Social Security Discussion

[Rshermr]

Retard. No one likes SS. NO ONE but you.

Wow, the irony of you calling someone a retard then proclaiming to speak for the opinion of a few hundred million people regarding absolute and universal dislike for the concept of social security is a treat to see.

It is funny, obviously. To rational people. But then, rkm is a proven congenital idiot. He does not read history, knows nothing of it. Even such recent history as W when he tried to push privatization of ss, and found his popularity dropping like a rock. But then, rkm has no clue. But he is good for a laugh.

 

[RKMBrown]

Retard. No one likes SS. NO ONE but you.

Wow, the irony of you calling someone a retard then proclaiming to speak for the opinion of a few hundred million people regarding absolute and universal dislike for the concept of social security is a treat to see.

It is funny, obviously. To rational people. But then, rkm is a proven congenital idiot. He does not read history, knows nothing of it. Even such recent history as W when he tried to push privatization of ss, and found his popularity dropping like a rock. But then, rkm has no clue. But he is good for a laugh.

I have millions in my 401k, I put in half as much in my 401k as has gone into SS. It's not my fault dumbocrats are math challenged. Bush's attempt to help our children out of SS was weak, but his heart was in the right place. I can understand why an evil scum bag like you wants to leech onto his grandchildren to force them to pay your way in life. But I don't have to like it.

 

[SteadyMercury]

The irony of someone trying to argue that any sane person would want to volutarily give up 15% of their income so that if they live long enough they might a small percentage of it back.

You're confusing your own opinion with that of millions of others who aren't you. You stated nobody supports social security but that one poster, that is utterly asinine.

Yes you can probably find people who have little to no income who are excited about the raise they will get when they are old enough to collect SS.

"Excited" might be a strong word but I support the concept of social security, and my wife and I both have six figure incomes. Again, you greatly overestimate your understanding of others' opinions and underestimate those who disagree with you.

 

[RKMBrown]

The irony of someone trying to argue that any sane person would want to volutarily give up 15% of their income so that if they live long enough they might a small percentage of it back.

You're confusing your own opinion with that of millions of others who aren't you. You stated nobody supports social security but that one poster, that is utterly asinine.

Yes you can probably find people who have little to no income who are excited about the raise they will get when they are old enough to collect SS.

"Excited" might be a strong word but I support the concept of social security, and my wife and I both have six figure incomes. Again, you greatly overestimate your understanding of others' opinions and underestimate those who disagree with you.

So you are happy to know that you finished paying into SS when you were 35 and every dime you put in after that is stolen money? So you are happy to know you are getting raped by this vile socialist ponzi?

Do you like getting raped? Do you enjoy paying ten dollars for every dime you get back?

 

[Politico]

Picture needing your SS and getting raped for over a decade.

 

[RKMBrown]

Picture needing your SS and getting raped for over a decade.

SS Sucks. For the money you put into SS your benefits should be at least 5times more and more importantly it should be yours in your own account accessible by you at any time for any purpose.

 

[Rshermr]

Picture needing your SS and getting raped for over a decade.

SS Sucks. For the money you put into SS your benefits should be at least 5times more and more importantly it should be yours in your own account accessible by you at any time for any purpose.

That is your opinion. But it depends on when you retire. If it was in 2010, for example, your retirement may well have been less. But the main thing is, our political representatives are ELECTED. And since their constituents do not want them touching ss, they will not. So, whatever. You want a investment program based on private investments and handled by private investors. Without any thought as to how you are going to get the investment dollars into the plan to pay out well for the retiree.

Here is the thing. If you are having some problem with ss, just go ahead and invest privately. And you would start to understand why many would not be able to follow your plan. Because they are living paycheck to paycheck without the ability to invest regularly. And in the end, they would loose everything. And, if we did not like that, and we saw hundreds of thousands on the streets as we did prior to ss, then we would be paying their retirement for them, just to keep them alive. Because, of course, most people do not like seeing others starving.
So, while a small percentage of the people, like you, think ss sucks, most think your idea of privatizing ss sucks. Ask W.

 

[expat_panama]

Picture needing your SS....

SS Sucks...

Both Obamacare and SS are alike in that nobody wants it except for those few that benefit from making sure others have no say in what happens to their money. If they were really great then they'd be voluntary. They're not so they aren't.

 

[Politico]

It is not opinion rshershersher. If someone is disabled they are supposed to get it back. That's the purpose of it. But the system is set up to find ways to not pay you in the hopes you will give up or die first.

 

[RKMBrown]

Picture needing your SS and getting raped for over a decade.

