Socialists claim the workers own the mean of production but thats impossible

[Hafar1014]

In socialism the state owns the means of production and the workers own nothing. The only way a worker can own equity in a company is by buying stock in the company. Thats capitalism.

 

[Moonglow]

If the people do not control the means of production, then it isn't socialism, just like communism is supposed to be a stateless state...

 

[Marener]

In socialism the state owns the means of production and the workers own nothing. The only way a worker can own equity in a company is by buying stock in the company. Thats capitalism.

The glory days of owning stock are past us. The future is private equity.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The glory days of owning stock are past us. The future is private equity.

You IDIOTS should make up your minds as to what EQUITY actually IS.

 

[Hafar1014]

The glory days of owning stock are past us. The future is private equity.

Why just open an account and share in the wealth.

 

[Moonglow]

You IDIOTS should make up your minds as to what EQUITY actually IS.

It's not horse riding.

 

[Hafar1014]

If the people do not control the means of production, then it isn't socialism, just like communism is supposed to be a stateless state...

Its the lie of socialism believed by idiots and failures

 

[Hafar1014]

You IDIOTS should make up your minds as to what EQUITY actually IS.

Stocks are equity

 

[konradv]

In socialism the state owns the means of production and the workers own nothing. The only way a worker can own equity in a company is by buying stock in the company. Thats capitalism.

What is it called when the government owns a stake in private companies?

US to take 10% equity stake in Intel, in Trump's latest corporate move -Reuters

 

[Marener]

Why just open an account and share in the wealth.

You can’t open an account with private equity.

They’re private.

 

[Moonglow]

Its the lie of socialism believed by idiots and failures

Socialism is not the liar; only humans are the liars.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Stocks are equity

Yes, I know that. But, these SJW morons have hijacked the term in place of EQUALITY because Marxists ALWAYS butcher the language as they plunge headlong into their dystopian nightmare.

 

[Hafar1014]

Socialism is not the liar; only humans are the liars.

socialist humans

 

[Dragonlady]

In socialism the state owns the means of production and the workers own nothing. The only way a worker can own equity in a company is by buying stock in the company. Thats capitalism.

That's communism. In social democracies, the state REGULATES the means of production. The nation is run as a partnership between the people, the businesses and the government. Government taking on the role of doing things that "for profit" cannot do well, or which require universal access - like water, electricity, health care and education.

Western democracies, including the USA, are all social democracies. But the USA has the weakest social safety net of all of the Western democracies and Trump is busy dismantling what little socialism you do have. You are the only first world nation without universal, government funded health care for EVERYONE living in your country. You are the ONLY first world nation which is publicly funding private and charter schools and underfunding public education.

Last but certainly not least, you have more people in jails and prisons that any other nation in the world. You are a full blown police state locking up more people than China or Russia, through "zero tolerance" programs and over-policing of minority communities. And now Trump is putting the military on patrol in states which didn't vote for him.

You're on the verge of becoming a full blown military dictatorship. Sieg Heil!

 

[Moonglow]

socialist humans

They may espouse socialist ideals, but they do not live in a socialist economy. No country has ever been a true socialist nation in the industrialized world.

 

[22lcidw]

Socialism is not the liar; only humans are the liars.

When your Communism comes to power, without exterminating people if I was empowered, I would sterilize the irresponsible population that cost civilization massive wealth. That would be humane. Until exterminating becomes necessary.

 

[Moonglow]

When your Communism comes to power, without exterminating people if I was empowered, I would sterilize the irresponsible population that cost civilization massive wealth. That would be humane. Until exterminating becomes necessary.

I have no communism to give...M'kay..

 

[SeaMajor7]

That's communism. In social democracies, the state REGULATES the means of production. The nation is run as a partnership between the people, the businesses and the government. Government taking on the role of doing things that "for profit" cannot do well, or which require universal access - like water, electricity, health care and education.

Western democracies, including the USA, are all social democracies. But the USA has the weakest social safety net of all of the Western democracies and Trump is busy dismantling what little socialism you do have. You are the only first world nation without universal, government funded health care for EVERYONE living in your country. You are the ONLY first world nation which is publicly funding private and charter schools and underfunding public education.

Last but certainly not least, you have more people in jails and prisons that any other nation in the world. You are a full blown police state locking up more people than China or Russia, through "zero tolerance" programs and over-policing of minority communities. And now Trump is putting the military on patrol in states which didn't vote for him.

You're on the verge of becoming a full blown military dictatorship. Sieg Heil!

Swim to CUBA, hoser.

 

[Hafar1014]

They may espouse socialist ideals, but they do not live in a socialist economy. No country has ever been a true socialist nation in the industrialized world.

Thats the lame excuse for the 100% failure of socialism. "True Socialism" is failure every time its tried

 

[Hafar1014]

That's communism. In social democracies, the state REGULATES the means of production. The nation is run as a partnership between the people, the businesses and the government. Government taking on the role of doing things that "for profit" cannot do well, or which require universal access - like water, electricity, health care and education.

Western democracies, including the USA, are all social democracies. But the USA has the weakest social safety net of all of the Western democracies and Trump is busy dismantling what little socialism you do have. You are the only first world nation without universal, government funded health care for EVERYONE living in your country. You are the ONLY first world nation which is publicly funding private and charter schools and underfunding public education.

Last but certainly not least, you have more people in jails and prisons that any other nation in the world. You are a full blown police state locking up more people than China or Russia, through "zero tolerance" programs and over-policing of minority communities. And now Trump is putting the military on patrol in states which didn't vote for him.

You're on the verge of becoming a full blown military dictatorship. Sieg Heil!

Socialism and communism are the same. The state controls everything