Speaker Ryan Criticises Trump's Pardon of Arpiao

[Aldo Raine]

Arpaio never spent a day in prison nor was he likely to - his case had yet to go to appeal where it may have been reversed.

Trump's actions were premature and bizarre.

No it really isn't, if it gets turned over in appeal Trump gets nothing for it. With his parfon he is even more god luke to his cult. Easy really.

 

[reconmark]

So, to sum up your illogical, childish and basically stupid rant, let's look at the facts...
Illegals: Came into the country illegally and while here many followed the law, built lives, had families, started businesses, graduated college and committed less crimes than Americans born here.

Arpaio: Took an Oath to uphold the law and broke that Oath. Illegally violated the Rights of many innocent people while conducting the illegal practice of racial profiling. Illegally continued to break the law even when ordered to cease by a duly authorized court Judge.

So as usual, conservatives are 100% law and order except when they have to follow the law and then applauds the undermining of law and order from an individual that uses the WH as his personal enrichment platform...

Wrong. Arpaio upheld the law and enforced it. The corrupt Hussein administration used its influence to undermine Arpaio. President Trump merely put an end to that political witch hunt.

I see that I have to dumb it down for you...here goes.
Did Arpaio illegally use racial profiling against innocent people because they appeared to be of a certain race???
Is racial profiling illegal???
Did a duly appointed Judge order him to cease his illegal activity???
Did he cease the illegal activity???
Is disobeying the lawful judgement illegal???
Yes, he broke the law and is a criminal, too bad your intellectual dishonesty won't allow you to admit the facts...

Wrong again dumbass.

This Judge ordered him to stop "targeting Latino drivers", whatever the **** that means. Arizona deputies are supposed to never pull over someone just because they look "Latino" now? The order was nonesense and there was no way to comply with it.

Arizona law enforcement was never found guilty of "racial profiling".
Arpaio and his deputies were never doing anything illegal in the first place, so there was nothing to "cease".
According to liberals, arresting a Latino for any crime would be considered "violating the Judge's orders".
Sorry, but the LEOs aren't going to stop arresting people just because of their skin color.

So you have just responded to actual facts with your "opinion"...lol.


In Racial Profiling Lawsuit, Ariz. Judge Rules Sheriff Arpaio In Contempt Of Court
An Arizona judge has ruled that Joe Arpaio, who calls himself "America's toughest sheriff," is in civil contempt of court. Judge G. Murray Snow says Arpaio has repeatedly and knowingly disobeyed his orders to cease policing tactics against Latinos that he says amount to systemic racial profiling.
In Racial Profiling Lawsuit, Ariz. Judge Rules Sheriff Arpaio In Contempt Of Court

You must enjoy being made a fool of...

Was it ever proven that Arpaio's deputies were "systematically racially profiling" when pulling criminals over? Nope, it was just a batshit crazy Judge's opinion. There was absolutely no way to determine how the Sheriff deputies could comply to such an idiotic order. How did the Judge determine that police "tactics" were being used against Latinos?

Still no links or facts to present???...maybe you should just stop...

 

[Ted Frazier]

Trump's pardon of the old sheriff in Arizona is a passing 24-48 hour Liberal/Bolshevik Trump Hysteria...Meaning he will have done something else that's puts these turds into an apoplectic hissy fit by then.

But this one is worth examining a bit.

No sane person questions the absolute right of the President to grant a pardon; its in the Constitution; it has been used by every President...many times.

Generalizing this really trivial issue---involving one old man....it comes down to whether you are an Open Borders Man; or a Closed the Borders Man.

Can there be any doubt...from watching how Trump campaigned...that he would pardon Arpaio if it ever came to that?

Trump campaigned on Closing the Borders to the illegal invasion that Mexico is presently involved in; he Trump got elected on that very issue; and Arpaio spent his life fighting for exactly what Trump said he was fighting for.

Was it not obvious, even to the poorly educated of the rotting cities of the North, what Trump would do?

Would he have not been a traitor to the people who elected him if he had let the crusty old sheriff spend his last months in a prison?

So, this ass & ***** Paul Ryan should be bitching if Trump had, in effect, BROKEN a Republican Campaign Promise....instead of, in effect, kept one. **** him.

God Bless Trump for pardoning the old sheriff....and **** Paul Ryan for inserting himself into the matter, which he did because he is because he is scared shit-less of the New York Media....just like, most of the rest of the Republican Caucus in Congress....which has more Pussies than 50 Bunny Ranches.
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Paul Ryan criticizes Trump and you criticize liberals.

 

[MACAULAY]

Trump's pardon of the old sheriff in Arizona is a passing 24-48 hour Liberal/Bolshevik Trump Hysteria...Meaning he will have done something else that's puts these turds into an apoplectic hissy fit by then.

But this one is worth examining a bit.

No sane person questions the absolute right of the President to grant a pardon; its in the Constitution; it has been used by every President...many times.