SS Sucks. For the money you put into SS your benefits should be at least 5times more and more importantly it should be yours in your own account accessible by you at any time for any purpose.

That is your opinion. But it depends on when you retire. If it was in 2010, for example, your retirement may well have been less. But the main thing is, our political representatives are ELECTED. And since their constituents do not want them touching ss, they will not. So, whatever. You want a investment program based on private investments and handled by private investors. Without any thought as to how you are going to get the investment dollars into the plan to pay out well for the retiree.

Here is the thing. If you are having some problem with ss, just go ahead and invest privately. And you would start to understand why many would not be able to follow your plan. Because they are living paycheck to paycheck without the ability to invest regularly. And in the end, they would loose everything. And, if we did not like that, and we saw hundreds of thousands on the streets as we did prior to ss, then we would be paying their retirement for them, just to keep them alive. Because, of course, most people do not like seeing others starving.
So, while a small percentage of the people, like you, think ss sucks, most think your idea of privatizing ss sucks. Ask W.

I DON'T HAVE A FRIGGIN CHOICE to invest 15% OF MY INCOME THE WAY I WANT TO INVEST IT. I want my SS money back, with interest, every dime of it. Frigging thieves.

 

[expat_panama]

...of course, most people do not like seeing others starving. So, while a small percentage of the people, like you, think ss sucks, most think your idea of privatizing ss sucks...

I DON'T HAVE A FRIGGIN CHOICE to invest 15% OF MY INCOME THE WAY I WANT TO INVEST IT. I want my SS money back, with interest, every dime of it. Frigging thieves.

"Fairness" from the left:

--the bad guy is the one that wants to keep his money and the kid trying to take it is the victim.

 

[Kimura]

We should just get rid of the SS tax. It's so damn regressive.

I think we should just get a funding guarantee from Congress and make SS payments out of the general revenue. No more trust fund, problem solved.

God forbid we give seniors and the disabled some spending power.

 

[RKMBrown]

We should just get rid of the SS tax. It's so damn regressive.

I think we should just get a funding guarantee from Congress and make SS payments out of the general revenue. No more trust fund, problem solved.

God forbid we give seniors and the disabled some spending power.

Screw you parasite.

 

[Kimura]

We should just get rid of the SS tax. It's so damn regressive.

I think we should just get a funding guarantee from Congress and make SS payments out of the general revenue. No more trust fund, problem solved.

God forbid we give seniors and the disabled some spending power.

Screw you parasite.

So I'm a parasite for wanting to eliminate the SS tax?

 

[RKMBrown]

We should just get rid of the SS tax. It's so damn regressive.

I think we should just get a funding guarantee from Congress and make SS payments out of the general revenue. No more trust fund, problem solved.

God forbid we give seniors and the disabled some spending power.

Screw you parasite.

So I'm a parasite for wanting to eliminate the SS tax?

You are a parasite for wanting to convert the flat SS tax to a progressive income tax where only 49% of the country pays and the rest collect.

 

[Kimura]

Screw you parasite.

So I'm a parasite for wanting to eliminate the SS tax?

You are a parasite for wanting to convert the flat SS tax to a progressive income tax where only 49% of the country pays and the rest collect.

I want to eliminate the SS tax. SS payments would come out of the the general revenue. There's no need to increase taxes.

 

[RKMBrown]

Like I said you are a parasite.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So I'm a parasite for wanting to eliminate the SS tax?

You are a parasite for wanting to convert the flat SS tax to a progressive income tax where only 49% of the country pays and the rest collect.

I want to eliminate the SS tax. SS payments would come out of the the general revenue. There's no need to increase taxes.

Put the tax in a private account. No need to use general revenues.
The government will save trillions. Benefits will rise.
Win-win.

 

[Kimura]

Like I said you are a parasite.

You can lead a horse to water....

 

[Kimura]

You are a parasite for wanting to convert the flat SS tax to a progressive income tax where only 49% of the country pays and the rest collect.

I want to eliminate the SS tax. SS payments would come out of the the general revenue. There's no need to increase taxes.

Put the tax in a private account. No need to use general revenues.
The government will save trillions. Benefits will rise.
Win-win.

Privatizing SS would be another subsidy for Wall Street, which is why they would love to get their hands on it. It would a generate a about an additional 300 billion in fees and commissions for these guys. No thanks...

Also, even if some of these reactionary douche bags phased in privatization it wouldn't protect people from market downturns. The crash of 2008 would have robbed around 60% of retirement investors portfolios whether privatization was phased in switched over all at once.

SS is a great program and has kept many Americans out of abject poverty. We should increase benefit payments for retirees, not strip them of their economic rights through a disastrous privatization scheme.