Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration

[M14 Shooter]

It is absolutely relevant.

You know you cannot demonstrate this to be true.

 

[Lesh]

You know you cannot demonstrate this to be true.

Keep trolling asswipe.

If Trump dealt with deportations the way Obama did I would be ok with it. He’s not and you know it and everyone else knows it

 

[M14 Shooter]

If Trump dealt with deportations the way Obama did I would be ok with it.

Thus, you agree:

• You believe the current line from the left, that every deportee needs to see a judge, is wrong
• You believe Trump does NOT need to put every deportee in front of a judge before he can deport them;
• You believe in the vast majority of cases, a DHS or ICE official can make the deportation determination.

 

[Lesh]

Thus, you agree:

• You believe the current line from the left, that every deportee needs to see a judge, is wrong
• You believe Trump does NOT need to put every deportee in front of a judge before he can deport them;
• You believe in the vast majority of cases, a DHS or ICE official can make the deportation determination.

I do not. And if continue posting the same tired lies you will be reported AGAIN

 

[M14 Shooter]

I do not.

You're lying.
You said you fully agreed with the due process rules under Obama.
This must mean you agree...

• You believe the current line from the left, that every deportee needs to see a judge, is wrong
• You believe Trump does NOT need to put every deportee in front of a judge before he can deport them;
• You believe in the vast majority of cases, a DHS or ICE official can make the deportation determination.

And if continue posting the same tired lies you will be reported AGAIN

Aww.. boo-boo kitty cry wipe nose run to mods hide.

 

[Nostra]

Just gonna leave this here.
The left's double standard speaks for itself.
Trump should change policies to match that of the Obama administration, and make it known, at every turn, he's done so.

Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration | ACLU

www.aclu.org

The Obama administration has prioritized speed over fairness in the removal system, sacrificing individualized due process in the pursuit of record removal numbers.

The numbers are staggering: in 1995, 1,400 immigrants were subject to nonjudicial removals, representing 3 percent of total deportations. By FY 2012 that number had sharply increased to 313,000 nonjudicial removals – an all-time high.

Under today's removal system, only one quarter of all people facing expulsion get to present their case before an immigration judge. These judges, employed by the Justice Department, are experts in immigration law. They conduct formal court hearings where they hear live witnesses, review documentary evidence, and evaluate applications for immigration relief.

By contrast, nonjudicial removals are fast-track proceedings wholly controlled by the Department of Homeland Security ("DHS"), sometimes involving only a single border agent who acts as both judge and jury. Those facing nonjudicial removal have no lawyer and no chance to appeal.

That’s different……

 

[M14 Shooter]

That’s different……

During the Obama administration, the requirement for due process for ~75% of deportees was satisfied through a review by a DHS or ICE agent, who acted as both judge and jury.
No judge, no witnesses, no attorney, no appeal.
Most of these deportees were rounded up within 100 miles of the border and deported regardless of they were criminals or not.

Liberals like Lesh - who fully approve of the deportation means and methods of the Obama administration - would scream bloody murder if this happened under the Trump administration.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Just gonna leave this here.
The left's double standard speaks for itself.
Trump should change policies to match that of the Obama administration, and make it known, at every turn, he's done so.

Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration | ACLU

www.aclu.org

The Obama administration has prioritized speed over fairness in the removal system, sacrificing individualized due process in the pursuit of record removal numbers.

The numbers are staggering: in 1995, 1,400 immigrants were subject to nonjudicial removals, representing 3 percent of total deportations. By FY 2012 that number had sharply increased to 313,000 nonjudicial removals – an all-time high.

Under today's removal system, only one quarter of all people facing expulsion get to present their case before an immigration judge. These judges, employed by the Justice Department, are experts in immigration law. They conduct formal court hearings where they hear live witnesses, review documentary evidence, and evaluate applications for immigration relief.

