917*​

* Fort Lee New Jersey, hometown of Gilda Radner's "Mr. Richard Fader", is named for an officer who actually fought for the US in the Revolutionary War

Those were prime years for the KKK

Yyyyep, the Klan got rekindled two years earlier, "Birth of a Nation" also two years earlier, "The Clansman", the novel and then play that begat the film, twelve years earlier, and the whole Lost Cause movement was feverishly writing other books, plays, minstrel show music --- and all those statues and monuments and plaques and markers that are now under review were feverishly being put up, hundreds of them, primarily by the Daughters of the Confederacy.. All in the same era, and all related. A year after that the "Red Summer" brought the most intense period of race riots this country has ever had, and in two more years the Tulsa Race Riot wiped the "Black Wall Street" community of Greenwood Oklahoma completely off the map.

Oh and at the same time Woodrow Wilson, who grew up around Augusta Georgia (right next to what is now Fort Gordon, named after the reputed head of the Georgia Klan) was segregating federal offices including the military. And the barbaric practice of lynching was in its most infamous rampancy, complete with souvenir postcards and body parts. Souvenir body parts.

Now that's an effective propaganda campaign. And they didn't even have television.

 

[Spare_change]

How many Americans know who John Gordon, John Bell Hood, AP Hill or Braxton Bragg were?

What is worthy in their service to destroy the union that warrants an Army Fort after 150 years?

Or Edmond Rucker or Leonidas Polk....

>> It’s tough to top the historical amnesia that has let the Confederate flag fly over the South Carolina capitol for more than half a century. But the U.S. Army certainly can give Columbia’s banner a run for its money: it operates posts named for nine Confederate generals and a colonel, including the head of its army, the reputed Georgia chief of the Ku Klux Klan and the commander whose troops fired the first shots of the Civil War.

.... “unsolicited suggestions for names were also submitted from sources outside the military establishment, and political pressure and public opinion often influenced the naming decision,” the Army says in its history of naming Army installations. “As a result, it was common for camps and forts to be named after local features or veterans with a regional connection. In the southern states they were frequently named after celebrated Confederate soldiers.” << --- Time, the magazine Rump thought important enough to counterfeit​

Check out this pattern:

Camp Beauregard (LA) -established 1917
Ft. Gordon (Georgia) - established 1917
Ft. Bragg (NC) - established 1918
Ft. Lee (VA) - established 1917*​

* Fort Lee New Jersey, hometown of Gilda Radner's "Mr. Richard Fader", is named for an officer who actually fought for the US in the Revolutionary War

Those were prime years for the KKK

Yyyyep, the Klan got rekindled two years earlier, "Birth of a Nation" also two years earlier, "The Clansman", the novel and then play that begat the film, twelve years earlier, and the whole Lost Cause movement was feverishly writing other books, plays, minstrel show music --- and all those statues and monuments and plaques and markers that are now under review were feverishly being put up, hundreds of them, primarily by the Daughters of the Confederacy.. All in the same era, and all related. A year after that the "Red Summer brought the most intense period of race riots this country has ever had, and in two more years the Tulsa Race Riot wiped the "Black Wall Street" community of Greenwood Oklahoma completely off the map.

Now that's an effective propaganda campaign. And they didn't even have television.

Ludicrious ... but then, just like stupid opinions, everyone is allowed their own perversion of history.

 

[Pogo]

US Military bases named after traitorous Confederate generals should and will be renamed. It will take time. But it will come.

I never understood why all of our major Army bases need to be named after Confederate Generals. Some of who are relatively obscure......Ft Lee, Ft Hood, Ft Stewart, Ft Gordon, Ft A P Hill, Ft Bragg
All named after Generals in a losing cause fighting AGAINST our nation

In the 150 years since the Civil War, we have had numerous Generals more deserving of having a fort named after them
Eisenhower, Marshall, MacArthur, Patton, Bradley, Pershing....all more deserving than our Confederate Generals, none having a fort named after them

... but ... but ....

You don't think it's possible that those forts were established BEFORE your list of WWII generals?

Let us not forget - as well - those "Confederate" generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces, prior to the Civil War. Let us not forget - as well - most of those "Confederate" generals were graduates of the US Military Academy, and long standing and respected members of the military community. Let us not forget that one of the reasons was to put the divisions of the Civil War behind us, and to join in the reunification of the states.

You have forgotten - or never learned - the lessons of the Civil War. Perhaps, a history course is in your future.

I thought the lesson was which sides won and lost. If all that's deemed worthy is "they served proudly and herocially for their side" then--- what the fuck is the point of having a war at all?

Bottom line still is, when politicians and power brokers start wars, it's the people in their territories who pay the highest price.

That's right ... "you thought" ... that's my point. You thought wrong ...

It isn't the question of the war and who won or lost .... it was a question of how we rebuild the union, how we cure the wounds, and how we cover the scars. Even today, we are still reeling from the impact.

