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Southern Baptist leaders release sex abuser database they kept secret for years

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Many are aware of this scandal--but for some reason most want to focus of the Catholics or the LDS..and not acknowledge that child sexual abuse has been a problem in almost all Christian denominations...perhaps with this release the blinders will come off for the Southern Baptists and the perpetrators punished~


Southern Baptist leaders on Thursday evening released a list of alleged church-related sexual abuse offenders that denomination heads had kept secret for more than a decade. The Executive Committee for the Southern Baptist Convention said earlier this week it would publish the names after it issued a third-party investigation that suggested a widespread coverup by top leaders who ignored and even “vilified” people who came forward with stories of abuse.
The database, which an SBC attorney said includes people who have been criminally convicted of abuse and those who have confessed to abuse, is expected to show what top leaders knew behind the scenes while telling Southern Baptists they could not create a list of accused abusers because the denomination is not hierarchical and churches operate independently from one another.
A description at the top of the document reads: “This is a fluid, working document." It consists of more than 600 entries, the date the person was reported and information largely pulled from news articles, compiled from 2007 until 2022. “It is incomplete. It has not been proofed. It has not been adequately researched. It is not Southern Baptist specific," the document reads. It notes that, after June 2008, “only alleged/convicted names of abusers and [titles] of articles were catalogued.”
The release of the database comes 15 years after Christa Brown began sounding the alarm that Southern Baptists needed to keep such a list to prevent abusers from transferring from church to church. She first told SBC leaders in 2004 that she had been abused by a youth pastor who went on to serve in other Southern Baptist churches in multiple states. But the report published Sunday by the SBC said she was met with hostility when she suggested the idea in 2007.
Brown, 68, was emotional Thursday when she learned that the man she alleges abused her was listed in the database — an official acknowledgment by the Southern Baptist Convention.
“This means so much to us survivors,” she said. “It’s a reflection of how cruel it was to stonewall any kind of validation for decades. For survivors to heal, this kind of validation is an acknowledgment of the truth of the horror of what was done to us.”
The man she alleges abused her, who has not been charged or convicted, hung up the phone in response to a Washington Post request for comment. She said the man began to abuse her in 1968 and that when she initially pursued a civil case against him in 2005, the statute of limitations had expired.
But, Brown said, the list is also a “very small measure of justice.”
“They don’t get to pat themselves on the back for this,” Brown added. “I’m sorry. God only knows why they were keeping it secret. It’s the very tiniest thing of what needs to be done.”

Key takeaways from the bombshell sex abuse report by Southern Baptists
 

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but would it make difference ? huh? since America place where rapes happens in each one minutes, and domestic violence in each 9 seconds.

so in home or outside home with these cult leaders, where is safe place ? huh? is there any safe place where one can go ?
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and after looking at your user id, i dont think you are sane man either. just another whore hunter is crying about some cult frauds.

hahahaha! what an joke it is!
 
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but would it make difference ? huh? since America place where rapes happens in each one minutes, and domestic violence in each 9 seconds.

so in home or outside home with these cult leaders, where is safe place ? huh? is there any safe place where one can go ?
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and after looking at your user id, i dont think you are sane man either. just another whore hunter is crying about some cult frauds.

hahahaha! what an joke it is!
Oh...OK--a bit hard to parse your fractured prose--but does that have to do with the topic?

If there were to be a 'safe place' should it not be in a house of God?

Are you calling the Southern Baptists a cult?


BTW..one need not hunt whores, they're a tame species~
 

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Oh...OK--a bit hard to parse your fractured prose--but does that have to do with the topic?

If there were to be a 'safe place' should it not be in a house of God?

Are you calling the Southern Baptists a cult?


BTW..one need not hunt whores, they're a tame species~

hey! moron! what the fuck are you bluffing ? you do not makes sense. ( stupid idiot ) try again with better words.

actual point is rapes are happening in America in each 1 minute, and domestic violence in each 9 seconds. so what the fuck makes difference ? huh?

why say that cult leaders are any different than average americans ? huh? since no one is safe even in normal life than why blame only cults ? huh? would it make you sane man? are you any thing like saint ? huh?
 

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seems religions exist for the main purpose of exploiting women of all ages
 

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So, there is a list of over 600 names on it which is large for the alleged victims but small for the size of the denomination.

How does it contrast with the reported incidences for the country as a whole?
 
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hey! moron! what the fuck are you bluffing ? you do not makes sense. ( stupid idiot ) try again with better words.

actual point is rapes are happening in America in each 1 minute, and domestic violence in each 9 seconds. so what the fuck makes difference ? huh?

why say that cult leaders are any different than average americans ? huh? since no one is safe even in normal life than why blame only cults ? huh? would it make you sane man? are you any thing like saint ? huh?
I see. your point is that since sexual violence and spousal abuse are common that revealing the names of sexual predators in the Southern Baptist church is pointless?

Perhaps some ESL classes would help you out?

Anyway..thanks for playing..Rookie.
 
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So, there is a list of over 600 names on it which is large for the alleged victims but small for the size of the denomination.

