Some on the Right have tried to draw a parallel between Biden's pardon of Hunter and trump's pardon

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of Roger Stone. The comparison they say is based on Stone being rewarded by trump for Roger's refusal to cooperate in the Mueller investigation. Especially with regard to his knowledge of communications between Stone and Assange over the release of material illegally hacked from DNC servers by the GRU and given to Wikileaks. Mueller would have liked to have known if trump directed Stone to make contact with Assange about the timing of the Wiki document dump coming so soon after the release of the Access Hollywood tape.
It's the contention of the Right that Hunter's pardon actually protects Joe because of the supposed corrupt acts they committed together as trump's pardon of Stone protected Baby Donald.

This disrupts that narrative.

FBI informant pleads guilty to lying about $10M Biden bribery payments to Joe, Hunter


A former FBI informant pleaded guilty on Thursday to lying about a $10 million bribe that a Ukrainian businessman paid to then-vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter to “protect” his firm from a looming corruption investigation.

Alexander Smirnov, 43, entered into a plea agreement with special counsel David Weiss and confessed to having created “a false and fictitious record” as part of a multi-year federal probe into the Bidens.

"My trial was a Soviet-style show trial in which the judge denied us any powerful line of defense, in which the judge, we now know, hid exculpatory evidence from us," Stone told host Tucker Carlson. "Because I knew on Election Day, when no one was watching, the Justice Department released the last remaining redacted sections of the Mueller report in which they admitted that they had no evidence whatsoever of my colluding with Russia, WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, trafficking in emails ..."

 
"My trial was a Soviet-style show trial in which the judge denied us any powerful line of defense, in which the judge, we now know, hid exculpatory evidence from us," Stone told host Tucker Carlson. "Because I knew on Election Day, when no one was watching, the Justice Department released the last remaining redacted sections of the Mueller report in which they admitted that they had no evidence whatsoever of my colluding with Russia, WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, trafficking in emails ..."

Stone is lying. Nothing new./
 
Stop it already.

Hunter is pardoned.

It is over.
It may not be over. While Biden certainly has the power to pardon Hunter for the crimes he was convicted of, it's an open question whether he can give a blanket pardon like he did. The Trump DoJ could bring charges against Hunter and see what SCOTUS has to say on the matter. I suspect, however, that this won't happen. Trump may want to use this power himself.
 
No questions exist about Biden's presidential power of pardon. It's absolute.

I don't like the idea of a President able to pardon himself, but I think he can do that as well.
 
If there was no interference then you don't have to fear an investigation.
I don't, but those targeted for an investigation do. Do you understand a DoJ investigation can ruin someone financially even if no wrongdoing is found? Making the mere threat of an investigation a form of intimidation. The message being sent is..............."if you continue being critical of trump we will investigate you."
Why can't you folks figure this stuff out for yourselves?
 
Pardons are absolute. As per the constitution
Trump could have fun with this. Any law he doesn't like can be nullified by preemptively pardoning anyone who ever violates the law.
 
Trump could have fun with this. Any law he doesn't like can be nullified by preemptively pardoning anyone who ever violates the law.
You guys constantly bristle at the suggestion trump wants to be an autocrat and then you brag about actions he could take that are autocratic.
 
You guys constantly bristle at the suggestion trump wants to be an autocrat and then you brag about actions he could take that are autocratic.
He would just be preemptively pardoning people like Pedo Joe did for his son.
 
You know the investigation of Hunter by Weiss has been going on since 2018, right? House Repubs also investigated him.
And the pardon tells me that they're on the right track.
 
He would just be preemptively pardoning people like Pedo Joe did for his son.
It never fails that when I discuss something with a trumple long enough they always tell a lie trying to make their point.

"Any law he doesn't like can be nullified by preemptively pardoning anyone who ever violates the law."

That isn't what Biden did.
 
If Biden wants to out all the known political criminals in our country, so be it.

I just hope people remember it next time they vote.
 
It never fails that when I discuss something with a trumple long enough they always tell a lie trying to make their point.

"Any law he doesn't like can be nullified by preemptively pardoning anyone who ever violates the law."

That isn't what Biden did.
That's what he did. He nullified all the laws Hunter broke, or rather nullified them for Hunter. Trump should just extend that nullification to all Americans. Equal protection of the laws.
 
Funny that Dems today are defending mass blanket pardons for people who have not even been charged with a crime.

A few years ago they were outraged when Trump pardoned Joe Arpaio on a misdemeanor contempt of court charge, and called it an abuse of power and an attack on the Constitution... :icon_rolleyes:
 
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