Socialism ready to save red state rubes from hurricane Dorian.

[Eric Arthur Blair]

It's all taking from one to give to another. This is how people argue "socialism" when they don't like who the money is going to.

If it's going to something they approve of or themselves, all is great. If not it's "socialism".

What part of "one time disaster relief" do you not understand? This is an appropriate use of taxpayer money in response to Acts of God unlike endless monthly welfare checks.

You might as well claim the fire department takes from one to give to others. Get a life and stop the disingenuous b.s.

 

[Faun]

It's all taking from one to give to another. This is how people argue "socialism" when they don't like who the money is going to.

If it's going to something they approve of or themselves, all is great. If not it's "socialism".

What part of "one time disaster relief" do you not understand? This is an appropriate use of taxpayer money in response to Acts of God unlike endless monthly welfare checks.

You might as well claim the fire department takes from one to give to others. Get a life and stop the disingenuous b.s.

Great, then you should be in favor of national healthcare.

 

[hjmick]

Do they pay their taxes? Yes. Now shut the **** up.

Some do, some don't. All will benefit. But since you think the government should spread the wealth, then certainly you're in favor of doing the same for healthcare, right?

Where did I say I think the government should spread the wealth? Show me... I'll wait...

That's what FEMA does. It provides tax dollars to those who need it.

And where do they get those tax dollars? All they're doing is giving tax dollars back to some of those who paid them in a time of dire need. If they want to lower taxes and do away with FEMA, I'd have no problem with that. But as long as it's there, and as long as it's funded by tax dollars, I see no problem with people availing themselves of its services.

As for myself, though I have ridden out many a natural disaster and their related damages, from the Northridge earthquake of '93, brush fires, tropical storms, and hurricanes, I have never asked the federal or state governments for a penny. Not once.

What happened to the rightarded creed of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps?

You have obviously mistaken me for someone else...

But since you mention... there is nothing wrong with that idea, though I think it refers more to personal and professional success than it does with recovering from devastating natural disasters.

Sometimes folks need help with that, and as long as their tax dollars fund a branch of government whose purpose is to facilitate that recovery...

 

[pknopp]

It's all taking from one to give to another. This is how people argue "socialism" when they don't like who the money is going to.

If it's going to something they approve of or themselves, all is great. If not it's "socialism".

What part of "one time disaster relief" do you not understand? This is an appropriate use of taxpayer money in response to Acts of God unlike endless monthly welfare checks.

You might as well claim the fire department takes from one to give to others. Get a life and stop the disingenuous b.s.

Great....it's OK to steal other people money as long as you agree with it.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

It's sad that you consider those who teach our children wanting a raise as being greedy.

My brother was a school teacher and my daughter currently is one too.
They didn't suddenly become saints when they went to work for some school district and the teacher's public employee unions sure as hell ain't a collection of marvelous humanitarians either.
Your emotional appeals are absurd.

I think this likely says it all.

I agree. You should stfu.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Great....it's OK to steal other people money as long as you agree with it.

It's called paying your taxes and it's a form of insurance. So when your house catches fire or an earthquake strikes you will receive appropriate assistance based on the damage done to your home. No "stealing" involved.

You are the worst keyboard debate king I've ever seen. You're a joke but not the funny kind.

 

[Faun]

Do they pay their taxes? Yes. Now shut the **** up.

Some do, some don't. All will benefit. But since you think the government should spread the wealth, then certainly you're in favor of doing the same for healthcare, right?

Where did I say I think the government should spread the wealth? Show me... I'll wait...

That's what FEMA does. It provides tax dollars to those who need it.

And where do they get those tax dollars? All they're doing is giving tax dollars back to some of those who paid them in a time of dire need. If they want to lower taxes and do away with FEMA, I'd have no problem with that. But as long as it's there, and as long as it's funded by tax dollars, I see no problem with people availing themselves of its services.

As for myself, though I have ridden out many a natural disaster and their related damages, from the Northridge earthquake of '93, brush fires, tropical storms, and hurricanes, I have never asked the federal or state governments for a penny. Not once.

What happened to the rightarded creed of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps?

You have obviously mistaken me for someone else...

But since you mention... there is nothing wrong with that idea, though I think it refers more to personal and professional success than it does with recovering from devastating natural disasters.

Sometimes folks need help with that, and as long as their tax dollars fund a branch of government whose purpose is to facilitate that recovery...