How does it contrast with the reported incidences for the country as a whole?
Dunno...given that the vast bulk of abusers are never caught--is the list just the tip of the iceberg...and...is there a special place in Hell..assuming one believes in such a place..for those who abuse their positions of trust to prey on children?

We are not talking about all abusers..but the subset of those who use their positions of religious authority to groom and abuse children--and more cogently--those who covered up the facts and allowed the abuse to go on..unchecked.
 

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o that will just be the tip of the ice berg...remember how the investigation began in the catholic church.....a few priest then a flood of perverts
 

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I see. your point is that since sexual violence and spousal abuse are common that revealing the names of sexual predators in the Southern Baptist church is pointless?

Perhaps some ESL classes would help you out?

Anyway..thanks for playing..Rookie.

so by learning some english change the facts ? by your own american governments ( officials ) report ? that each minute one women gets raped in america ? and domestic violence takes place in every next 9 seconds ? huh?

foolish goof, you are an complete moron! in spite of knowing english, so what is the use of learning it ? huh?

should i become another moron like you ? who is also same whore hunter like those cult leaders ? huh?

at the whole why did you made this all rubbish farce ? what was the point of it ? since you are not serious!
 
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Dunno...given that the vast bulk of abusers are never caught--is the list just the tip of the iceberg...and...is there a special place in Hell..assuming one believes in such a place..for those who abuse their positions of trust to prey on children?

We are not talking about all abusers..but the subset of those who use their positions of religious authority to groom and abuse children--and more cogently--those who covered up the facts and allowed the abuse to go on..unchecked.

So if we are not talking about all abusers. than don't create the farce, whore hunter!

Since what wise man discriminates that this disease is good and this one is bad ? since disease is disease in any form and wise who are actually serious deals with it in such a way so that it would be erradictated completely.

but you yourself are sure for your own self ? that you are not into same category ? huh? for by looking at your user id i get same feelings which i get about these cult leaders.
 

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that was a big fight in the sbc....to name names or not..guidepost insisted they must be named
 

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I was talking about total Church membership which is:

Lifeway Research

Southern Baptists Face Largest Membership Decline in 100 Years​


June 4, 2020

By Aaron Earls

Excerpt:


A growing number of Southern Baptist churches are home to a shrinking number of Southern Baptists.

Total membership in the Southern Baptist Convention fell almost 2% to 14,525,579 from 2018 to 2019, according to the Annual Church Profile compiled by Lifeway Christian Resources in cooperation with Baptist state conventions. The decline of 287,655 members is the largest single year drop in more than 100 years.

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Thus 600 is a small number in contrast to 14,500,000 members
 

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Many are aware of this scandal--but for some reason most want to focus of the Catholics or the LDS..and not acknowledge that child sexual abuse has been a problem in almost all Christian denominations...perhaps with this release the blinders will come off for the Southern Baptists and the perpetrators punished~


Southern Baptist leaders on Thursday evening released a list of alleged church-related sexual abuse offenders that denomination heads had kept secret for more than a decade. The Executive Committee for the Southern Baptist Convention said earlier this week it would publish the names after it issued a third-party investigation that suggested a widespread coverup by top leaders who ignored and even “vilified” people who came forward with stories of abuse.
The database, which an SBC attorney said includes people who have been criminally convicted of abuse and those who have confessed to abuse, is expected to show what top leaders knew behind the scenes while telling Southern Baptists they could not create a list of accused abusers because the denomination is not hierarchical and churches operate independently from one another.
A description at the top of the document reads: “This is a fluid, working document." It consists of more than 600 entries, the date the person was reported and information largely pulled from news articles, compiled from 2007 until 2022. “It is incomplete. It has not been proofed. It has not been adequately researched. It is not Southern Baptist specific," the document reads. It notes that, after June 2008, “only alleged/convicted names of abusers and [titles] of articles were catalogued.”
The release of the database comes 15 years after Christa Brown began sounding the alarm that Southern Baptists needed to keep such a list to prevent abusers from transferring from church to church. She first told SBC leaders in 2004 that she had been abused by a youth pastor who went on to serve in other Southern Baptist churches in multiple states. But the report published Sunday by the SBC said she was met with hostility when she suggested the idea in 2007.
Brown, 68, was emotional Thursday when she learned that the man she alleges abused her was listed in the database — an official acknowledgment by the Southern Baptist Convention.
“This means so much to us survivors,” she said. “It’s a reflection of how cruel it was to stonewall any kind of validation for decades. For survivors to heal, this kind of validation is an acknowledgment of the truth of the horror of what was done to us.”
The man she alleges abused her, who has not been charged or convicted, hung up the phone in response to a Washington Post request for comment. She said the man began to abuse her in 1968 and that when she initially pursued a civil case against him in 2005, the statute of limitations had expired.
But, Brown said, the list is also a “very small measure of justice.”
“They don’t get to pat themselves on the back for this,” Brown added. “I’m sorry. God only knows why they were keeping it secret. It’s the very tiniest thing of what needs to be done.”

Key takeaways from the bombshell sex abuse report by Southern Baptists

 

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