Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration

[Nostra]

Was due process given to any of the people sent to El Salvador?

Yes.

 

[struth]

Garcia.

Virtually any of the people sent to CECOT

Garcia deportation didn't violate the law, it did violate a court order in part, and the Admin has followed the SCOTUS order to fix it.

How were people El Salvador is holding in CECOT, get deported by not following the law? My understanding is they are sent there under this law: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title50/chapter3&edition=prelim

Show us were Trump Admin didn't follow it

 

[Lesh]

Wrapped the kids up like they were tacos.

Trump did that as a means of punishment… yes. Called it a deterrent

 

[Nostra]

Unless they were convicted criminals it was under Obama

Not so much with Trump

Link us up to their convictions.

 

[struth]

Courts and the Constitution require a bit more

No, they in fact don't....show us a Court ruling that law is unConstitutional, or that Congress doesn't have the authority to create it

 

[Lesh]

Garcia deportation didn't violate the law, it did violate a court order in part, and the Admin has followed the SCOTUS order to fix it.

How were people El Salvador is holding in CECOT, get deported by not following the law? My understanding is they are sent there under this law: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title50/chapter3&edition=prelim

Show us were Trump Admin didn't follow it

Your understanding is as always wrong

They were not given due process

 

[Nostra]

Trump did that as a means of punishment… yes. Called it a deterrent

Link?

Why did Barry do it, Kreskin?

 

[struth]

Your understanding is as always wrong

They were not given due process

Who wasn't? Show us when trump sent anyone there and didn't follow the due process requirements Congress put in place with that law

 

[Rawley]

The long term solution would be going after employers who hire illegals but no one actually interested in solving this.

But what Trump is doing is nowhere near what Obama did.

Obama actually focused on deporting criminal aliens.
And yes he deported many illegals at the border with only cursory “trials”.

Trump is doing that to ALL of them and NOT focusing on deporting criminals

all 5.3 illegals he deported were criminals? Really?

 

[Lesh]

The law does not require someone be convicted criminal to qualify for expedited removed, and Obama used expedited removal to deport people who were not criminals.

Exactly like Trump.

You seem confused.

Obama used expedited removal within 100 miles of the border unless the person was a convicted criminal

Trump is using it everywhere. And few of his deportees are convicted criminals

 

[M14 Shooter]

Courts and the Constitution require a bit more

The law defines the degree of due process someone requires.
That's why the the huge majority of Obama's deportees never went before a judge.

 

[Lesh]

Who wasn't? Show us when trump sent anyone there and didn't follow the due process requirements Congress put in place with that law

Regardless of Congress… due process is governed by the courts and the Constitution

 

[M14 Shooter]

You seem confused.

Not al all.
The law allows expedited removal of people apprehended everywhere in the US and is not limited to convicted criminals.
Obama used expedited removal for people apprehended everywhere in the US, and for people without criminal records.
Just like Trump.

 

[Nostra]

Your understanding is as always wrong

They were not given due process

Yep, they were.

 

[struth]

Regardless of Congress… due process is governed by the courts and the Constitution

Really where did they tell Trump how much due process to give criminal aliens? The courts haven’t ruled that law unconstitutional, so why shouldn’t Trump follow it?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It's DIFFERENT when the demented LEFT do it, don't you know.

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If you ignore the wiki-spin, this says most of what we need to know.

Signed into law by Sick Willie, nonetheless.

Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lesh]

Really where did they tell Trump how much due process to give criminal aliens? The courts haven’t ruled that law unconstitutional, so why shouldn’t Trump follow it?

The Supreme Court was pretty explicit

You know that. You don’t care.

 

[Lesh]

Not al all.
The law allows expedited removal of people apprehended everywhere in the US and is not limited to convicted criminals.
Obama used expedited removal for people apprehended everywhere in the US, and for people without criminal records.
Just like Trump.

Again… you claimed that theTrump policy was the same as the Obama policy. You just illustrated that it’s not.

Good job

 

[struth]

The Supreme Court was pretty explicit

You know that. You don’t care.

Really? About what? What did they explicatedly say

 

[Nostra]

Really? About what? What did they explicatedly say

You won’t get a coherent response.