You choose to intentionally misinterpret what I said ... "generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces.. " They were honorable and capable US Army officers. I said nothing about their service to the Confederate Army. But, you choose to misrepresent what was said in order to try to prejudice the discussion.. Frankly, if your points aren't strong enough to stand on their own, I'm pretty sure covering them in lies ain't gonna get it done.

As usual, in your rush to claim "victory" and laud it over others ... you ignore the real impact and how the leaders of this country chose to heal the wounds of the Civil War. You do remember, of course, that the Confederate soldiers were intentionally not charged with war crimes or prosecuted for their actions - all a part of the effort to heal the divisions.

Quit being so simplistic ...

It's your own words dood. I pointed out the flaw in them. Get yourself a tissue and move on.

 

[Pogo]

How many Americans know who John Gordon, John Bell Hood, AP Hill or Braxton Bragg were?

What is worthy in their service to destroy the union that warrants an Army Fort after 150 years?

Or Edmond Rucker or Leonidas Polk....

>> It’s tough to top the historical amnesia that has let the Confederate flag fly over the South Carolina capitol for more than half a century. But the U.S. Army certainly can give Columbia’s banner a run for its money: it operates posts named for nine Confederate generals and a colonel, including the head of its army, the reputed Georgia chief of the Ku Klux Klan and the commander whose troops fired the first shots of the Civil War.

.... “unsolicited suggestions for names were also submitted from sources outside the military establishment, and political pressure and public opinion often influenced the naming decision,” the Army says in its history of naming Army installations. “As a result, it was common for camps and forts to be named after local features or veterans with a regional connection. In the southern states they were frequently named after celebrated Confederate soldiers.” << --- Time, the magazine Rump thought important enough to counterfeit​

Check out this pattern:

Camp Beauregard (LA) -established 1917
Ft. Gordon (Georgia) - established 1917
Ft. Bragg (NC) - established 1918
Ft. Lee (VA) - established 1917*​

* Fort Lee New Jersey, hometown of Gilda Radner's "Mr. Richard Fader", is named for an officer who actually fought for the US in the Revolutionary War

Those were prime years for the KKK

Yyyyep, the Klan got rekindled two years earlier, "Birth of a Nation" also two years earlier, "The Clansman", the novel and then play that begat the film, twelve years earlier, and the whole Lost Cause movement was feverishly writing other books, plays, minstrel show music --- and all those statues and monuments and plaques and markers that are now under review were feverishly being put up, hundreds of them, primarily by the Daughters of the Confederacy.. All in the same era, and all related. A year after that the "Red Summer brought the most intense period of race riots this country has ever had, and in two more years the Tulsa Race Riot wiped the "Black Wall Street" community of Greenwood Oklahoma completely off the map.

Now that's an effective propaganda campaign. And they didn't even have television.

Ludicrious ... but then, just like stupid opinions, everyone is allowed their own perversion of history.

Lacking any substantive response, you choose to resort to a sophomoric little gainsay word "ludicrous"?

How childish.

Well now you just point out to the class anything I posted up there that is inaccurate, Spunkles.

Aaaaand GO.

 

[rightwinger]

US Military bases named after traitorous Confederate generals should and will be renamed. It will take time. But it will come.

I never understood why all of our major Army bases need to be named after Confederate Generals. Some of who are relatively obscure......Ft Lee, Ft Hood, Ft Stewart, Ft Gordon, Ft A P Hill, Ft Bragg
All named after Generals in a losing cause fighting AGAINST our nation

In the 150 years since the Civil War, we have had numerous Generals more deserving of having a fort named after them
Eisenhower, Marshall, MacArthur, Patton, Bradley, Pershing....all more deserving than our Confederate Generals, none having a fort named after them

... but ... but ....

You don't think it's possible that those forts were established BEFORE your list of WWII generals?

Let us not forget - as well - those "Confederate" generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces, prior to the Civil War. Let us not forget - as well - most of those "Confederate" generals were graduates of the US Military Academy, and long standing and respected members of the military community. Let us not forget that one of the reasons was to put the divisions of the Civil War behind us, and to join in the reunification of the states.

You have forgotten - or never learned - the lessons of the Civil War. Perhaps, a history course is in your future.

I thought the lesson was which sides won and lost. If all that's deemed worthy is "they served proudly and herocially for their side" then--- what the fuck is the point of having a war at all?

Bottom line still is, when politicians and power brokers start wars, it's the people in their territories who pay the highest price.

That's right ... "you thought" ... that's my point. You thought wrong ...

It isn't the question of the war and who won or lost .... it was a question of how we rebuild the union, how we cure the wounds, and how we cover the scars. Even today, we are still reeling from the impact.