Generalizing this really trivial issue---involving one old man....it comes down to whether you are an Open Borders Man; or a Closed the Borders Man.

Can there be any doubt...from watching how Trump campaigned...that he would pardon Arpaio if it ever came to that?

Trump campaigned on Closing the Borders to the illegal invasion that Mexico is presently involved in; he Trump got elected on that very issue; and Arpaio spent his life fighting for exactly what Trump said he was fighting for.

Was it not obvious, even to the poorly educated of the rotting cities of the North, what Trump would do?

Would he have not been a traitor to the people who elected him if he had let the crusty old sheriff spend his last months in a prison?

So, this ass & ***** Paul Ryan should be bitching if Trump had, in effect, BROKEN a Republican Campaign Promise....instead of, in effect, kept one. **** him.

God Bless Trump for pardoning the old sheriff....and **** Paul Ryan for inserting himself into the matter, which he did because he is because he is scared shit-less of the New York Media....just like, most of the rest of the Republican Caucus in Congress....which has more Pussies than 50 Bunny Ranches.
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Paul Ryan criticizes Trump and you criticize liberals.

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Sir: I do believe you misapprehended the content of my remarks---possibly due to a learning disability (Stupidity); possibly due to a deficient education (Public School run by Democratic Teachers Unions in a Rotting Northern City).

I didn't bother to mentioned "liberals" (Budding Bolsheviks, currently known as Democrats). All true Americans know they are the enemy; the enemy of the way of life which has made this country the greatest in the history of the world.

My post criticized the ones who are supposed to be standing up to the Bolshevik Influence which seeks to turn this great country into another third world socialist society...I am complaining about the Pussies, like Paul Ryan, who are supposed to be on our side in the struggle against Baby-Stalins...like yourself.

Alas, I can only type the words and sentences...I can't comprehend them for you.

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[The Original Tree]

Trump's pardon of the old sheriff in Arizona is a passing 24-48 hour Liberal/Bolshevik Trump Hysteria...Meaning he will have done something else that's puts these turds into an apoplectic hissy fit by then.

But this one is worth examining a bit.

No sane person questions the absolute right of the President to grant a pardon; its in the Constitution; it has been used by every President...many times.

Generalizing this really trivial issue---involving one old man....it comes down to whether you are an Open Borders Man; or a Closed the Borders Man.

Can there be any doubt...from watching how Trump campaigned...that he would pardon Arpaio if it ever came to that?

Trump campaigned on Closing the Borders to the illegal invasion that Mexico is presently involved in; he Trump got elected on that very issue; and Arpaio spent his life fighting for exactly what Trump said he was fighting for.

Was it not obvious, even to the poorly educated of the rotting cities of the North, what Trump would do?

Would he have not been a traitor to the people who elected him if he had let the crusty old sheriff spend his last months in a prison?

So, this ass & ***** Paul Ryan should be bitching if Trump had, in effect, BROKEN a Republican Campaign Promise....instead of, in effect, kept one. **** him.

God Bless Trump for pardoning the old sheriff....and **** Paul Ryan for inserting himself into the matter, which he did because he is because he is scared shit-less of the New York Media....just like, most of the rest of the Republican Caucus in Congress....which has more Pussies than 50 Bunny Ranches.
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Ryan had no issues with Obama Bin Lying pardoning Drug dealers and Felons selling Mexican Meth, Mexican Heroin, Mexican Cocaine, and Mexican Marijuana In The United States!

Obama pardoned a Lefty Murdering Terrorist, and released hundreds of Al Queda, and ISIS soldiers and 'officers' from GITMO. Did Ryan and McConnel say anything about that?

Maybe if The Lefty Murdering Terrorists were trying to enforce Federal Immigration Law, they might just be outraged enough to speak out on it!

 

[The Original Tree]

So, to sum up your illogical, childish and basically stupid rant, let's look at the facts...
Illegals: Came into the country illegally and while here many followed the law, built lives, had families, started businesses, graduated college and committed less crimes than Americans born here.

Arpaio: Took an Oath to uphold the law and broke that Oath. Illegally violated the Rights of many innocent people while conducting the illegal practice of racial profiling. Illegally continued to break the law even when ordered to cease by a duly authorized court Judge.

So as usual, conservatives are 100% law and order except when they have to follow the law and then applauds the undermining of law and order from an individual that uses the WH as his personal enrichment platform...

You cannot "BREAK A LAW" detaining an ILLEGAL ALIEN if they fail to show LEGAL IDENTIFICATION. ALSO PROFILING IS NOT ILLEGAL. AND ILLEGAL ALIENS come under the JURISDICTION of The NATION where they are Legal CITIZENS, so by LAW, they actually have to be removed from this country for entering it ILLEGALLY, and reprimanded over to the country of their origin.

They can also serve sentences in US Federal Prisons for being an Illegal Alien, or violating any US statute, and then upon serving their sentence, are to be released to the Country of their origin....

