Socialism Has Failed Period

[Dagosa]

https://www.hoover.org/research/sociali ... led-period

The authors reviewed numerous nations that tried socialism or Communism. Socialism is an economic system, while Communist is the name of a political party.
The only 3 nations that still have Communism/socialism are North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba.

Socialism sounds good in theory, but it does not work in the real world.
Many nations have a welfare state, but that is not socialism because they still allow private ownership of industry and stores.

We still have SS, Medicare and the public highways, the post office and interstates . How has socialism failed ? Look up what socialism is. Oh, you don’t use dictionaries and just make up shit. Works for you.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Every modern western society is built in socialism. It cannot expand and drvelop without it. You enjoy everyday but probably don't know it is here today.

Can't you see your veneer thin pathetic hate filled ignorant argument is flawed?

 

[MisterBeale]

Why not? This method has always been in the arsenal of capitalist propaganda.

Precisely.

It is not the people that lie, deceive, and hide facts and truth. It is not the people that seek to destroy the rights of mankind, the small farmer, the local businessman, or the integrity of the family and the individual.

It is the oligarchical collectivists that perfected these methods. . . and by you claiming to be a "socialist," you do the bidding of these evil men, seeking to enslave the masses of the world. It is not about economic systems, but, in the final analysis, it is about shifting the loci of power. I honestly do not understand folks that want to give these psychopaths more power.

Propaganda by Edward Bernays (1928)

www.historyisaweapon.org

 

[MisterBeale]

Most corruption is from republitards, since Nixon.

The folks in control of the system own all the parties, and all the institutions, and important media, the schools, you name it.

If you don't get this, then you are trained to see superficial differences, and focus on irrelevant things, so you don't see the man behind the curtain.

 

[MisterBeale]

Every modern western society is built in socialism. It cannot expand and drvelop without it.

Socialism?

Nope.

Dirgisme=Fascism

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Under true capitalism, the investor bears the risk. In these sectors of the economy, those giant companies don't seem to have any risk whatsoever. The government bails them out with trillion-dollar handouts.

Which handouts? When?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Cuba has more foreign tourists than Detroit.

 

[Colin norris]

Socialism?

Nope.

Dirgisme=Fascism

I deliberately ignored your lack of intelligence on the subject hoping you could absorb some knowledge on the matter.
You're reply is some childish cartoons and silly pics. You can see why I tried to explain it to you but it it didn't work.

Your interpretation of socialism has never been tried in America so you know nothing about it. You're as dumb as dogshit.

But your story, as spurious as it is, was well plagairised.

 

[MisterBeale]

I deliberately ignored your lack of intelligence on the subject hoping you could absorb some knowledge on the matter.
You're reply is some childish cartoons and silly pics. You can see why I tried to explain it to you but it it didn't work.

Your interpretation of socialism has never been tried in America so you know nothing about it. You're as dumb as dogshit.

But your story, as spurious as it is, was well plagairised.

 

[Colin norris]

Piss off with you silly pics.
You're nothing.

 

[MisterBeale]

Your interpretation of socialism has never been tried in America so you know nothing about it.

We're ALL Socialists NOW!

 

[Samofvt]

Which handouts? When?

S&L banking system bailout 1989/1990
Motor company bailout late 2000's
Sub Prime mortgage company bailouts 2008-2010
Covid pandemic bailout 2020 (less than 25% of the 2 trillion went to people, the rest went to bailout companies and the medical system)

These are the glaring examples in recent times. There are others.

There are also large sums of money handed out in the form of grants and contracts, like to facebook for providing data they have collected about their users. Sure, you could argue these budget items are for "services rendered", but what's really going on is the government is subsidizing these companies at above market value rates...handouts.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

S&L banking system bailout 1989/1990
Motor company bailout late 2000's
Sub Prime mortgage company bailouts 2008-2010
Covid pandemic bailout 2020 (less than 25% of the 2 trillion went to people, the rest went to bailout companies and the medical system)

These are the glaring examples in recent times. There are others.

There are also large sums of money handed out in the form of grants and contracts, like to facebook for providing data they have collected about their users. Sure, you could argue these budget items are for "services rendered", but what's really going on is the government is subsidizing these companies at above market value rates...handouts.

S&L banking system bailout 1989/1990

The government bailed out the S&Ls? Handed them money? How much? Which ones?

Motor company bailout late 2000's

You said a bailout meant the investors didn't bear any risk, those investors lost it all.

Sub Prime mortgage company bailouts 2008-2010

Which subprime companies were handed money? How much?

 

[Smokin' OP]

The folks in control of the system own all the parties, and all the institutions, and important media, the schools, you name it.

If you don't get this, then you are trained to see superficial differences, and focus on irrelevant things, so you don't see the man behind the curtain.

Of course, the 'Deep State'.
The excuse that replaced George Soros.

 

[Dagosa]

Kind of silly. The tax collectors of Nottingham gave back no services.
If they did repair roads and provide healthcare with their tax dollars, there would be no need for a “Robin Hood.”

Medicare has a 2% overhead, private insurance starts at 7%.

 

[Dagosa]

Of course, the 'Deep State'.
The excuse that replaced George Soros.

Yup, the hard working men and women who run government on the ground and see that get your SS checks out, and plow your roads and check your luggage at the airport are all part of the ‘deep state’. The right hates them, until their checks don’t come in and the roads are left un plowed or a terrorist takes a plane. Then, they are the first to whine.

 

[Flash]

The two biggest threats to America, Russia and China yet you say it has failed. You're not that smart sonny.

Many of our states have a GDP greater than Russia's.

The only reason China is doing well is that the greedy Unions have forced American manufacturing to used China's cheap labor and we have allow them to steal our technology.

Now that their man is in the White House they will do even better.

 

[Ringo]

To all supporters of a return to "normal", industrial capitalism, I will say: there is no way back, financial capitalism is your "normal capitalism", the best possible (the next phase is fasсism). Only he provides resources at today's level with the plunder of the future.
Сapitalism in the 1980s found, as it seemed to him, a "philosopher's stone" in the form of a wild robbery of the future, has since mimicked into the most delusional version of virtual financial capitalism. But even in fairy tales, at midnight, a luxurious carriage turns into a pumpkin
Compare this with the world's first socialist state, which managed to become a superpower with its own world system in a completely hostile environment. This is for those who: "socialism failed" nonsense

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

To all supporters of a return to "normal", industrial capitalism, I will say: there is no way back, financial capitalism is your "normal capitalism", the best possible (the next phase is fasсism). Only he provides resources at today's level with the plunder of the future.
Сapitalism in the 1980s found, as it seemed to him, a "philosopher's stone" in the form of a wild robbery of the future, has since mimicked into the most delusional version of virtual financial capitalism. But even in fairy tales, at midnight, a luxurious carriage turns into a pumpkin
Compare this with the world's first socialist state, which managed to become a superpower with its own world system in a completely hostile environment. This is for those who: "socialism failed" nonsense

Borrowed money doesn't play a part in Gross Domestic Production?

Sure, if you want to use a made up stat.

Our 2020 GDP was about $21 trillion. Why would you "remove the ability to borrow" from that?
And why would we need a reserve? Or an "alternative wealth measure"?
Whoever came up with that sounds like a moron. Or a commie. But I repeat myself.

 

[Colin norris]

Many of our states have a GDP greater than Russia's.

The only reason China is doing well is that the greedy Unions have forced American manufacturing to used China's cheap labor and we have allow them to steal our technology.

Now that their man is in the White House they will do even better.

Everything you say originated from hate and lies. Grow up you ignoramus.