Some thoughts from the "founding fathers"

[Bitterhook]

The facts of the Pretti case are slowly coming out.
Their initial refusal to even investigate is proof they knew they were lying and covering up the f acts.
Pretti NEVER BRANDISHED HIS GUN.
Pretti was NOT A DOMESTIC TERRORIST
Pretti was NOT PLANNING TO KILL MULTIPLE ICE AGENTS.

And still, it didn't work out too well for him.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Think about it, folks.

She's right you know.

Which is why if Trump were really interested in removing Illegals, he's start with the Progressive Infrastructure.

I keep telling you Progressives that Trump s your BFF

 

[rightwinger]

Guess what, the British put a statue of George Washington in Trafalgar Square after the war and it's still there today.

You can be damned sure they won’t put one up to Trump

 

[Bitterhook]

You can be damned sure they won’t put one up to Trump

Well, maybe if President Trump kicks their ass they might, it worked for President Washington.

 

[rightwinger]

Well, maybe if President Trump kicks their ass they might, it worked for President Washington.

The problem is Trump BEING an ass

 

[Captain Creeper]

The facts of the Pretti case are slowly coming out.
Their initial refusal to even investigate is proof they knew they were lying and covering up the f acts.
Pretti NEVER BRANDISHED HIS GUN.
Pretti was NOT A DOMESTIC TERRORIST
Pretti was not PLANNING TO KILL MULTIPLE ICE AGNTS.

Pretti was such a psycho that he quit his job and went full-time leftist agitator. He carried a gun to a riot to protect himself from who? Those comrades of his who was there to start trouble by ******* with armed law enforcement (like him) or the armed law enforcement he was there to **** with? Hmmmmmmmmm…..

He was certainly on a beeline to becoming a terrorist and cop killer. He was much closer to that than any normal person. These vermin are being brainwashed on social media, told to “use their bodies” to stop ICE, confront and interfere with law enforcement (a crime), and in some cases to attack law enforcement. Pretti went so far as to attack ICE agents a week or so before he was shot.

Whether the kill was legal or not is a separate issue to whether Pretti was a righteous martyr. In fact, all signs point to him being a violent goon serving as a pawn for neo-Marxists.

You cannot find truth without context. A simple video or photograph is misleading without context because you will infer therefrom the totality of the circumstances. It does not show everything, certainly not the officers’ perspective and threat assessment.

 

[meaner gene]

Well, except for the fact that every damn one of our Founding Fathers were considered to be criminals and traitors to the Crown and would have been hanged if they hadn't won the war.

Guess what, the British put a statue of George Washington in Trafalgar Square after the war and it's still there today.

Don't you mean after the WORLD WAR?

A bronze statue of George Washington stands in London’s Trafalgar Square, specifically on the grounds of The National Gallery, serving as a symbol of peace and the "special relationship" between the U.S. and UK. Gifted by Virginia in 1921,

 

[meaner gene]

You can be damned sure they won’t put one up to Trump

They didn't exactly "put up the statute", as it was a gift following America coming to their aid in World War I,
and commemorating the subsequent peace.

 

[Bitterhook]

Don't you mean after the WORLD WAR?

A bronze statue of George Washington stands in London’s Trafalgar Square, specifically on the grounds of The National Gallery, serving as a symbol of peace and the "special relationship" between the U.S. and UK. Gifted by Virginia in 1921,

Was that after the American Revolution?
Was President Washington not still George Washington?
Did we hold a gun to their head and make them do it?
If the State of Alabama sends you a statue of Robert E Lee tomorrow, for the sake of peace, harmony and reconciliation, are you going to put it up in your front yard?

Have 160 nations of the face of this earth copied or fashioned portions of their own charters from the US Constitution, especially in regard to human rights and liberties, and what do you think about the 35 nations that haven't or how well they treat their citizens?

 

[meaner gene]

Was that after the American Revolution?
Was President Washington not still George Washington?
Did we hold a gun to their head and make them do it?

Have 160 nations of the face of this earth copied or fashioned portions of their own charters from the US Constitution, especially in regard to human rights and liberties, and what do you think about the 35 nations that haven't or how well they treat their citizens?

Actually you lied by referring to DIFFERENT WARS, with the same phrase "the war".

Well, except for the fact that every damn one of our Founding Fathers were considered to be criminals and traitors to the Crown and would have been hanged if they hadn't won the war.

the revolutionary war

Guess what, the British put a statue of George Washington in Trafalgar Square after the war and it's still there today.

World War One

 

[Bitterhook]

Actually you lied by referring to DIFFERENT WARS, with the same phrase "the war".

You are trying to make an ambiguous point that does not address anything in the context of the post you just quoted, and for personal reasons, that we really don't need to discuss.

 

[meaner gene]

You are trying to make an ambiguous point that does not address anything in the context of the post, and for personal reasons. we really don't need to discuss.

It wasn't ambiguous, it was purposefully deceptive.
Once you used a definitive term "THE WAR" it defined it's meaning in future use.

And using it to refer to a completely different war a hundred thirty years later, was a purposeful deception.

 

[meaner gene]

The Nobel Committed actually voted to give "the US president" the peace prize, before they voted against giving "the US president" the peace prize.

 

[Bitterhook]

It wasn't ambiguous, it was purposefully deceptive.
Once you used a definitive term "THE WAR" it defined it's meaning in future use.

And using it to refer to a completely different war a hundred thirty years later, was a purposeful deception.

At what point did I say you were incorrect, and why are you still failing to address anything else in the context post?
Just another example of how it is ambiguous, and has more to do with your problems or desires.

 

[meaner gene]

At what point did I say you were incorrect, and why are you still failing to address anything else in the context post?
Just another example of how it is ambiguous, and has more to do with your problems or desires.

Because you lost all credibility in any argument you may make.

 

[rightwinger]

The Nobel Committed actually voted to give "the US president" the peace prize, before they voted against giving "the US president" the peace prize.

Even better…

Trump got the FIFA Peace Prize and had the Kennedy Center named after him

 

[Bitterhook]

Because you lost all credibility in any argument you may make.

You didn't address anything I was arguing you nitwit and only focused on a sidebar comment, in attempts to play the same stupid game you always play, and that cost you your credibility as well as ability to present the idea you may desire to discuss anything worthwhile, long before this conversation ever started.

And bless your precious little heart because I warned you that you didn't want to discuss this.

 

[meaner gene]

Even better…

Trump got the FIFA Peace Prize and had the Kennedy Center named after him

Trump also got the Nobel prize second hand.

 

[meaner gene]

You didn't address anything I was arguing you nitwit and only focused on a sidebar comment, in attempts to play the same stupid game you always play, and that cost you your credibility as well as ability to present the idea you may desire to discuss anything worthwhile, long before this conversation ever started.

And bless your precious little heart because I warned you that you didn't want to discuss this.

You can't have an honest discussion, once one side purposefully lies about the point they're making.
That cost you the right to have your points addressed.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump also got the Nobel prize second hand.

It’s a Major Award!