Again, not all recipients of FEMA aid pay taxes. So you fail there again. Ans since you're in favor of utilizing tax dollars to help out those who need help, why not help those who need medical help?

 

[Faun]

Great....it's OK to steal other people money as long as you agree with it.

It's called paying your taxes and it's a form of insurance. So when your house catches fire or an earthquake strikes you will receive appropriate assistance based on the damage done to your home. No "stealing" involved.

You are the worst keyboard debate king I've ever seen. You're a joke but not the funny kind.

What the **** kind of stupid argument is that? FEMA doesn't check if the people they help pay federal taxes.

 

[pknopp]

It's sad that you consider those who teach our children wanting a raise as being greedy.

My brother was a school teacher and my daughter currently is one too.
They didn't suddenly become saints when they went to work for some school district and the teacher's public employee unions sure as hell ain't a collection of marvelous humanitarians either.
Your emotional appeals are absurd.

I think this likely says it all.

I agree. You should stfu.

One does not have to be a "saint" to deserve a pay raise.

 

[pknopp]

Great....it's OK to steal other people money as long as you agree with it.

It's called paying your taxes and it's a form of insurance. So when your house catches fire or an earthquake strikes you will receive appropriate assistance based on the damage done to your home. No "stealing" involved.

You are the worst keyboard debate king I've ever seen. You're a joke but not the funny kind.

I've never received a penny from FEMA. Quit stealing my money. Get a second job to fix your house. Move in with the neighbors if you have to.

 

[Soupnazi630]

FEMA chief: ‘Plenty of money’ for Hurricane Dorian despite budget transfer

Good news Conservatives in the southeast . Your fema welfare checks and help will be there for you for your annual natural disaster.

But can you explain to me that this isnt the very big government socialist welfare programs you cons constantly rail against ?

Because that is not socialism

Try and learn what words mean

 

[TNHarley]

Good grief. If socialism is the answer wtf is wrong with Venezuela

You can argue that all you want but this is Socialism. We have done this for decades.

Unconstitutional. We need an amendment or to stop doing it.

It's not unconstitutional to help people out.

It is when the fed gov does it

 

[TNHarley]

So there actually are people here who against the government stepping in to help.

At least they're willing to admit it, as sad as it is.

That's gotta be a horrible way to go through life.
.

All they need is an amendment and I would support it.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Good grief. If socialism is the answer wtf is wrong with Venezuela

You can argue that all you want but this is Socialism. We have done this for decades.

Wrong this is not socialism

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

One does not have to be a "saint" to deserve a pay raise.

Maybe you should stop framing a teacher's pay raise as appropriate then based on the work they happen to do.
The question of New Jersey teacher's demands for a pay raise should be based on issues pertinent to the matter.
Not whether they are idealistic saints or not.

 

[pknopp]

Good grief. If socialism is the answer wtf is wrong with Venezuela

You can argue that all you want but this is Socialism. We have done this for decades.

Unconstitutional. We need an amendment or to stop doing it.

It's not unconstitutional to help people out.

It is when the fed gov does it

And yet, it isn't.

 

[TNHarley]

Good grief. If socialism is the answer wtf is wrong with Venezuela

You can argue that all you want but this is Socialism. We have done this for decades.

Unconstitutional. We need an amendment or to stop doing it.

It's not unconstitutional to help people out.

It is when the fed gov does it

And yet, it isn't.

You dont seem to know much of anything.
Show me where the fed gov has the authority to help out regional or local disasters.

 

[pknopp]

One does not have to be a "saint" to deserve a pay raise.

Maybe you should stop framing a teacher's pay raise as appropriate then based on the work they happen to do.
The question of New Jersey teacher's demands for a pay raise should be based on issues pertinent to the matter.
Not whether they are idealistic saints or not.

You mentioned "saints" not me. If it's irrelevant to the discussion don't bring it up.

 

[pknopp]

You can argue that all you want but this is Socialism. We have done this for decades.

Unconstitutional. We need an amendment or to stop doing it.

It's not unconstitutional to help people out.

It is when the fed gov does it

And yet, it isn't.

You dont seem to know much of anything.
Show me where the fed gov has the authority to help out regional or local disasters.

We see it all the time. Bring a lawsuit to stop it.

Good luck.

 

[TNHarley]

Couple hundred years or so ago Savannah GA burned to the ground. People wanted the fed gov to help them. Congress said they dont have the authority to help local issues.
I wish we had that Congress now so our gov wouldnt be so bloated and useless.