Special forces ordered to stand down in Benghazi?

[Quantum Windbag]

No, you don't know what you are talking about, you probably don't even know what agenda means.

This from the guy that posted links that argue that Petreaus did not give orders as proof that he did.

This from the guy that can't read. The links are Petraeus's own claims that he didn't give a stand down order, which only proves that he could have.

Comprehension is definitely not your strong suit.

You keep going beck to something I never said, and trying to claim it makes me stupid because I keep insisting on sticking to what I actually said.

Triple down on stupid complete.

 

[Dante]

I could have sworn that someone said no one was ordered to stand down because there was no one in the area.

"he got a phone call from SOCAFRICA which said, you can’t go now, you don’t have authority to go now,” "

?

They had to have authority to go?

damn!

 

[Dante]

We even have a name for a source within the State Department, he was the number 2 man in Libya

Now who is this #2 man? Is he the real shit?

When Whiners Pose As Whistleblowers

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning: "Hicks is classic case of underachiever who whines when big breaks don't come his way. 22 years as an FSO and he is still an FS-1 (COL equivalent). His uninformed comments about F-16s validates why he is still a mid-ranked officer. Where was his testimony on his role in trying to talk his ambassador out of making an overnight visit to a place he knew was dangerous? Very few DCMs who lose an ambassador can expect greater responsibilities...and there are dozens of talented FS-1 ranked 'desk officers' working honorably at the State Department. Also of interest is that he is running for a senior leadership position in the State Dept. union/professional association, [American Foreign Service Association]. He didn't get my vote."

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wtf exactly is this guy supposed to be blowing the whistle on? his demotion?

Where are the illegal activities and misconduct he is exposing?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

We even have a name for a source within the State Department, he was the number 2 man in Libya

Now who is this #2 man? Is he the real shit?

When Whiners Pose As Whistleblowers

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning: "Hicks is classic case of underachiever who whines when big breaks don't come his way. 22 years as an FSO and he is still an FS-1 (COL equivalent). His uninformed comments about F-16s validates why he is still a mid-ranked officer. Where was his testimony on his role in trying to talk his ambassador out of making an overnight visit to a place he knew was dangerous? Very few DCMs who lose an ambassador can expect greater responsibilities...and there are dozens of talented FS-1 ranked 'desk officers' working honorably at the State Department. Also of interest is that he is running for a senior leadership position in the State Dept. union/professional association, [American Foreign Service Association]. He didn't get my vote."

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wtf exactly is this guy supposed to be blowing the whistle on? his demotion?

Where are the illegal activities and misconduct he is exposing?

You left out the source of your quote.

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning:

 

[Dante]

We even have a name for a source within the State Department, he was the number 2 man in Libya

Now who is this #2 man? Is he the real shit?

When Whiners Pose As Whistleblowers

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning: "Hicks is classic case of underachiever who whines when big breaks don't come his way. 22 years as an FSO and he is still an FS-1 (COL equivalent). His uninformed comments about F-16s validates why he is still a mid-ranked officer. Where was his testimony on his role in trying to talk his ambassador out of making an overnight visit to a place he knew was dangerous? Very few DCMs who lose an ambassador can expect greater responsibilities...and there are dozens of talented FS-1 ranked 'desk officers' working honorably at the State Department. Also of interest is that he is running for a senior leadership position in the State Dept. union/professional association, [American Foreign Service Association]. He didn't get my vote."

Foreign Policy: Situation Report
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wtf exactly is this guy supposed to be blowing the whistle on? his demotion?

Where are the illegal activities and misconduct he is exposing?

You left out the source of your quote.

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning:

Is Hicks a classic case of underachiever who whines when big breaks don't come his way?

Is it true he has been in the FS for 22 years as an FSO and he is still only an FS-1 (COL equivalent)?

Did Hicks make uninformed comments about F-16s?

 

[Mertex]

What was proven was that no one could have reached Benghazi in time to save anyone,

The attack didn't have a set ending time.

No, but anyone with a brain can figure out how long it would have taken the Special Force to get there, and at what time the 4 were killed. It's not rocket science.

 

[Oldstyle]

Now who is this #2 man? Is he the real shit?

When Whiners Pose As Whistleblowers

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning: "Hicks is classic case of underachiever who whines when big breaks don't come his way. 22 years as an FSO and he is still an FS-1 (COL equivalent). His uninformed comments about F-16s validates why he is still a mid-ranked officer. Where was his testimony on his role in trying to talk his ambassador out of making an overnight visit to a place he knew was dangerous? Very few DCMs who lose an ambassador can expect greater responsibilities...and there are dozens of talented FS-1 ranked 'desk officers' working honorably at the State Department. Also of interest is that he is running for a senior leadership position in the State Dept. union/professional association, [American Foreign Service Association]. He didn't get my vote."

Foreign Policy: Situation Report
The daily briefing from FP's National Security Channel
foreignpolicy.com

wtf exactly is this guy supposed to be blowing the whistle on? his demotion?

Where are the illegal activities and misconduct he is exposing?

You left out the source of your quote.

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning:

Is Hicks a classic case of underachiever who whines when big breaks don't come his way?