Care to cite US CODE THAT GRANTS ILLEGAL ALIENS TO BE IMMUNE TO A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ASKING THEM IF THEY HAVE LEGAL IDENTIFICATION?

 

[SeaGal]

So, this ass & ***** Paul Ryan should be bitching if Trump had, in effect, BROKEN a Republican Campaign Promise....instead of, in effect, kept one. **** him.

What exactly did Paul Ryan say? The headlines are sensational but I can't find a direct quote.

Disclaimer: I like Ryan, voted for Trump and approve the pardon. That said - we've come off of 8 years with an imperialistic president whose own party was either too intimated to disagree, or had an affinity for towing the party line.

Disagreement among party leaders is OK, broadens the debate - we should embrace it and don't let those who would never approve of Trump anyway convince us otherwise. I understand it goes against current political wisdom, and not all criticisms are equal - but wouldn't we have all been better off if high ranking Democrats had found the moral courage to speak against the excesses of Obama?

Not saying Trump's pardon is an excess - just saying don't be so quick to criticize those with a different point of view - that's not representative of conservativism, imho. Ironically the Dems accuse the Reps as being the party of locksteppers, then point out disagreement as a bad thing. Go figure.

A tidbit about Ryan...
Even as House Speaker, Paul Ryan Sleeps in His Office

 

[MACAULAY]

So, this ass & ***** Paul Ryan should be bitching if Trump had, in effect, BROKEN a Republican Campaign Promise....instead of, in effect, kept one. **** him.

What exactly did Paul Ryan say? The headlines are sensational but I can't find a direct quote.

Disclaimer: I like Ryan, voted for Trump and approve the pardon. That said - we've come off of 8 years with an imperialistic president whose own party was either too intimated to disagree, or had an affinity for towing the party line.

Disagreement among party leaders is OK, broadens the debate - we should embrace it and don't let those who would never approve of Trump anyway convince us otherwise. I understand it goes against current political wisdom, and not all criticisms are equal - but wouldn't we have all been better off if high ranking Democrats had found the moral courage to speak against the excesses of Obama?

Not saying Trump's pardon is an excess - just saying don't be so quick to criticize those with a different point of view - that's not representative of conservativism, imho. Ironically the Dems accuse the Reps as being the party of locksteppers, then point out disagreement as a bad thing. Go figure.

A tidbit about Ryan...
Even as House Speaker, Paul Ryan Sleeps in His Office

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Reasonable response disagreeing with my point of view. Very rare on this board.

My fear is that the Republicans in Congress, who should be leading the fight against what looks like an attempted Socialist Takeover of this Country...are too intimidated by the Pravda-like arm of the Democratic Party---the New York Nedia---to stand up for what they believe.

Example: Jim Jordan of Ohio. I think most Republican members of Congress think pretty much like he does. He is a reasonable Conservative. The difference is, he has guts, and the rest do not. The rest, including Paul Ryan, are too worried about their own political ambitions to take a stand which would draw the ire of the New York Media; they are cowed...paralyzed into inaction by a fear they will be labeled a "White Supremacist"---the current moniker applied to anyone who voted for Don Trump.

As someone pointed out in this thread---where was Paul Ryan when the Democrat Obama was pardoning the disgusting people he pardoned? Paul was laying low making sure he did not irritate CNN or the New York Times; and now he is out immediately to criticize a Republican....because it will please CNN & the New York Times...and thus further his political ambitions.

We know the Enemy of this great Republic and we can handle them--if we can stanch the Mexican Invasion.

Its our supposed friends that scare me.

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[ZZ PUPPS]

By pardoning him now, prior to sentencing and appeal, he has saved the taxpayers money. The government won't incur the expense of further litigation. Since the president had no intention of letting the bogus conviction stand, he made the cost effective solution for the taxpayers.

 

[SeaGal]

My fear is that the Republicans in Congress, who should be leading the fight against what looks like an attempted Socialist Takeover of this Country...are too intimidated by the Pravda-like arm of the Democratic Party---the New York Nedia---to stand up for what they believe.

I cannot say that you are wrong, or that I am right. I do understand and share part of your concern - Trump seems beleaguered on all sides. Some criticism is well founded, but most is based on hyperbole and hysteria, imo. Trump has little filter in tweet and speech and though that was part of his appeal it can provoke unnecessary/irrational reaction. But...I do believe that the country is worse off because the previous presidents own party seldom if ever stood up to him, seldom did the press either. Although on the bright side - it gave us Trump.

I also believe that Ryan is one of the more sincere and principled men in DC.

 

[Darkwind]

I find it interesting that the left has a cow over Trump pardoning an old man who may have stepped outside the boundary of the law (let's not talk about how many leftists do so without consequence), yet they remained silent or outright defensive when Obama let go, what was it, 85; very evil men from Gitmo who are as of this moment, still working, planning and killing American soldiers.

Prisoner swaps are common. That's not the same as pardoning but feel free to stretch.

It isn't a stretch to point out the obvious moral flaw of the left's outrage.