By contrast, nonjudicial removals are fast-track proceedings wholly controlled by the Department of Homeland Security ("DHS"), sometimes involving only a single border agent who acts as both judge and jury. Those facing nonjudicial removal have no lawyer and no chance to appeal.

Progressive response: It's not a problem when a democrat does it and Orange Man Bad

 

[Lesh]

During the Obama administration, the requirement for due process for ~75% of deportees was satisfied through a review by a DHS or ICE agent, who acted as both judge and jury.
No judge, no witnesses, no attorney, no appeal.
Most of these deportees were rounded up within 100 miles of the border and deported regardless of they were criminals or not.

Liberals like Lesh - who fully approve of the deportation means and methods of the Obama administration - would scream bloody murder if this happened under the Trump administration.

It appears this poster is either on love with his thoughts or simply autistic.

The Obama Admin has a much different record on deportations that the Trump Admin.

Pretending otherwise is simply dishonest

 

[M14 Shooter]

Progressive response: It's not a problem when a democrat does it and Orange Man Bad

Absolutely correct.
All this "Due process! Due process!" nonsense is noting more than attempt to prevent Trump making good on a campaign progress -- they don't give a damn about the rights of illegals or the constitution, they just want to fight Trump.

ORANGEMANBAD!! ORANGEMANBAD!!

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Obama Admin has a much different record on deportations that the Trump Admin.

As you approved of the means and methods of deportation under the Obama administration...

Obama deported people regardless if they were criminals or not - why can't Trump?
Obama did not need to put every deportee before a judge - why does Trump?
Obama deported people with nothing but a review by a DHS or ICE agent - why can't Trump?
Obama deported people w/o witnesses, attorneys, or appeals - why can't Trump?

C'mon. Lie to us some more.
Its all you do.

 

[Lesh]

As you approved of the means and methods of deportation under the Obama administration...

Obama deported people regardless if they were criminals or not - why can't Trump?
Obama did not need to put every deportee before a judge - why does Trump?
Obama deported people with nothing but a review by a DHS or ICE agent - why can't Trump?
Obama deported people w/o witnesses, attorneys, or appeals - why can't Trump?

C'mon. Lie to us some more.
Its all you do.

That occurred AT THE BORDER or cases where they had verifiable criminal records.

If Trump were only doing that few people would have a problem.

He’s not and you know it

But keep pretending otherwise

 

[M14 Shooter]

That occurred AT THE BORDER or cases where they had verifiable criminal records.

As you know, both of these claims are a lie.
All you -ever- do is lie.

 

[Lesh]

As you know, both of these claims are a lie.
All you -ever- do is lie.

When the Trump admin reserves these non judicial cursory hearings to recent illegals entrants within 100 miles of the border… you get back to us

Till then you’re a dishonest piece of shit.

Well you’re that anyway

 

[M14 Shooter]

When the Trump...

Look at you - resorting to lies so you do not have to hold Obama to the same standard you apply to Trump
Let us know when you decide to cut the simpleton partisan bigot act.
Oh.. not an act. Duh.

 

[Nostra]

It appears this poster is either on love with his thoughts or simply autistic.

The Obama Admin has a much different record on deportations that the Trump Admin.

Pretending otherwise is simply dishonest

How is it different?

 

[Nostra]

That occurred AT THE BORDER or cases where they had verifiable criminal records.

If Trump were only doing that few people would have a problem.

He’s not and you know it

But keep pretending otherwise

How does an Ice agent determine someone is a criminal right there t the border in a matter of minutes?

Are these illegals coming in with there conviction papers and handing them to Ice?

 

[struth]

Keep trolling asswipe.

If Trump dealt with deportations the way Obama did I would be ok with it. He’s not and you know it and everyone else knows it

What’s different? Besides for members of terrorist organizations

 

[Nostra]

When the Trump admin reserves these non judicial cursory hearings to recent illegals entrants within 100 miles of the border… you get back to us

Till then you’re a dishonest piece of shit.

Well you’re that anyway

Can you point out this “100 mile rule” in the Constitution?

 

[Oddball]