Is it true he has been in the FS for 22 years as an FSO and he is still only an FS-1 (COL equivalent)?

Did Hicks make uninformed comments about F-16s?

Are you really buying the story that we couldn't put an F-16 over Benghazi in a space of SEVEN HOURS? It that your contention, Dante? Yes or no?

 

[Dante]

Now who is this #2 man? Is he the real shit?

When Whiners Pose As Whistleblowers

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning: "Hicks is classic case of underachiever who whines when big breaks don't come his way. 22 years as an FSO and he is still an FS-1 (COL equivalent). His uninformed comments about F-16s validates why he is still a mid-ranked officer. Where was his testimony on his role in trying to talk his ambassador out of making an overnight visit to a place he knew was dangerous? Very few DCMs who lose an ambassador can expect greater responsibilities...and there are dozens of talented FS-1 ranked 'desk officers' working honorably at the State Department. Also of interest is that he is running for a senior leadership position in the State Dept. union/professional association, [American Foreign Service Association]. He didn't get my vote."

Foreign Policy: Situation Report
The daily briefing from FP's National Security Channel
foreignpolicy.com

wtf exactly is this guy supposed to be blowing the whistle on? his demotion?

Where are the illegal activities and misconduct he is exposing?

You left out the source of your quote.

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning:

Is Hicks a classic case of underachiever who whines when big breaks don't come his way?

Is it true he has been in the FS for 22 years as an FSO and he is still only an FS-1 (COL equivalent)?

Did Hicks make uninformed comments about F-16s?

 

[depotoo]

No, you don't know what you are talking about, you probably don't even know what agenda means.

This from the guy that posted links that argue that Petreaus did not give orders as proof that he did.

This from the guy that can't read. The links are Petraeus's own claims that he didn't give a stand down order, which only proves that he could have.

Comprehension is definitely not your strong suit.

hey, guess what? The Pentagon now says they did.
actually the Pentagon first denied they were ever told to stand down, yet tonight suddenly they state they left them there to secure Tripoli when they had other security forces there and they did not try to leave until Tripoli had been secured.
And it was General Ham that is over AFRICOM, not Kennedy.

Pentagon Denies Fox News Benghazi Report - John Hudson - The Atlantic Wire

Then this excuse also was given =
Benghazi had been attacked.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the team was reviewing security at U.S. embassies throughout the Middle East and was not prepared for a combat assault mission, being armed with only 9mm sidearms.

They also noted that the situation at Benghazi remained unclear and there were concerns the Embassy in Tripoli also could become a target.

Official: US Special Forces team wasn't allowed to fly to Benghazi during attack - Open Channel

Seems this was Panetta's reason as well -
Panetta on Benghazi attack: 'Could not put forces at risk' ? CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

and this -
A Pentagon spokesman said he would review the Hicks testimony. “We have repeatedly stated that while Department officials started taking action immediately after learning that an attack was underway at the American facility there, our forces were unable to reach it in time to intervene to stop the attacks,” Pentagon spokesman George Little said in an e-mail Monday night.

Special ops halted from responding to Benghazi attacks, U.S. diplomat says - The Washington Post

So, first they deny, then multiple reasons as to why they actually did give the order come out, depending on who you have being interviewed.

They had a medic within that 4 that could have helped with injured, even if they had arrived after the last atatck. The order to stand down was given before even the seond attack, from what I have heard. A flight in a c-130 would take about an hour and 15 minutes to get there from Tripoli.

And they had no idea how much longer the attack would go on and whether there would have been another round as well.

 

[Dante]

first they attack the Pentagon, now they use the Pentagon as a source while attacking America's heroes who work in the Pentagon

dirty rotten bastards those right wing kooks

 

[depotoo]

first they attack the Pentagon, now they use the Pentagon as a source while attacking America's heroes who work in the Pentagon

dirty rotten bastards those right wing kooks

Dirty rotten bastards that denied it when it they actually did. So sad they got caught with their pants down.

 

[Mertex]

After all this time, still nothing!

…There was no evidence of a conspiracy to withhold military assets for political reasons. No evidence of a cover-up. No evidence that the administration intentionally mislead anyone. No evidence that anyone was threatened for coming forward to testify…
Elijah Cummings on Benghazi hearing: No evidence of cover up or that Obama admin. intentionally mislead anyone » The Right Scoop -

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Now who is this #2 man? Is he the real shit?

When Whiners Pose As Whistleblowers

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning: "Hicks is classic case of underachiever who whines when big breaks don't come his way. 22 years as an FSO and he is still an FS-1 (COL equivalent). His uninformed comments about F-16s validates why he is still a mid-ranked officer. Where was his testimony on his role in trying to talk his ambassador out of making an overnight visit to a place he knew was dangerous? Very few DCMs who lose an ambassador can expect greater responsibilities...and there are dozens of talented FS-1 ranked 'desk officers' working honorably at the State Department. Also of interest is that he is running for a senior leadership position in the State Dept. union/professional association, [American Foreign Service Association]. He didn't get my vote."