You choose to intentionally misinterpret what I said ... "generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces.. " They were honorable and capable US Army officers. I said nothing about their service to the Confederate Army. But, you choose to misrepresent what was said in order to try to prejudice the discussion.. Frankly, if your points aren't strong enough to stand on their own, I'm pretty sure covering them in lies ain't gonna get it done.

As usual, in your rush to claim "victory" and laud it over others ... you ignore the real impact and how the leaders of this country chose to heal the wounds of the Civil War. You do remember, of course, that the Confederate soldiers were intentionally not charged with war crimes or prosecuted for their actions - all a part of the effort to heal the divisions.

Quit being so simplistic ...

Benedict Arnold was an honorable and capable general at one time too

Should we name an Army base after him too?

 

[Spare_change]

US Military bases named after traitorous Confederate generals should and will be renamed. It will take time. But it will come.

I never understood why all of our major Army bases need to be named after Confederate Generals. Some of who are relatively obscure......Ft Lee, Ft Hood, Ft Stewart, Ft Gordon, Ft A P Hill, Ft Bragg
All named after Generals in a losing cause fighting AGAINST our nation

In the 150 years since the Civil War, we have had numerous Generals more deserving of having a fort named after them
Eisenhower, Marshall, MacArthur, Patton, Bradley, Pershing....all more deserving than our Confederate Generals, none having a fort named after them

... but ... but ....

You don't think it's possible that those forts were established BEFORE your list of WWII generals?

Let us not forget - as well - those "Confederate" generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces, prior to the Civil War. Let us not forget - as well - most of those "Confederate" generals were graduates of the US Military Academy, and long standing and respected members of the military community. Let us not forget that one of the reasons was to put the divisions of the Civil War behind us, and to join in the reunification of the states.

You have forgotten - or never learned - the lessons of the Civil War. Perhaps, a history course is in your future.

I thought the lesson was which sides won and lost. If all that's deemed worthy is "they served proudly and herocially for their side" then--- what the fuck is the point of having a war at all?

Bottom line still is, when politicians and power brokers start wars, it's the people in their territories who pay the highest price.

That's right ... "you thought" ... that's my point. You thought wrong ...

It isn't the question of the war and who won or lost .... it was a question of how we rebuild the union, how we cure the wounds, and how we cover the scars. Even today, we are still reeling from the impact.

You choose to intentionally misinterpret what I said ... "generals were reputable and capable officers in the US military, who served proudly and heroically in the US forces.. " They were honorable and capable US Army officers. I said nothing about their service to the Confederate Army. But, you choose to misrepresent what was said in order to try to prejudice the discussion.. Frankly, if your points aren't strong enough to stand on their own, I'm pretty sure covering them in lies ain't gonna get it done.

As usual, in your rush to claim "victory" and laud it over others ... you ignore the real impact and how the leaders of this country chose to heal the wounds of the Civil War. You do remember, of course, that the Confederate soldiers were intentionally not charged with war crimes or prosecuted for their actions - all a part of the effort to heal the divisions.

Quit being so simplistic ...

It's your own words dood. I pointed out the flaw in them. Get yourself a tissue and move on.

That's it? You lie - intentionally - and then try to blow it off?

Grow up.

 

[Spare_change]

How many Americans know who John Gordon, John Bell Hood, AP Hill or Braxton Bragg were?

What is worthy in their service to destroy the union that warrants an Army Fort after 150 years?

Or Edmond Rucker or Leonidas Polk....

>> It’s tough to top the historical amnesia that has let the Confederate flag fly over the South Carolina capitol for more than half a century. But the U.S. Army certainly can give Columbia’s banner a run for its money: it operates posts named for nine Confederate generals and a colonel, including the head of its army, the reputed Georgia chief of the Ku Klux Klan and the commander whose troops fired the first shots of the Civil War.

.... “unsolicited suggestions for names were also submitted from sources outside the military establishment, and political pressure and public opinion often influenced the naming decision,” the Army says in its history of naming Army installations. “As a result, it was common for camps and forts to be named after local features or veterans with a regional connection. In the southern states they were frequently named after celebrated Confederate soldiers.” << --- Time, the magazine Rump thought important enough to counterfeit​

Check out this pattern:

Camp Beauregard (LA) -established 1917
Ft. Gordon (Georgia) - established 1917
Ft. Bragg (NC) - established 1918
Ft. Lee (VA) - established 1917*​

* Fort Lee New Jersey, hometown of Gilda Radner's "Mr. Richard Fader", is named for an officer who actually fought for the US in the Revolutionary War

Those were prime years for the KKK

Yyyyep, the Klan got rekindled two years earlier, "Birth of a Nation" also two years earlier, "The Clansman", the novel and then play that begat the film, twelve years earlier, and the whole Lost Cause movement was feverishly writing other books, plays, minstrel show music --- and all those statues and monuments and plaques and markers that are now under review were feverishly being put up, hundreds of them, primarily by the Daughters of the Confederacy.. All in the same era, and all related. A year after that the "Red Summer brought the most intense period of race riots this country has ever had, and in two more years the Tulsa Race Riot wiped the "Black Wall Street" community of Greenwood Oklahoma completely off the map.

