Some Gays Turn Attention to Civil Unions

[Sunni Man]

I don't know why....gay people have been marrying each other non-civilly as far back as history can remember.

Just because Gay people have been shacking up and calling them self man and man doesn't count. How can you even consider that. Give me one example of a serious push for Gay Marriage before 1950. It didn't become a real issue until about 1990.

You obviously don't know history.
Gay History - Famous Homosexual Couples of Ancient Greece - The World History of Male Love

Big deal. One society went homo well over 2 thousnad years ago.

The Greeks eventually become so immoral, sick and corrupt, due to rampant homosexuality.

That the country collasped from it's decadence and was conquered by the Romans.

 

[bodecea]

I don't know why....gay people have been marrying each other non-civilly as far back as history can remember.

Just because Gay people have been shacking up and calling them self man and man doesn't count.

See? You and your ilk are sticking your noses into our business AGAIN and telling us what our relationships are and are not. Arrogant and Voyeurist, all in one.

How can you even consider that.

Quite easily. How can you possibly call yourself married?

Give me one example of a serious push for Gay Marriage before 1950. It didn't become a real issue until about 1990.

Exactly....it's called evolution. First we had to get past the point of people arresting us, firing us, or institutionalizing us just for BEING gay.

 

[Sunni Man]

Exactly....it's called evolution.

Evolution???

exactly how and what are you evolving into?

 

[bodecea]

Just because Gay people have been shacking up and calling them self man and man doesn't count. How can you even consider that. Give me one example of a serious push for Gay Marriage before 1950. It didn't become a real issue until about 1990.

You obviously don't know history.
Gay History - Famous Homosexual Couples of Ancient Greece - The World History of Male Love

Big deal. One society went homo well over 2 thousnad years ago.

The Greeks eventually become so immoral, sick and corrupt, due to rampant homosexuality.

You don't know your Western History very well...the Greeks weakened because of the Peloponnesian War (caused by Athens arrogantly trying to force themselves upon the other city-stats)...and the rise of Macedonia.

That the country collasped from it's decadence and was conquered by the Romans.

No, the Macedonian/Greek Empire of Alexander's descendents fell to the Romans because they WERE so rich and so successful, the Romans envied them and took them over.


The Romans collapsed after the Christians took over.

 

[CurveLight]

Just because Gay people have been shacking up and calling them self man and man doesn't count. How can you even consider that. Give me one example of a serious push for Gay Marriage before 1950. It didn't become a real issue until about 1990.

You obviously don't know history.
Gay History - Famous Homosexual Couples of Ancient Greece - The World History of Male Love

Big deal. One society went homo well over 2 thousnad years ago.

The Greeks eventually become so immoral, sick and corrupt, due to rampant homosexuality.

That the country collasped from it's decadence and was conquered by the Romans.

Bigots revealing their ignorance always help show why bigotry is the Flag of the Arrogant.

 

[bodecea]

Exactly....it's called evolution.

Evolution???

exactly how and what are you evolving into?

The Evolution of Society.
Evolving from finding slavery acceptable to banning it.

Evolving from treating women like chattle.

Evolving from child labor.

Evolving from overt, institutionalized racism.

Evolving from treating the mental ill like criminals.

Evolving from thinking the Universe revolves around the Earth.

Evolving from forcing a particular religion on people at the barrel of a gun.

That kind of evolving.

 

[Sunni Man]

The Romans collapsed after the Christians took over.

The Romans conquered the Greeks, but saddly adopted their perverted ways.

Within a few centuries, they had become so totally infected by the Greek sodomite culture.

That the Roman society collasped of homosexual decadence just like the Greeks before them.

 

[Immanuel]

Exactly....it's called evolution. First we had to get past the point of people arresting us, firing us, or institutionalizing us just for BEING gay.

Not to derail your thoughts, but that is what I was was attempting to say a few days ago in my disagreement with CL regarding lawsuits. It is a progression. Steps had to be taken. Homosexuals granted the right to marry in MA and CA could not simply jump in to court and demand their right to be married in the church of their choosing. They have to take the necessary steps to get to a point where they can win.

That does not mean that I think they should or should not win in court. It means that I think they have to take their time. What is that saying? "Rome wasn't built in a day"?

Immie

 

[Sunni Man]

Exactly....it's called evolution.

Evolution???

exactly how and what are you evolving into?

The Evolution of Society.

It always makes me laugh, when I hear a sodomite talking about how homosexuality is evolving society.

Exactly how is two gay perverts packing each others fudge a sign of society advancing or evolving???

 

[Valerie]

Evolution???

exactly how and what are you evolving into?

The Evolution of Society.

It always makes me laugh, when I hear a sodomite talking about how homosexuality is evolving society.

Exactly how is two gay perverts packing each others fudge a sign of society advancing or evolving???

The evolution is the acceptance as opposed to the denial...By those who ARE gay and no longer hiding it and also by those who encounter gay people in their every day lives. So MOST people have become more civilized about how they treat people who happen to be gay in their families, in their work place, in their neighborhood, etc.


As far as the issue of Civil Marriage, what the gays need to do is properly petition their respective states to recognize their committed partnerships equal to marriage. The process has gone assbackwards in many states, causing unnecessary polarization and anger among otherwise good rational people.