Foreign Policy: Situation Report
The daily briefing from FP's National Security Channel
foreignpolicy.com

wtf exactly is this guy supposed to be blowing the whistle on? his demotion?

Where are the illegal activities and misconduct he is exposing?

You left out the source of your quote.

From an American diplomat, e-mailing Situation Report this morning:

Is Hicks a classic case of underachiever who whines when big breaks don't come his way?

Is it true he has been in the FS for 22 years as an FSO and he is still only an FS-1 (COL equivalent)?

Did Hicks make uninformed comments about F-16s?

Or, just a thought, the source is trying to discredit him because of personal or professional prejudices.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

What was proven was that no one could have reached Benghazi in time to save anyone,

The attack didn't have a set ending time.

No, but anyone with a brain can figure out how long it would have taken the Special Force to get there, and at what time the 4 were killed. It's not rocket science.

And Obama had a crystal ball that let him know those numbers in advance, right?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

This from the guy that posted links that argue that Petreaus did not give orders as proof that he did.

This from the guy that can't read. The links are Petraeus's own claims that he didn't give a stand down order, which only proves that he could have.

Comprehension is definitely not your strong suit.

hey, guess what? The Pentagon now says they did.
actually the Pentagon first denied they were ever told to stand down, yet tonight suddenly they state they left them there to secure Tripoli when they had other security forces there and they did not try to leave until Tripoli had been secured.
And it was General Ham that is over AFRICOM, not Kennedy.

Pentagon Denies Fox News Benghazi Report - John Hudson - The Atlantic Wire

Then this excuse also was given =
Benghazi had been attacked.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the team was reviewing security at U.S. embassies throughout the Middle East and was not prepared for a combat assault mission, being armed with only 9mm sidearms.

They also noted that the situation at Benghazi remained unclear and there were concerns the Embassy in Tripoli also could become a target.

Official: US Special Forces team wasn't allowed to fly to Benghazi during attack - Open Channel

Seems this was Panetta's reason as well -
Panetta on Benghazi attack: 'Could not put forces at risk' ? CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

and this -
A Pentagon spokesman said he would review the Hicks testimony. “We have repeatedly stated that while Department officials started taking action immediately after learning that an attack was underway at the American facility there, our forces were unable to reach it in time to intervene to stop the attacks,” Pentagon spokesman George Little said in an e-mail Monday night.

Special ops halted from responding to Benghazi attacks, U.S. diplomat says - The Washington Post

So, first they deny, then multiple reasons as to why they actually did give the order come out, depending on who you have being interviewed.

They had a medic within that 4 that could have helped with injured, even if they had arrived after the last atatck. The order to stand down was given before even the seond attack, from what I have heard. A flight in a c-130 would take about an hour and 15 minutes to get there from Tripoli.

And they had no idea how much longer the attack would go on and whether there would have been another round as well.

Yet, for some reason, someone denied a request from Hicks to send FEST even though they also thought that Tripoli might be in danger.

Makes me wonder what was going on.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

first they attack the Pentagon, now they use the Pentagon as a source while attacking America's heroes who work in the Pentagon

dirty rotten bastards those right wing kooks

Does it bother you that your carefully crafted argument in defense of Obama doesn't hold up to reality?

 

[Mertex]

The attack didn't have a set ending time.

No, but anyone with a brain can figure out how long it would have taken the Special Force to get there, and at what time the 4 were killed. It's not rocket science.

And Obama had a crystal ball that let him know those numbers in advance, right?

And, Obama didn't give the "stand down" order - you all keep accusing him but keep coming up empty each time!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No, but anyone with a brain can figure out how long it would have taken the Special Force to get there, and at what time the 4 were killed. It's not rocket science.

And Obama had a crystal ball that let him know those numbers in advance, right?

And, Obama didn't give the "stand down" order - you all keep accusing him but keep coming up empty each time!

According to the official story Obama gave the order to use whatever means necessary to keep everyone alive. Despite this order, the military was ordered to stand down, and the State Department refused to send FEST, yet Obama is not concerned that his orders were disobeyed.

Why is that?

 

[Mertex]

And Obama had a crystal ball that let him know those numbers in advance, right?

And, Obama didn't give the "stand down" order - you all keep accusing him but keep coming up empty each time!

According to the official story Obama gave the order to use whatever means necessary to keep everyone alive. Despite this order, the military was ordered to stand down, and the State Department refused to send FEST, yet Obama is not concerned that his orders were disobeyed.

Why is that?

A wise leader lets the people in charge of those operations make the decisions. He trusted that they knew what they were doing and based on the evidence that has been presented, it has not been proven that they were wrong.

 

[Dante]

first they attack the Pentagon, now they use the Pentagon as a source while attacking America's heroes who work in the Pentagon

dirty rotten bastards those right wing kooks

Does it bother you that your carefully crafted argument in defense of Obama doesn't hold up to reality?

carefully crafted? It is on-the-fly puttin' on the ritz!

Come on, the President did nothing wrong. Islamic extremists attacked Benghazi Consulate twice in one day, 6 hours apart/

The cons and GOP just want to use this as a campaign issue, because they are out of ideas and really good arguments why they should stay in power