Some on the Right have tried to draw a parallel between Biden's pardon of Hunter and trump's pardon

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So you agree that the DoJ under Biden is corrupt, since it was his DoJ who prosecuted Hunter.

No one of sound mind thinks anything of the sort.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

What is it about trump, Bondi, Patel, announcing their intention to abuse the power of the DoJ that you don't understand?

They said that they were going to go after criminals. You can read between the lines all you want, but none of them said that they were going to abuse their power.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

There is no constitutional principle on which immunity was conveyed.

Go read the Supremacy Clause. States can't make it illegal for Presidents to do what is authorized by the Constitution (i.e. an official act).

 

[LeroyDumonde]

No one of sound mind thinks anything of the sort.

So the DoJ's prosecution of Hunter Biden was not political?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So the DoJ's prosecution of Hunter Biden was not political?

I don't think so. Trump's prosecutions were political and justice.

 

[berg80]

So you agree that the DoJ under Biden is corrupt, since it was his DoJ who prosecuted Hunter.

David Weiss was a carry over from the trump DoJ.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

David Weiss was a carry over from the trump DoJ.

And he was named special counsel by Merrick Garland.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

What is it about trump, Bondi, Patel, announcing their intention to abuse the power of the DoJ that you don't understand?

They never said “we will abuse the justice system”… they’ve said some things that lead to thinking they will Investigate people.

Is investigating equal to “abuse”?

Are investigations only bad when Republicans do it? Democrats did tons of pointed investigations with clear political agendas

How are you this twisted?

 

[berg80]

So the DoJ's prosecution of Hunter Biden was not political?

It was political for a few reasons. He never would have been charged if not for being a way to smear Joe. Weiss never would have been retained if Biden didn't want to avoid the appearance of impropriety.........not a concern for Baby Donald. A plea deal would have been consummated if not for the objections of House Repubs. The indictment, the trial, the conviction, the pardon........none of it would have happened if the case involved a child of trump's because Baby Donald would have stopped it as soon as he was elected. Claiming his child was being unfairly persecuted. And all you folks would have nodded approvingly.

 

[berg80]

And he was named special counsel by Merrick Garland.

His status was elevated to SC by Garland but as the US Attorney in a district in DE he had already started his investigation while trump was prez.
Weiss and Durham were the only two US Attorneys retained by Biden so as not to interfere with the work they began under trump.
You don't actually believe trump would not have fired them if the situation was reversed do you?

 

[LeroyDumonde]

It was political for a few reasons. He never would have been charged if not for being a way to smear Joe.

So are you saying that the Biden DoJ regularly ignores felony violations of federal law?

Weiss never would have been retained if Biden didn't want to avoid the appearance of impropriety.........not a concern for Baby Donald.

So Biden is responsible for the corrupt investigation of his son?

A plea deal would have been consummated if not for the objections of House Repubs.

Actually it was a judge who saw that the plea deal was political and not in the interests of justice.

The indictment, the trial, the conviction, the pardon........none of it would have happened if the case involved a child of trump's because Baby Donald would have stopped it as soon as he was elected.

Why didn't Trump stop the investigation of himself the first time around?

 

[berg80]

They said that they were going to go after criminals.

“We will go out and find the conspirators, not just in government, but in the media. Yes, we’re going to come after the people in the media who lied about American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections.”

We’ve Seen Kash Patel’s Enemies List. It’s Terrifying.

It's like J. Edgar Hoover on steroids and on acid at the same time.

slate.com

 

[berg80]

So are you saying that the Biden DoJ regularly ignores felony violations of federal law?

I'm glad to defend what I said, but not what I didn't say.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

His status was elevated to SC by Garland but as the US Attorney in a district in DE he had already started his investigation while trump was prez.

Garland didn't have to make him a special counsel.

Weiss and Durham were the only two US Attorneys retained by Biden so as not to interfere with the work they began under trump.

Because he knew he was going to pardon Hunter if the politicized plea deal fell through.

You don't actually believe trump would not have fired them if the situation was reversed do you?

Trump didn't fire Rod Rosenstein even though he lied multiple time to the FISA court while spying on Trump.

 

[berg80]

Why didn't Trump stop the investigation of himself the first time around?

His advisers likely told him it would have been an impeachable offense.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

“We will go out and find the conspirators, not just in government, but in the media. Yes, we’re going to come after the people in the media who lied about American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections.”

We’ve Seen Kash Patel’s Enemies List. It’s Terrifying.

It's like J. Edgar Hoover on steroids and on acid at the same time.

slate.com

Interfering in an election is a crime.

 

[berg80]

Garland didn't have to make him a special counsel.

That's right. Owing to how Garland bent over backwards to avoid charges of bias throughout his tenure.

 

[berg80]

Interfering in an election is a crime.

There was no interference on Biden's or the media's part. The specious allegation is just a furtherance of the attempt to perpetuate the Big Lie.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

His advisers likely told him it would have been an impeachable offense.

Trump would have known that the Senate didn't have enough votes to remove him from office even if Democrats could cobble together enough votes in the House to impeach.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

There was no interference on Biden's or the media's part. The specious allegation is just a furtherance of the attempt to perpetuate the Big Lie.

If there was no interference then you don't have to fear an investigation.