 

[bodecea]

The Romans collapsed after the Christians took over.

The Romans conquered the Greeks, but saddly adopted their perverted ways.

Within a few centuries, they had become so totally infected by the Greek sodomite culture.

That the Roman society collasped of homosexual decadence just like the Greeks before them.

I look revisionist history.

The Romans collapsed after the Christians took over....the more "decadent" Eastern Empire lasted until the 1500s.


Maybe someday, you can actually read a history book, Sunni.

 

[bodecea]

Exactly....it's called evolution. First we had to get past the point of people arresting us, firing us, or institutionalizing us just for BEING gay.

Not to derail your thoughts, but that is what I was was attempting to say a few days ago in my disagreement with CL regarding lawsuits. It is a progression. Steps had to be taken. Homosexuals granted the right to marry in MA and CA could not simply jump in to court and demand their right to be married in the church of their choosing. They have to take the necessary steps to get to a point where they can win.

That does not mean that I think they should or should not win in court. It means that I think they have to take their time. What is that saying? "Rome wasn't built in a day"?

Immie

So, how is that "progression" of interracial and interfaith couples jumping into court to demand their right to be married in the church of their choosing doing?

 

[bodecea]

Evolution???

exactly how and what are you evolving into?

The Evolution of Society.

It always makes me laugh, when I hear a sodomite talking about how homosexuality is evolving society.

Exactly how is two gay perverts packing each others fudge a sign of society advancing or evolving???

I just love how you dwell on such mental imagery. You must spend a lot of time thinking about us and what we do in the bedroom. I'm guessing more than we do.

And the way a society treats its fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens...even if some people find what they do in the privacy of their own homes "icky"....yes, that is Evolution.

 

[Sunni Man]

So MOST people have become more civilized about how they treat people who happen to be gay in their families, in their work place, in their neighborhood, etc.

Since I do the hiring at the corporation where I work.

We have NO homos in the work place.

There are NO faggots in the family.

And as far as I know. NO sodomites in our neighborhood.

Yet we are civilized people and strive to treat all "normal" people fairly and with compassion.

 

[CurveLight]

So MOST people have become more civilized about how they treat people who happen to be gay in their families, in their work place, in their neighborhood, etc.

Since I do the hiring at the corporation where I work.

We have NO homos in the work place.

There are NO faggots in the family.

And as far as I know. NO sodomites in our neighborhood.

Yet we are civilized people and strive to treat all "normal" people fairly and with compassion.

What corporation?

 

[Sunni Man]

What corporation?

Why?

You need a job??

 

[Immanuel]

Exactly....it's called evolution. First we had to get past the point of people arresting us, firing us, or institutionalizing us just for BEING gay.

Not to derail your thoughts, but that is what I was was attempting to say a few days ago in my disagreement with CL regarding lawsuits. It is a progression. Steps had to be taken. Homosexuals granted the right to marry in MA and CA could not simply jump in to court and demand their right to be married in the church of their choosing. They have to take the necessary steps to get to a point where they can win.

That does not mean that I think they should or should not win in court. It means that I think they have to take their time. What is that saying? "Rome wasn't built in a day"?

Immie

So, how is that "progression" of interracial and interfaith couples jumping into court to demand their right to be married in the church of their choosing doing?

I honestly don't know. I am not following the issues.

I get the impression that you think I am wrong, but the funny thing is that I am agreeing with you. What my statement means is that the gay community knows that it will not win in court under today's environment. They are smart enough to know that this is going to take time.

Just because interracial and interfaith couples may not have won complete acceptance today does not mean that the gay community should just give up? Maybe I'm confused about what you are trying to say here.

Immie

 

[Valerie]

So MOST people have become more civilized about how they treat people who happen to be gay in their families, in their work place, in their neighborhood, etc.

Since I do the hiring at the corporation where I work.

We have NO homos in the work place.

There are NO faggots in the family.

And as far as I know. NO sodomites in our neighborhood.

Yet we are civilized people and strive to treat all "normal" people fairly and with compassion.

Sure you do, Mighty Mouse, sure you do.


That was an excellent demonstration of where you fall on that evolutionary scale!

 

[Sunni Man]

So MOST people have become more civilized about how they treat people who happen to be gay in their families, in their work place, in their neighborhood, etc.

Since I do the hiring at the corporation where I work.

We have NO homos in the work place.

There are NO faggots in the family.

And as far as I know. NO sodomites in our neighborhood.

Sure you do, Mighty Mouse, sure you do.

It's kind of strange though.

Everytime I interview a job applicant that displays homo behavior.

They are always over qualified or under qualified for the job.

Kind of funny how it always seems to work out that way.

 

[bodecea]

So MOST people have become more civilized about how they treat people who happen to be gay in their families, in their work place, in their neighborhood, etc.

Since I do the hiring at the corporation where I work.

We have NO homos in the work place.

That you know of...and you think they're gonna tell YOU?

There are NO faggots in the family.

That you know of...and you think they're gonna tell YOU?

And as far as I know. NO sodomites in our neighborhood.

No luck in spotting them in your nightly forays peeking in neighbors' windows yet?

Yet we are civilized people and strive to treat all "normal" people fairly and with compassion.

Some are more civilized than others.