Now that's an effective propaganda campaign. And they didn't even have television.

Ludicrious ... but then, just like stupid opinions, everyone is allowed their own perversion of history.

Lacking any substantive response, you choose to resort to a sophomoric little gainsay word "ludicrous"?

How childish.

Well now you just point out to the class anything I posted up there that is inaccurate, Spunkles.

Aaaaand GO.

You're the one who is trying to pervert history - not to mention historical context.

Frankly, we can get better from the local junior high.

You're right ---- "ludicrious" DOES seem to be exactly the right word.

 

[rightwinger]

Why would anyone object if forts named after John Bell Hood, John Gordon and Braxton Bragg were instead named after superior generals like Eisenhower, Patton and MacArthur?

 

[Pogo]

Or Edmond Rucker or Leonidas Polk....

>> It’s tough to top the historical amnesia that has let the Confederate flag fly over the South Carolina capitol for more than half a century. But the U.S. Army certainly can give Columbia’s banner a run for its money: it operates posts named for nine Confederate generals and a colonel, including the head of its army, the reputed Georgia chief of the Ku Klux Klan and the commander whose troops fired the first shots of the Civil War.

.... “unsolicited suggestions for names were also submitted from sources outside the military establishment, and political pressure and public opinion often influenced the naming decision,” the Army says in its history of naming Army installations. “As a result, it was common for camps and forts to be named after local features or veterans with a regional connection. In the southern states they were frequently named after celebrated Confederate soldiers.” << --- Time, the magazine Rump thought important enough to counterfeit​

Check out this pattern:

Camp Beauregard (LA) -established 1917
Ft. Gordon (Georgia) - established 1917
Ft. Bragg (NC) - established 1918
Ft. Lee (VA) - established 1917*​

* Fort Lee New Jersey, hometown of Gilda Radner's "Mr. Richard Fader", is named for an officer who actually fought for the US in the Revolutionary War

Those were prime years for the KKK

Yyyyep, the Klan got rekindled two years earlier, "Birth of a Nation" also two years earlier, "The Clansman", the novel and then play that begat the film, twelve years earlier, and the whole Lost Cause movement was feverishly writing other books, plays, minstrel show music --- and all those statues and monuments and plaques and markers that are now under review were feverishly being put up, hundreds of them, primarily by the Daughters of the Confederacy.. All in the same era, and all related. A year after that the "Red Summer brought the most intense period of race riots this country has ever had, and in two more years the Tulsa Race Riot wiped the "Black Wall Street" community of Greenwood Oklahoma completely off the map.

Now that's an effective propaganda campaign. And they didn't even have television.

Ludicrious ... but then, just like stupid opinions, everyone is allowed their own perversion of history.

Lacking any substantive response, you choose to resort to a sophomoric little gainsay word "ludicrous"?

How childish.

Well now you just point out to the class anything I posted up there that is inaccurate, Spunkles.

Aaaaand GO.

You're the one who is trying to pervert history - not to mention historical context.

Frankly, we can get better from the local junior high.

You're right ---- "ludicrious" DOES seem to be exactly the right word.

So you have no refutation at all. You concede my facts, yet want to cry the blues because you didn't have them.

What a surprise that is.

 

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Why would anyone object if forts named after John Bell Hood, John Gordon and Braxton Bragg were instead named after superior generals like Eisenhower, Patton and MacArthur?

Now I'd like to see a military installation named for Smedley Butler.

That would impart a dose of reality.

"My interest is, my one hobby is, maintaining a democracy. If you get these 500,000 soldiers advocating anything smelling of Fascism, I am going to get 500,000 more and lick the hell out of you, and we will have a real war right at home." Maj. Gen Smedley Butler USMC, Reply to Gerald MacGuire, after being asked to organize WWI veterans (for military support) in a fascist-coup of FDR, as related by Butler in testimony before Congress, 1934.

 

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SPLC calls Army bases ‘confederate monuments’ that must be ‘taken down’

The Southern Poverty Law Center has included three of the largest U.S. Army bases on their list of “Confederate monuments” with the “potential to unleash more turmoil and bloodshed” if liberal activists don’t “take them down.”
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Nothing like spreading stupidity among the already weak minds of America.
and the pathetic sheep that go right along with it. I can't wait until these ANTI AMERICAN PIGS begin to eat themselves alive with thier own bs and regret.
Then again some are to far gone to regret a thing.

no psycho.... that is what INFOWARS says. you have no idea what SPLC says.

it's so weird how psychotic illness can make you think the SPLC is bad and infowar is good.

kind of sad.